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What should the government do?

Mandatory Tolerance Classes For Everyone
53
17%
Let them have Muslim Areas
23
8%
Kick all the radical Muslims out of Europe
174
57%
SET FIRE TO THE OLD WORLD AND WATCH IT BURN!
55
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Total votes : 305

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:56 pm

North Stradia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Are you home schooled?

No.

You do realize that following people across multiple threads to pester them does meet this forum's definition of harassment.


Only if that was the case. I was in this thread before you.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:56 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Do you even know what he was talking about when he said that?

Muslims, probably.

Mahometans, actually. Doctor Franklin could become quite indignant about the inroads the Mahometans were making in Western society, how they were trying to enforce Sharia law, and carrying out attacks in New-York and some man named Saddam Hussein, though I have to admit, once I asked him what the devil he was going on about he stared at me and said, "What? I beg your pardon, Lady Farn, I seem to have dozed off? Was I talking in my sleep?"
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Postby Sulamalik » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:58 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
North Stradia wrote:It's cute when you act like Muslim extremists aren't real Muslims.


IF they violate the teachings, are they?


Ehh, I'm always hesitant when trying to define what it means to be a Muslim. After all, if we say that extremists Muslims aren't truly Muslims because they don't follow the correct interpretation of the Qur'an, what hope is there for gay Muslims who are suffering due to that same argument?
Freiheit Reich wrote:"Economically disadvantaged and angry urban youth music."
Is that a nicer and more modern term to use?

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Postby The Truth and Light » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:59 pm

If you identify as a Muslim, you're a Muslim. Simples.

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Postby Sulamalik » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:59 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:If you identify as a Muslim, you're a Muslim. Simples.


Is the NOI Muslim? What about the 5 %ers ?
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Freiheit Reich wrote:"Economically disadvantaged and angry urban youth music."
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Postby The Truth and Light » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:01 pm

Sulamalik wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:If you identify as a Muslim, you're a Muslim. Simples.


Is the NOI Muslims?

Ask a person from that organization what they are. If they say "Muslim"... they're probably identifying as Muslim, and thus probably Muslim.

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Postby Khodoristan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:01 pm

Sulamalik wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:If you identify as a Muslim, you're a Muslim. Simples.


Is the NOI Muslim? What about the 5 %ers ?


...yes. But only barely.
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Postby North Stradia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:01 pm

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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:02 pm

Sulamalik wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:If you identify as a Muslim, you're a Muslim. Simples.


Is the NOI Muslim? What about the 5 %ers ?


5 percenters?
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Postby Khodoristan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:02 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Sulamalik wrote:
Is the NOI Muslim? What about the 5 %ers ?


5 percenters?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_percenter
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:03 pm

Sulamalik wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
IF they violate the teachings, are they?


Ehh, I'm always hesitant when trying to define what it means to be a Muslim. After all, if we say that extremists Muslims aren't truly Muslims because they don't follow the correct interpretation of the Qur'an, what hope is there for gay Muslims who are suffering due to that same argument?


:) Awww. I wanted to see what he would say.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:03 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Sulamalik wrote:
Is the NOI Muslims?

Ask a person from that organization what they are. If they say "Muslim"... they're probably identifying as Muslim, and thus probably Muslim.


And with that brilliant logic, the People's Democratic Republic of Korea really is a democratic republic.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:05 pm

Gauthier wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Ask a person from that organization what they are. If they say "Muslim"... they're probably identifying as Muslim, and thus probably Muslim.


And with that brilliant logic, the People's Democratic Republic of Korea really is a democratic republic.

Not really, but North Koreans really are North Koreans.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:05 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Sulamalik wrote:
Ehh, I'm always hesitant when trying to define what it means to be a Muslim. After all, if we say that extremists Muslims aren't truly Muslims because they don't follow the correct interpretation of the Qur'an, what hope is there for gay Muslims who are suffering due to that same argument?


:) Awww. I wanted to see what he would say.


Hey, if we have gay Christians who don't seem to have gotten the memo on Leviticus, why can't we have gay Muslims?
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:07 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
And with that brilliant logic, the People's Democratic Republic of Korea really is a democratic republic.

Not really, but North Koreans really are North Koreans.


I'm sorry but that goalpost won't budge. If you insist anyone who call themselves Muslim are genuinely Muslim, then you must accept that North Korea is a democratic republic because it calls itself one.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby The Truth and Light » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:09 pm

Gauthier wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Not really, but North Koreans really are North Koreans.


