should abortion be legal?

[Ostroeuropa]

Nevermind.
Anyway, abortion guys?

Abortion should be legal. *nod*

Glad that's sorted then. I'll call the president.

[Nua Corda]

It absolutely should be. People need imperium over their body to do whatsoever they want to it.

I'm pretty sure that statement contradicts itself.

[United Marxist Nations]

ENOUGH!!! This isn't a thread about atheism. Want a thread about Atheism go make one. This is supposed to be about abortion.

Why would we make a new one? There are hundreds.

[Abatael]

It absolutely should be. People need imperium over their body to do whatsoever they want to it.

I'm pretty sure that statement contradicts itself.

How so?

[Dyakovo]

Nevermind.
Anyway, abortion guys?

No, thanks... Don't need one at the moment...

[San Leggera]

Nevermind.
Anyway, abortion guys?

Should not be attempted on males.
(I know there's a better way to word this but dammit fatigue is mentally draining)

[Neutraligon]

Nevermind.
Anyway, abortion guys?

Should not be attempted on males.
(I know there's a better way to word this but dammit fatigue is mentally draining)

What about the guy who actually became pregnant? What if he needed an abortion?

[Ostroeuropa]

Nevermind.
Anyway, abortion guys?

Should not be attempted on males.
(I know there's a better way to word this but dammit fatigue is mentally draining)

Clearly you havn't seen prometheus

[Dyakovo]

It absolutely should be. People need imperium over their body to do whatsoever they want to it.

I'm pretty sure that statement contradicts itself.

I'm not... I just have no clue what he's trying to say...

[Nua Corda]

I'm pretty sure that statement contradicts itself.

How so?

Whoops, I think I may have mistaken "abortion absolutely should be legal" for "abortion absolutely should be banned". I tend to associate known extreme conservatives with Anti-Choice. My mistake.

[Individuality-ness]

Should not be attempted on males.
(I know there's a better way to word this but dammit fatigue is mentally draining)

What about the guy who actually became pregnant? What if he needed an abortion?

Wasn't he a trans female-to-male who chose to keep his reproductive organs?

[Abatael]

I'm pretty sure that statement contradicts itself.

I'm not... I just have no clue what he's trying to say...

Imperium means complete control. So, people need complete control over their body, like so they can do whatever they want to it. (Id est,g et an abortion, suicide, tattoo, whatever clothes they want to wear.)

[Neutraligon]

What about the guy who actually became pregnant? What if he needed an abortion?

Wasn't he a trans female-to-male who chose to keep his reproductive organs?

Yep, but he's still a guy. He should be allowed to have an abortion, right?

[Ostroeuropa]

Wasn't he a trans female-to-male who chose to keep his reproductive organs?

Yep, but he's still a guy. He should be allowed to have an abortion, right?

I don't see any way the arguments for one fail for the other.

[Ifreann]

Wasn't he a trans female-to-male who chose to keep his reproductive organs?

Yep, but he's still a guy. He should be allowed to have an abortion, right?

No. We need as many babies by men as possible because...um...something racist, I dunno.

[Abatael]

How so?

Whoops, I think I may have mistaken "abortion absolutely should be legal" for "abortion absolutely should be banned".

It's okay.

[Nua Corda]

Yep, but he's still a guy. He should be allowed to have an abortion, right?

No. We need as many babies by men as possible because...um...something racist, I dunno.

White Britions will soon be a minority in their own country?

[San Leggera]

Should not be attempted on males.
(I know there's a better way to word this but dammit fatigue is mentally draining)

What about the guy who actually became pregnant? What if he needed an abortion?

That's why I added the disclaimer in small print. Normally I'd be able to word it well enough to avoid that.

[The Merchant Republics]

A) Atheism isn't a religion.
B) Many atheists have very different political views, for instance, I am a Marxist-Leninist; many other atheists on this site aren't Marxist-Leninist.
C) Viewing an entire group as a single entity is a sign of prejudice, Hitler did the same with the Jews.

Tisk Tisk Tisk, Godwin's law in action...

