should abortion be legal?

[Nua Corda]

Please stop saying that. It seems to be your only argument. "You're lying." what? Really? come on.

That's all Mavorpen ever does. He's the guy who shouts "Your Ideas are Bullshit" or "God is not real" or anything else that contradicts anything anyone else believes, which forces me to think he's a big-government loving anti-free speech hypocrite.

He's posted on about 7-8 of these threads I post on, usually saying my ideas are wrong.

That's... probably because they usually are.

[Neutraligon]

Please stop saying that. It seems to be your only argument. "You're lying." what? Really? come on.

That's all Mavorpen ever does. He's the guy who shouts "Your Ideas are Bullshit" or "God is not real" or anything else that contradicts anything anyone else believes, which forces me to think he's a big-government loving anti-free speech hypocrite.

He's posted on about 7-8 of these threads I post on, usually saying my ideas are wrong.

Don't like it report him and put him on ignore. It was bad enough trying to get back on topic before.



Are there cases in which an abortion is more dangerous to the mother than maintaining the pregnancy?

[Mavorpen]

That's all Mavorpen ever does. He's the guy who shouts "Your Ideas are Bullshit" or "God is not real" or anything else that contradicts anything anyone else believes, which forces me to think he's a big-government loving anti-free speech hypocrite.

He's posted on about 7-8 of these threads I post on, usually saying my ideas are wrong.

Never have I uttered the phrase, "your ideas are bullshit" or seriously stated, "God is not real."

Also, I have no clue who you are. But if you could actually discuss, which is what this forum is for, that'd be nice.

[United Marxist Nations]

Granted, certainly, but it's still a bit tactless and there are other analogies available.

Sure. And you're right to call Godwin, because the Nazis are an extreme comparison.

I just like expounding.

You're right, I did use a harsh comparison; perhaps I should have used a less extreme comparison or just left it at "suggests prejudice".

[The Emerald Dawn]

That's all Mavorpen ever does. He's the guy who shouts "Your Ideas are Bullshit" or "God is not real" or anything else that contradicts anything anyone else believes, which forces me to think he's a big-government loving anti-free speech hypocrite.

He's posted on about 7-8 of these threads I post on, usually saying my ideas are wrong.

Don't like it report him and put him on ignore. It was bad enough trying to get back on topic before.

Threads in NSG don't have topics, they have a Center of Mass around which all the discussions follow various orbits. Granted, some orbits are a little more eccentric than others, but they still orbit.

[Abatael]

Imperium means complete control. So, people need complete control over their body, like so they can do whatever they want to it. (Id est,g et an abortion, suicide, tattoo, whatever clothes they want to wear.)

Abortion, no.
Suicide, depends.
Clothes, whatever.

Why not? It's the woman's body, so she should be able to do what she wants with it. You don't know what it's like, so you can't legislate this in a reasonable and informed manner.

[The Truth and Light]

That's all Mavorpen ever does. He's the guy who shouts "Your Ideas are Bullshit" or "God is not real" or anything else that contradicts anything anyone else believes, which forces me to think he's a big-government loving anti-free speech hypocrite.

He's posted on about 7-8 of these threads I post on, usually saying my ideas are wrong.

Never have I uttered the phrase, "your ideas are bullshit" or seriously stated, "God is not real."

Also, I have no clue who you are. But if you could actually discuss, which is what this forum is for, that'd be nice.

You do post one liners. I think people just expect everybody to be warm and fuzzy to them, and to come from a place of understanding to their closely held beliefs... but of course, they can get the fuck over it. I love your posts, they're real.

[Nua Corda]

Sure. And you're right to call Godwin, because the Nazis are an extreme comparison.

I just like expounding.

You're right, I did use a harsh comparison; perhaps I should have used a less extreme comparison or just left it at "suggests prejudice".

Just plain Racism would probably work best.

[Illte]

How is atheism a religion, Deolater? Atheism does not posit the existance of supernatural beings and then attempt to force people to obey their "will", which is usually made up by the positer for their own selfish reasons.

Deolater? I'll come back to that later. Not knowing what the word mean at the moment doesn't make me take it as an insult just yet, even though it obviously is suppose to be that.

There are in fact several atheistic religions in the world. Rejection of an almighty god, gods, or a creator of the universe doesn't free atheists of beliefs. And seeing the religious intolerance that's always shown by human ethic antitheist, or as they call themselves, atheists, they are truly a religion. True atheists aren't hellbent on forcing other people into believing as they does.

I'm not sure if deolater actually applies to me, though. I do not actually believe in an almighty god.

[Mavorpen]

Never have I uttered the phrase, "your ideas are bullshit" or seriously stated, "God is not real."

Also, I have no clue who you are. But if you could actually discuss, which is what this forum is for, that'd be nice.

You do post one liners. I think people just expect everybody to be warm and fuzzy to them, and to come from a place of understand to their closely held beliefs... but of course, they can get the fuck over it. I love your posts, they're real.

One liners are 99% of the time due to me using my cell phone.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Never have I uttered the phrase, "your ideas are bullshit" or seriously stated, "God is not real."

Also, I have no clue who you are. But if you could actually discuss, which is what this forum is for, that'd be nice.

You do post one liners. I think people just expect everybody to be warm and fuzzy to them, and to come from a place of understand to their closely held beliefs... but of course, they can get the fuck over it. I love your posts, they're real.

