
by Howdoyoudoland » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:51 am
by Souseiseki » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:53 am

by Ceannairceach » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:54 am
by Zottistan » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:54 am

by Howdoyoudoland » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:55 am
Souseiseki wrote:there are many situations in which it is acceptable and has been carried out where a person in a coma has been killed
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by Souseiseki » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:55 am
Zottistan wrote:Because people in comas aren't parasites, rapists, thieves or trespassers. Generally.

by Howdoyoudoland » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:55 am
Ceannairceach wrote:Because a person in a coma often has left a will or has otherwise stated an intent to live. A fetus cannot, by definition, state it's intent to live as it is not sentient or sapient.

by Howdoyoudoland » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:56 am
Zottistan wrote:Because people in comas aren't parasites, rapists, thieves or trespassers. Generally.

by Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:56 am
Howdoyoudoland wrote:to kill an unborn fetus, and not a person in a coma?

by Souseiseki » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:56 am
Howdoyoudoland wrote:Souseiseki wrote:there are many situations in which it is acceptable and has been carried out where a person in a coma has been killed
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Not really, not in the same sense.
Kill an unborn baby? Everyone's fine with that.
Kill someone in a coma? People hold candlelight vigils outside your hospital room.

by Ceannairceach » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:57 am

by Howdoyoudoland » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:57 am

by Howdoyoudoland » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:58 am
Ceannairceach wrote:Howdoyoudoland wrote:
So kill it because it has no voice? Wonderful...
No, we remove it from the womb because it is a burden upon the mother. It's death is a side effect of the abortion process, nothing more.
The death does not matter because they are not capable of considering the idea of living, let alone voicing it.

by Howdoyoudoland » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:59 am

by Wind in the Willows » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:59 am
Zottistan wrote:Because people in comas aren't parasites, rapists, thieves or trespassers. Generally.

by Vazdania » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:59 am

by Ceannairceach » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:59 am
Howdoyoudoland wrote:Ceannairceach wrote:No, we remove it from the womb because it is a burden upon the mother. It's death is a side effect of the abortion process, nothing more.
The death does not matter because they are not capable of considering the idea of living, let alone voicing it.
A burden she brought in, that now has a life. Why shouldn't we let it live?

by EnragedMaldivians » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:00 pm
Howdoyoudoland wrote:Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Why would it be okay in your opinion to force a woman to carry an unwanted fetus to term and not okay to force people to donate organs or give blood?
Who says it isn't okay to force people to do those things...
In any case, it's not as if the fetus got their own his own. You know, snuck a teeny, tiny jet plane into her vagina or something.

by Ceannairceach » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:00 pm

by Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:00 pm
Howdoyoudoland wrote:Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Why would it be okay in your opinion to force a woman to carry an unwanted fetus to term and not okay to force people to donate organs or give blood?
Who says it isn't okay to force people to do those things...
In any case, it's not as if the fetus got their own his own. You know, snuck a teeny, tiny jet plane into her vagina or something.

by Divair » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:00 pm
Howdoyoudoland wrote:Sure, I want to display what an outrageous person you are.

by Howdoyoudoland » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:00 pm
Ceannairceach wrote:Howdoyoudoland wrote:
A burden she brought in, that now has a life. Why shouldn't we let it live?
She didn't "bring it in". She, most of the time, excluding cases of rape, allowed a penis to enter her vagina in an act of sexual pleasure. Consenting to sex does not equate to consenting to pregnancy.
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