I'm sorry but that goalpost won't budge. If you insist anyone who call themselves Muslim are genuinely Muslim, then you must accept that North Korea is a democratic republic because it calls itself one.

Alright. How do you determine someone is a Muslim?

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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:10 pm

The NOI I am very hesitant to call Muslims. I mean from how I was raise Alawitism is too far removed from 'orthodox' Islam for its adherents to be called Muslims but whatever, I won't quibble with them over it, even if they believe in the divinity of Ali and such. I'll concede that they are Muslims.

The Nation of Islam however was founded by a guy in the 60s (Elijah Muhammad) who actually claimed to have met Allah in Harlem; and mostly he was, aside from being really really weird, trying to make a statement that black folks shouldn't belong to a white religion like Christianity.

Its followers weren't exactly practitioners of Islam. Malcolm X didn't even know how to pray and hadn't even bothered learning how to pray before he went on the pilgrimage.
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Postby Shambhala Sangha » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:10 pm

Sulamalik wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:If you identify as a Muslim, you're a Muslim. Simples.


Is the NOI Muslim? What about the 5 %ers ?


I talked to god and it turns out the taquacore Muslims had it right. I know, I am just surprised as everyone else.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:12 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:The NOI I am very hesitant to call Muslims. I mean from how I was raise Alawitism is too far removed from 'orthodox' Islam for its adherents to be called Muslims but I won't quibble with them over it, even if they believe in the divinity of Ali and such.

The Nation of Islam however was founded by a guy in the 60s (Elijah Muhammad) who actually claimed to have met Allah in Harlem; and mostly he was, aside from being really really weird, trying to make a statement that black folks shouldn't belong to a white religion like Christianity.

Its followers weren't exactly practitioners of Islam. Malcolm X didn't even know how to pray and hadn't even bothered learning how to pray before he went on the pilgrimage.


NoI is to Islam as Mormonism is to Christianity.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Shambhala Sangha » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:13 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:The NOI I am very hesitant to call Muslims. I mean from how I was raise Alawitism is too far removed from 'orthodox' Islam for its adherents to be called Muslims but I won't quibble with them over it, even if they believe in the divinity of Ali and such.

The Nation of Islam however was founded by a guy in the 60s (Elijah Muhammad) who actually claimed to have met Allah in Harlem; and mostly he was, aside from being really really weird, trying to make a statement that black folks shouldn't belong to a white religion like Christianity.

Its followers weren't exactly practitioners of Islam. Malcolm X didn't even know how to pray and hadn't even bothered learning how to pray before he went on the pilgrimage.


Allah reincarnated as Fard Muhammad who worked in a coat factory. That's right, Allah worked in a coat factory? All knowing and all powerful beings love coats

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:13 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
And with that brilliant logic, the People's Democratic Republic of Korea really is a democratic republic.

Not really, but North Koreans really are North Koreans.


What about Christians in Uganda? Are they really Christian?
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Sulamalik » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:13 pm

Shambhala Sangha wrote:
Sulamalik wrote:
Is the NOI Muslim? What about the 5 %ers ?


I talked to god and it turns out the taquacore Muslims had it right. I know, I am just surprised as everyone else.


Fuck me, I thought I was the only person on NSG to know about Taqwacore.
Freiheit Reich wrote:"Economically disadvantaged and angry urban youth music."
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Postby Khodoristan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:15 pm

Sulamalik wrote:
Shambhala Sangha wrote:
I talked to god and it turns out the taquacore Muslims had it right. I know, I am just surprised as everyone else.


Fuck me, I thought I was the only person on NSG to know about Taqwacore.


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Postby Scholencia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:15 pm

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Great Islamic Empire wrote:
Contradiction: claiming in their Constitutions to respect all the professions of faith and refusing to let muslims to apply the Sharia, which is a fundamental principle of the islamic religion.


Boo hoo. Secular law trumps religious law. End of story. Convince us otherwise.

Muslims should have sharia law in some areas of europe as part of their human rights. If they want to have sharia that they should have it.

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Postby Khodoristan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:18 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Boo hoo. Secular law trumps religious law. End of story. Convince us otherwise.

Muslims should have sharia law in some areas of europe as part of their human rights. If they want to have sharia that they should have it.


No. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONONONONONONO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ
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REST IN PEACE UNDERØATH 11/30/97-1/26/13
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