Whereas mine are all unable to be plotted to an ordered line.

[The Truth and Light]

You do post one liners. I think people just expect everybody to be warm and fuzzy to them, and to come from a place of understand to their closely held beliefs... but of course, they can get the fuck over it. I love your posts, they're real.

One liners are 99% of the time due to me using my cell phone.

Hey man, they work better than walls of text.

You do post one liners. I think people just expect everybody to be warm and fuzzy to them, and to come from a place of understand to their closely held beliefs... but of course, they can get the fuck over it. I love your posts, they're real.

Whereas mine are all unable to be plotted to an ordered line.

More like a parabola.

[Nua Corda]

How is atheism a religion, Deolater? Atheism does not posit the existance of supernatural beings and then attempt to force people to obey their "will", which is usually made up by the positer for their own selfish reasons.

Deolater? I'll come back to that later. Not knowing what the word mean at the moment doesn't make me take it as an insult just yet, even though it obviously is suppose to be that.

There are in fact several atheistic religions in the world. Rejection of an almighty god, gods, or a creator of the universe doesn't free atheists of beliefs. And seeing the religious intolerance that's always shown by human ethic antitheist, or as they call themselves, atheists, they are truly a religion. True atheists aren't hellbent on forcing other people into believing as they does.

I'm not sure if deolater actually applies to me, though. I do not actually believe in an almighty god.

Deolater is a word from a book by popular speculative fiction author Neal Stephenson, taking place in an alternate universe in which people who believe in god are the minority. It literally means "someone who believes in god"

Belief =/= religion. Did you just equate intolerance with religion?

[Individuality-ness]

Whereas mine are all unable to be plotted to an ordered line.

More like a parabola.

I claim a scatterplot in which r = 0!

[The Emerald Dawn]

One liners are 99% of the time due to me using my cell phone.

Hey man, they work better than walls of text.

Whereas mine are all unable to be plotted to an ordered line.

More like a parabola.

Quite true. We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment, we are choosing to be here, right now.

[Individuality-ness]

Deolater? I'll come back to that later. Not knowing what the word mean at the moment doesn't make me take it as an insult just yet, even though it obviously is suppose to be that.

There are in fact several atheistic religions in the world. Rejection of an almighty god, gods, or a creator of the universe doesn't free atheists of beliefs. And seeing the religious intolerance that's always shown by human ethic antitheist, or as they call themselves, atheists, they are truly a religion. True atheists aren't hellbent on forcing other people into believing as they does.

I'm not sure if deolater actually applies to me, though. I do not actually believe in an almighty god.

Deolater is a word from a book by popular speculative fiction author Neal Stephenson, taking place in an alternate universe in which people who believe in god are the minority. It literally means "someone who believes in god"

Belief =/= religion. Did you just equate intolerance with religion?

Have you ever read his book Unwind? It's a story about what happens after the pro-and-anti-abortion groups "compromise".

[The Truth and Light]

Hey man, they work better than walls of text.


More like a parabola.

Quite true. We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment, we are choosing to be here, right now.

That was so deep and meaningless, I loved it.

[The Truth and Light]

More like a parabola.

I claim a scatterplot in which r = 0!

Over my head that went.

[Mavorpen]

Quite true. We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment, we are choosing to be here, right now.

That was so deep and meaningless, I loved it.

Use protection. Abortions are bad mm'kay.

[Neutraligon]

So besides I want to force my beliefs on others part, no one has a reason why abortion should be illegal.
OK for those who believe it should be illegal, how would you deal with that fact that women would attempt to get abortions anyway, just the poor ones would have to do it in a much more dangerous fashion.

[The Emerald Dawn]

That was so deep and meaningless, I loved it.

Use protection. Abortions are bad mm'kay.

You leave your irrelephant personal philomons at the door, you word that I can't think of because migraine!

[Individuality-ness]

I claim a scatterplot in which r = 0!

Over my head that went.

You will enjoy statistics Truthy. *nod*

[Abatael]

Use protection. Abortions are bad mm'kay.

You leave your irrelephant personal philomons at the door, you word that I can't think of because migraine!

Philemon?

[Nua Corda]

Deolater is a word from a book by popular speculative fiction author Neal Stephenson, taking place in an alternate universe in which people who believe in god are the minority. It literally means "someone who believes in god"

Belief =/= religion. Did you just equate intolerance with religion?

Have you ever read his book Unwind? It's a story about what happens after the pro-and-anti-abortion groups "compromise".

You're thinking of Neal Shusterman. Neal Stephenson is the guy behind Snow Crash and the Baroque Cycle.
Anthem, the book I'm referencing, is actually quite fascinating; it depicts a world in which science took the place of religion, scientists live in covenants and monasteries, dress and act like monks, and shut themselves away from the world for years, decades or even centuries to study in seclusion.

[Illte]

Actually, Atheist, that doesn't prove anything other than we are in fact talking about humans. You have still to prove that the limits for abortion aren't set arbitrary.

Did you even read it? That is a study stating that fetus has a higher chance of survival at 24 weeks. That's vitality.

So, what? Vitality has nothing to do with any limitations on abortion. Just because the fetus has a higher chance at surviving outside the uterus doesn't mean that it shouldn't be legal to abort/kill the baby.