Only if that was the case. I was in this thread before you.
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by The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:56 pm

by Farnhamia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:56 pm

by Sulamalik » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:58 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:"Economically disadvantaged and angry urban youth music."
Is that a nicer and more modern term to use?

by The Truth and Light » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:59 pm

by Sulamalik » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:59 pm
The Truth and Light wrote:If you identify as a Muslim, you're a Muslim. Simples.
Freiheit Reich wrote:"Economically disadvantaged and angry urban youth music."
Is that a nicer and more modern term to use?

by The Truth and Light » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:01 pm

by Khodoristan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:01 pm

by North Stradia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:01 pm


by Khodoristan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:02 pm

by The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:03 pm
Sulamalik wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
IF they violate the teachings, are they?
Ehh, I'm always hesitant when trying to define what it means to be a Muslim. After all, if we say that extremists Muslims aren't truly Muslims because they don't follow the correct interpretation of the Qur'an, what hope is there for gay Muslims who are suffering due to that same argument?
Awww. I wanted to see what he would say.
by Gauthier » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:03 pm

by The Truth and Light » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:05 pm

by Gauthier » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:05 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Sulamalik wrote:
Ehh, I'm always hesitant when trying to define what it means to be a Muslim. After all, if we say that extremists Muslims aren't truly Muslims because they don't follow the correct interpretation of the Qur'an, what hope is there for gay Muslims who are suffering due to that same argument?Awww. I wanted to see what he would say.

by Gauthier » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:07 pm

by The Truth and Light » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:09 pm

by EnragedMaldivians » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:10 pm

by Shambhala Sangha » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:10 pm

by Gauthier » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:12 pm
EnragedMaldivians wrote:The NOI I am very hesitant to call Muslims. I mean from how I was raise Alawitism is too far removed from 'orthodox' Islam for its adherents to be called Muslims but I won't quibble with them over it, even if they believe in the divinity of Ali and such.
The Nation of Islam however was founded by a guy in the 60s (Elijah Muhammad) who actually claimed to have met Allah in Harlem; and mostly he was, aside from being really really weird, trying to make a statement that black folks shouldn't belong to a white religion like Christianity.
Its followers weren't exactly practitioners of Islam. Malcolm X didn't even know how to pray and hadn't even bothered learning how to pray before he went on the pilgrimage.

by Shambhala Sangha » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:13 pm
EnragedMaldivians wrote:The NOI I am very hesitant to call Muslims. I mean from how I was raise Alawitism is too far removed from 'orthodox' Islam for its adherents to be called Muslims but I won't quibble with them over it, even if they believe in the divinity of Ali and such.
The Nation of Islam however was founded by a guy in the 60s (Elijah Muhammad) who actually claimed to have met Allah in Harlem; and mostly he was, aside from being really really weird, trying to make a statement that black folks shouldn't belong to a white religion like Christianity.
Its followers weren't exactly practitioners of Islam. Malcolm X didn't even know how to pray and hadn't even bothered learning how to pray before he went on the pilgrimage.

by The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:13 pm

by Khodoristan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:15 pm

by Scholencia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:15 pm
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Great Islamic Empire wrote:
Contradiction: claiming in their Constitutions to respect all the professions of faith and refusing to let muslims to apply the Sharia, which is a fundamental principle of the islamic religion.
Boo hoo. Secular law trumps religious law. End of story. Convince us otherwise.

by Khodoristan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:18 pm
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