should abortion be legal?

[Mavorpen]

Why are you so pro-cancer and pro-infectious disease?

Why are you so pro-murdering unborn babies?

It isn't murder.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Why are you so pro-cancer and pro-infectious disease?

Why are you so pro-murdering unborn babies?

Mother's rights come first.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Why are you so pro-murdering unborn babies?

Mother's rights come first.

Zygotes have rights?

[Zottistan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child

"Biologically, a child (plural: children) is generally a human between the stages of birth and puberty."

Don't lie.

I don't even know what to say. How can you really believe that it is okay to end something's life? And that's what abortion is.

i) not killing it, allowing it to die. There's a difference.
ii) what gives a foetus a right to use a woman's body against her will?
iii) it is indeed ending something's life. A parasite's life. You wouldn't expect me to let tapeworms fester inside me, would you?

[Ifreann]

Mother's rights come first.

Zygotes have rights?

More than other humans.

[Divair]

Mother's rights come first.

Zygotes have rights?

Some people think so.

[Moon Cows]

I don't even know what to say. How can you really believe that it is okay to end something's life? And that's what abortion is.

The same reason I can justify the killing of animals:

Humans that are alive come first.

Are you a sociopath?

Since NSers love their "source"-esque comments when they can't think of a rebuttal . . .

Here and here. Want more and its just a google away. .

And frequent church goers are more happy, thus Christianity is right.

Or we can realize that correlation does not equal causation, but that'd require thinking, and that's hard.

Did I say that? I just said conservatives tend to be happier than liberals.

Oh, look, you're insulting my intelligence. Whatever shall I do now?

[Divair]

Are you a sociopath?

Quite the opposite. I'm very empathetic. I'm involved in many charity programs, most notably involving micro-loans to entrepreneurs in developing countries, collections for orphanages in Ukraine, and fundraising for clean water projects in Africa.

But please, do tell me about how I am a sociopath.

Did I say that? I just said conservatives tend to be happier than liberals.

Oh, look, you're insulting my intelligence. Whatever shall I do now?

The irony.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Mother's rights come first.

Zygotes have rights?

No, and neither do blastocysts, embryos or foetuses.

[Sophian]

Well that's your opinion. Some people think killing babies is cool, some people don't.

It's a good thing it isn't a baby.

Here is a picture of a baby born prematurely, 23 weeks into a pregnancy.


In California, and states where 2nd trimester abortion is legal, you can get an abortion 23 weeks into your pregnancy.


Comprehending the moral objection to 2nd trimester abortion shouldn't be that difficult if one considers homicide morally objectionable.

[Mavorpen]

The same reason I can justify the killing of animals:

Humans that are alive come first.

Are you a sociopath?

While animal abuse can hint at sociopath, putting a mother above a clump of cells that have no self awareness is far from it.

[Moon Cows]

I don't even know what to say. How can you really believe that it is okay to end something's life? And that's what abortion is.

i) not killing it, allowing it to die. There's a difference.
ii) what gives a foetus a right to use a woman's body against her will?
iii) it is indeed ending something's life. A parasite's life. You wouldn't expect me to let tapeworms fester inside me, would you?

i) yeah, that's killing it.
ii) the fact that she (in most cases) willingly had sex and needs to accept what she did? The fetus didn't just come out of nowhere.
iii) not a parasite it is a human being. You were once a fetus.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

The same reason I can justify the killing of animals:

Humans that are alive come first.

Are you a sociopath?

Care to tell us all why concern for the rights of humans that have rights is akin (see what I did there?) to sociopathy?

[Zottistan]

The same reason I can justify the killing of animals:

Humans that are alive come first.

Are you a sociopath?

Stop beating around the bush. Give an argument.

[Divair]

Are you a sociopath?

While animal abuse can hint at sociopath, putting a mother above a clump of cells that have no self awareness is far from it.

Not animal abuse, I was actually referencing hunting.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Zygotes have rights?

More than other humans.

I'm almost positive that's not correct. Almost. Something about my mother telling me that Catholics were, and this is a quote, "Fucking lunatics who only want to force women to have babies for them to molest", when I asked why we moved from Cork.

[Mavorpen]

It's a good thing it isn't a baby.

Here is a picture of a baby born prematurely, 23 weeks into a pregnancy.


In California, and states where 2nd trimester abortion is legal, you can get an abortion 23 weeks into your pregnancy.


Comprehending the moral objection to 2nd trimester abortion shouldn't be that difficult if one considers homicide morally objectionable.

And it still isn't a baby. Nice try with the straw man.

[Mavorpen]

While animal abuse can hint at sociopath, putting a mother above a clump of cells that have no self awareness is far from it.

Not animal abuse, I was actually referencing hunting.

I didn't say you were referencing animal abuse.

[Divair]

Not animal abuse, I was actually referencing hunting.

I didn't say you were referencing animal abuse.

Fair enough.

[Terraius]

1. CALLED IT! We were TOTALLY overdue for an abortion thread.

The other one was almost at page 5, god forbid.

[United Koryo]

Legal, only in instances of rape.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

I don't even know what to say. How can you really believe that it is okay to end something's life? And that's what abortion is.

The same reason I can justify the killing of animals:

Humans that are alive come first.

Since NSers love their "source"-esque comments when they can't think of a rebuttal . . .

Here and here. Want more and its just a google away. .

And frequent church goers are more happy, thus Christianity is right.

Or we can realize that correlation does not equal causation, but that'd require thinking, and that's hard.

Well, no, it's quite reasonable.

After all, like I said, conservatives are particularly adept at ignoring or denying things that contradict or undermine their own worldview. They've convinced themselves that their side is unambiguously Right And Good, and that whenever someone else is in an unfortunate position it's Their Own Damn Fault And Who Am I To Interfere With Cosmic Justice Even If I Could.

If I could live insulated from reality, in a fantasy-world of my own making, where I and my "tribe" can do no wrong, I'd be quite happy too. It'd be much easier, and require much less work than dealing with the world as it is.

Regrettably, however, I'm sane.

[Farnhamia]

Legal, only in instances of rape.

Indeed? Why is it your business what I do with my body?

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Legal, only in instances of rape.

What makes a foetus conceived through rape less valuable than a foetus conceived naturally, in your eyes?

Just trying to see how an anti-abortion mind ticks.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Legal, only in instances of rape.

Indeed? Why is it your business what I do with my body?

It's my business what I'd do with your body. Or summat.