Why is it okay...

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Consent can be revoked.

then it becomes rape.

ANd when a woman no longer consents to carrying a fetus, and you force her to carry it to term against her will, is that not rape?

[Vazdania]

its acknowledging the risk of doing so, yes.

Which means, according to your logic, that people who have been in car accidents should be denied appropriate medical treatment.

No. Even people who are emo cutters should still receive treatment for their injuries.

[Howdoyoudoland]

Why is the fetus in the woman's body? Did it steal its way in their with no action on her part?

Why it is there is not relevant. It is within person's body and that person has absolute bodily sovereignty

Wrong.

Also, why is it that the being's "lack of sapience and sentience" is ignored and another's isn't?

Because I am too lazy to argue about irrelevant stuff. It is bodily sovereignty that is at core of the argument.

Wrong.

[The Republic of Lanos]

then it becomes rape.

ANd when a woman no longer consents to carrying a fetus, and you force her to carry it to term against her will, is that not rape?

Doesn't forced abortion also count as rape by your definition?

[Camelza]

Oh god, not this "pro-life" shit again.
...a woman should be able to do whatever she wants with her body, so if ie: she doesn't feel comfortable giving birth to a baby because she had an accident, she must be given the right to kick that fetus' uncreated butt.

[Shambhala Sangha]

See, this why China us going surpass America

Yes, this is why China is going to surpass America.

Yes because Americans are uneducated about abortion.

[Vazdania]

then it becomes rape.

ANd when a woman no longer consents to carrying a fetus, and you force her to carry it to term against her will, is that not rape?

she consented to have sex and her decision should not affect the life of another.

No , rape is defined as sex which is not consented to.

[Oneracon]

a fetus isnt a person and a person in a coma is...a person.

They're both living beings, neither of them able to defend themselves, and neither of any particular "use" to the world in their states.

Until the unborn child exits the mother's body, it is not a human being.

[Great Nepal]

Why it is there is not relevant. It is within person's body and that person has absolute bodily sovereignty

Wrong.

Because I am too lazy to argue about irrelevant stuff. It is bodily sovereignty that is at core of the argument.

Wrong.

You are doubly wrong.
See I can play that too. Elaborate.

[Howdoyoudoland]

They're both living beings, neither of them able to defend themselves, and neither of any particular "use" to the world in their states.

Yes, but like we said, the person in a coma is a person, not the fetus.

They're both living creatures. That's all that matters.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

to kill an unborn fetus, and not a person in a coma?

a fetus isnt a person and a person in a coma is...a person.

It really doesn't matter if a fetus is a person or not. A woman is a person and if she wants it out, and it's reasonably safe to do so, it comes out. That's her right.

[Zottistan]

An unwanted one is.

More like someone you invited to live with you and then bailed on at the last moment, because you're a selfish and spoiled person.

And they're all parasites.

...Ugh...

You're seriously telling me I don't have the right to kick somebody out of my house? Or that if I tell a guy I want to stop having sex and he keeps going, it isn't rape? Or that if I say "you can have some food" and you take more than was agreed, it isn't theft?

As for "ugh", if you don't have anything to say, don't try to act like you do. A foetus is a parasite because it lives inside another living thing and feeds off that thing's resources. Parasite.

[The Truth and Light]

ANd when a woman no longer consents to carrying a fetus, and you force her to carry it to term against her will, is that not rape?

she consented to have sex and her decision should not affect the life of another.

No , rape is defined as sex which is not consented to.

Consent to sex is not now, nor has it ever been, consent to pregnancy.

[Great Nepal]

you take the risk. indeed.

So you are agree that next time your cross the road, I can run you over and you wont sue me or seek medical attention since you consented to get run over.

Vazdania, still waiting for if I have right to run you over when you next cross the road.

[Owl Cities]

Which means, according to your logic, that people who have been in car accidents should be denied appropriate medical treatment.

No. Even people who are emo cutters should still receive treatment for their injuries.

But they knew the risks of driving in a car! Shouldn't they be forced to bear the consequences of that?

[Howdoyoudoland]

They're both living beings, neither of them able to defend themselves, and neither of any particular "use" to the world in their states.

Until the unborn child exits the mother's body, it is not a human being.

It's a living being, isn't it?

[The Truth and Light]

Yes, but like we said, the person in a coma is a person, not the fetus.

They're both living creatures. That's all that matters.

No, it's not.

[Hilmerfalls]

Because people in comas aren't parasites, rapists, thieves or trespassers. Generally.

A fetus isn't any of these things.

Wrong. Fetuses are most certainly parasites, by nature. And if the sex involved in making it was not consensual, or was purely for please but birth control failed, then it IS trespassing in a sense.

[The Truth and Light]

Until the unborn child exits the mother's body, it is not a human being.

It's a living being, isn't it?

Cancer is alive.

[Ashmoria]

Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy.

yes it is.

*shrug*
it is an acknowledged risk of heterosexual sex.

getting pregnant does mean that you have to stay pregnant. a woman should have control of her own life and her own fate.

[Baran-Duine]

Because that's how human reproduction works.

...Ugh...
Go ahead, be obtuse, you can't defend your beliefs anyway.

I'm answering the questions you are asking. If you mean to be asking something else, maybe there's a problem with your wording.
And actually yes, I can. Quite easily.
Abortion should be legal in all cases because no-one has the right to use another person's body against their will.

[Ceannairceach]

ANd when a woman no longer consents to carrying a fetus, and you force her to carry it to term against her will, is that not rape?

she consented to have sex and her decision should not affect the life of another.

No , rape is defined as sex which is not consented to.

So if she consented to sex but doesn't want to do it up the bum, she can't revoke consent because she previously said yes?

No. That isn't how consent works.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

ANd when a woman no longer consents to carrying a fetus, and you force her to carry it to term against her will, is that not rape?

she consented to have sex and her decision should not affect the life of another.

No , rape is defined as sex which is not consented to.

Not necessarily. It's an unconsentual act of penetration. Or more specifically, it's a violent act of domination and control.

[Zottistan]

Yes, but like we said, the person in a coma is a person, not the fetus.

They're both living creatures. That's all that matters.

Oh, god, guys, we shouldn't walk. Or move. Or breath. We'd be killing living bacteria.

[Souseiseki]

More like someone you invited to live with you and then bailed on at the last moment, because you're a selfish and spoiled person.



...Ugh...

You're seriously telling me I don't have the right to kick somebody out of my house? Or that if I tell a guy I want to stop having sex and he keeps going, it isn't rape? Or that if I say "you can have some food" and you take more than was agreed, it isn't theft?

As for "ugh", if you don't have anything to say, don't try to act like you do. A foetus is a parasite because it lives inside another living thing and feeds off that thing's resources. Parasite.

if you let them into your house and then they say "lol deal with it" and stay for 9 months and take over your fridge you basically need to deal with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXp3vcayoA0