Why is it okay...

[Vazdania]

its acknowledging the risk of becoming pregnant.

Acknowledging the risk =/= consent.

so jumping off a cliff, isn't consent to possibly dying then?

[Shambhala Sangha]

Actually, up until age 2-4 the limbic system is not yet fully developed. So by the time you reach adulthood you can't retrieve episodic memories before that time.

Wonderful, NSG supports infanticide too.

I'm gone, this place is...it's just...

Lol You asked the question and then have a bitch fit? Can I have your stuff?

[Chinese Regions]

Actually, up until age 2-4 the limbic system is not yet fully developed. So by the time you reach adulthood you can't retrieve episodic memories before that time.

Wonderful, NSG supports infanticide too.

I'm gone, this place is...it's just...

How is saying babies have no memories advocating infanticide?

[Baran-Duine]

who says it's not?
If the coma is deep enough it is essentially no different than being brain dead...

If you are referring to a person with some hope of survival then it is a human being with memories, a personality etc.
A fetus is just some human cells with the potential of becoming a human person.

Who says the fetus won't have fond memories? You're denying it that chance!

Because a foetus' brain isn't up to the task.

[The Truth and Light]

...And you still want to ban abortions?

they don't normally damage you. Of course you have to go through the entire birthing process, but that is how all people are made.

Pregnancy is a risk to the mother's life in all cases. it is also her decision whether to continue gestation that matters.

[Ceannairceach]

Acknowledging the risk =/= consent.

so jumping off a cliff, isn't consent to possibly dying then?

No, it isn't.

[Ashmoria]

So? An undeveloped foetus isn't a person.
It has no functioning brain - it cannot think. It's as much a person as an amputated limb.

Support my amputed legs right to marry.

lol

oh why did you have to type that? because of you right now some looney woman is marrying an amputated leg.

[Oneracon]

Actually, up until age 2-4 the limbic system is not yet fully developed. So by the time you reach adulthood you can't retrieve episodic memories before that time.

Wonderful, NSG supports infanticide too.

I'm gone, this place is...it's just...

Your logical fallacy is: "Strawman"

I would suggest carefully re-reading what I said, then considering what you said.

[Baran-Duine]

You shouldn't receive treatment for your crushed bones and internal organ ruptures, by your logic, then.

yes you should? just because you acknowledged the risk of something doesn't mean you shouldn't receive ad if you are damaged.

So now you are in favor of abortion being legal? Good.

[The Truth and Light]

Acknowledging the risk =/= consent.

so jumping off a cliff, isn't consent to possibly dying then?

Stop this ridiculous analogy.

They're are people that take birth control pills and use condoms, but still get pregnant anyways. They knew the risk, obviously, and did NOT consent to the pregnancy, obviously.

[Conscentia]

So? An undeveloped foetus isn't a person.
It has no functioning brain - it cannot think. It's as much a person as an amputated limb.

It will become a person, however.

Not if it's aborted.
Why should "could be persons in the future" be given the same rights as actual persons?

[Moriskov]

Support my amputed legs right to marry.

lol

oh why did you have to type that? because of you right now some looney woman is marrying an amputated leg.

THEN LET THEM BE WED! I SHALL LED THE SERMON!

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Actually, up until age 2-4 the limbic system is not yet fully developed. So by the time you reach adulthood you can't retrieve episodic memories before that time.

Wonderful, NSG supports infanticide too.

I'm gone, this place is...it's just...

Diverse of opinion. If that upsets you, perhaps this isn't the site for you.

[Oterro]

They take resources without consent. Thieves.

"not alive"

They spend time on people's property without consent. Trespassers.

"not alive"

They spend time inside a woman's uterus against her will. Rape.

"not alive"

It's not metaphorical, an unwanted foetus literally is a thief, a rapist and a trespasser.

except it isn't.

god damn it i'm actually supportive of the legalisation of abortion, you're just making pro choice people look like hyperbolic melodramatic twits.

no, no, to top it off you're essentially equating a reluctant or unwanted pregnancy to rape.

that is a Bad Thing that Bad People do.

[Individuality-ness]

So? An undeveloped foetus isn't a person.
It has no functioning brain - it cannot think. It's as much a person as an amputated limb.

It will become a person, however.

Not "will". Abortion. Stillbirth. Miscarriage.

[Souseiseki]

its acknowledging the risk of becoming pregnant.

Its just like jumping off a cliff, if you do so, you're acknowledging the risk of dying.

what if you get your tubes tied but something goes wrong and you think you 100% cannot get pregnant but you do anyway

will the mother then be forced to birth a child into what may or may not be a suitable enviroment

hey vazdania can you answer me this please

[Baran-Duine]

So? An undeveloped foetus isn't a person.
It has no functioning brain - it cannot think. It's as much a person as an amputated limb.

It will become a person, however.

It might become a person. Not "will", "might".

[Shambhala Sangha]

Support my amputed legs right to marry.

lol

oh why did you have to type that? because of you right now some looney woman is marrying an amputated leg.

I am pretty sure an amputated leg would want to marry another amputated leg. That woman just has a fetish for limb jobs . . . >.o

[Baran-Duine]

...And you still want to ban abortions?

they don't normally damage you. Of course you have to go through the entire birthing process, but that is how all people are made.

Every pregnancy damages the woman.

[Zottistan]

So? An undeveloped foetus isn't a person.
It has no functioning brain - it cannot think. It's as much a person as an amputated limb.

It will become a person, however.

And the mother is a person. So, you're basically saying that the rights of something that will become a person outweigh the rights of a person. Interesting.

[Seshephe]

who says it's not?
If the coma is deep enough it is essentially no different than being brain dead...

If you are referring to a person with some hope of survival then it is a human being with memories, a personality etc.
A fetus is just some human cells with the potential of becoming a human person.

Who says the fetus won't have fond memories? You're denying it that chance!

And this is relevant how?

[Baran-Duine]

Acknowledging the risk =/= consent.

so jumping off a cliff, isn't consent to possibly dying then?

No, it isn't.

[Conscentia]

It will become a person, however.

And the mother is a person. So, you're basically saying that the rights of something that will become a person outweigh the rights of a person. Interesting.

*Might become a person, not will become a person.

[Individuality-ness]

...And you still want to ban abortions?

they don't normally damage you. Of course you have to go through the entire birthing process, but that is how all people are made.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complications_of_pregnancy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternal_p ... _pregnancy

[Zottistan]

They take resources without consent. Thieves.

"not alive"

They spend time on people's property without consent. Trespassers.

"not alive"

They spend time inside a woman's uterus against her will. Rape.

"not alive"

It's not metaphorical, an unwanted foetus literally is a thief, a rapist and a trespasser.

except it isn't.

god damn it i'm actually supportive of the legalisation of abortion, you're just making pro choice people look like hyperbolic melodramatic twits.

no, no, to top it off you're essentially equating a reluctant or unwanted pregnancy to rape.

that is a Bad Thing that Bad People do.

Except it is alive. It's not human, but it's living. And if a dog bites you, you put it down.