Godwin's law though it may be, he's making a correct analogy.

Ascribing motivations and stereotypes to a single group is a dangerous form of prejudice, whether the practitioners were Nazis to the Jews, the KKK to the Coloured, the Crusaders to the Arabs, the French Catholics to the Hugonots or even the Bolsheviks to the the Russian Bourgeois. It inevitably leads to bloodshed and death.

Atheists are people, indeed people with among the most radically diverse viewpoints of any group, largely because atheists aren't truly a group, there is no single motivation for atheism, no one "holy book" or unifying organization like the church. I know as many atheists on the right as the left, as many intelligent, kind and thoughtful ones as utter assholes, it's wrong to assume that because they don't believe in God as you and I do, that there is anything fundamentally wrong with them.

If anything as two Protestant branch Christians we're more alike than any two atheists, and that's coming from a free market anarchist.

[Individuality-ness]

Wasn't he a trans female-to-male who chose to keep his reproductive organs?

Yep, but he's still a guy. He should be allowed to have an abortion, right?

Of course. ^.^

[Neutraligon]

What about the guy who actually became pregnant? What if he needed an abortion?

That's why I added the disclaimer in small print. Normally I'd be able to word it well enough to avoid that.

maybe male sex rather than males. Anyway I was teasing.

[Nua Corda]

Tisk Tisk Tisk, Godwin's law in action...

Godwin's law though it may be, he's making a correct analogy.

Ascribing motivations and stereotypes to a single group is a dangerous form of prejudice, whether the practitioners were Nazis to the Jews, the KKK to the Coloured, the Crusaders to the Arabs, the French Catholics to the Hugonots or even the Bolsheviks to the the Russian Bourgeois. It inevitably leads to bloodshed and death.

Atheists are people, indeed people with among the most radically diverse viewpoints of any group, largely because atheists aren't truly a group, there is no single motivation for atheism, no one "holy book" or unifying organization like the church. I know as many atheists on the right as the left, as many intelligent, kind and thoughtful ones as utter assholes, it's wrong to assume that because they don't believe in God as you and I do, that there is anything fundamentally wrong with them.

If anything as two Protestant branch Christians we're more alike than any two atheists, and that's coming from a free market anarchist.

Granted, certainly, but it's still a bit tactless and there are other analogies available.

[The Merchant Republics]

Godwin's law though it may be, he's making a correct analogy.

Ascribing motivations and stereotypes to a single group is a dangerous form of prejudice, whether the practitioners were Nazis to the Jews, the KKK to the Coloured, the Crusaders to the Arabs, the French Catholics to the Hugonots or even the Bolsheviks to the the Russian Bourgeois. It inevitably leads to bloodshed and death.

Atheists are people, indeed people with among the most radically diverse viewpoints of any group, largely because atheists aren't truly a group, there is no single motivation for atheism, no one "holy book" or unifying organization like the church. I know as many atheists on the right as the left, as many intelligent, kind and thoughtful ones as utter assholes, it's wrong to assume that because they don't believe in God as you and I do, that there is anything fundamentally wrong with them.

If anything as two Protestant branch Christians we're more alike than any two atheists, and that's coming from a free market anarchist.

Granted, certainly, but it's still a bit tactless and there are other analogies available.

Sure. And you're right to call Godwin, because the Nazis are an extreme comparison.

I just like expounding.

[The New Sea Territory]

Stop lying.

Please stop saying that. It seems to be your only argument. "You're lying." what? Really? come on.

That's all Mavorpen ever does. He's the guy who shouts "Your Ideas are Bullshit" or "God is not real" or anything else that contradicts anything anyone else believes, which forces me to think he's a big-government loving anti-free speech hypocrite.

He's posted on about 7-8 of these threads I post on, usually saying my ideas are wrong.

[Zweite Alaje]

I'm not... I just have no clue what he's trying to say...

Imperium means complete control. So, people need complete control over their body, like so they can do whatever they want to it. (Id est,g et an abortion, suicide, tattoo, whatever clothes they want to wear.)

Abortion, no.
Suicide, depends.
Clothes, whatever.