Cause of Homosexuality and Bisexuality

[Arkinesia]

I am still baffled at the number of people in this forum claiming the APA doesn't know what they're talking about with their poll votes.

[CVT Temp]

I am still baffled at the number of people in this forum claiming the APA doesn't know what they're talking about with their poll votes.

Enlighten me.

[Arkinesia]

I am still baffled at the number of people in this forum claiming the APA doesn't know what they're talking about with their poll votes.

Enlighten me.

“There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.”

http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

[Mavorpen]

Enlighten me.

“There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.”

http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

This is a thread. On a forum. A debate/discussion forum I might add. The thread's discussion involves what we believe to be the most probable explanation for homosexuality. Outside of a few people, no one has seriously claimed that we can reach definitive conclusions. We have narrowed it down and refuted some claims though based off of available evidence, but other than that, I really don't see why your "point" is relevant.

[CVT Temp]

“There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.”

http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

I didn't vote anyway. I don't like speculating outside my field of expertise.

[The Black Forrest]

Why? Because of Leviticus, right?

Which is widely misinterpreted.

Really? Do explain.

[Kabab]

Question: How the hell does temperature changes in the womb affect sexual orientation?

Lesbians are hot, right? So, if it's warmer in the womb, the fetus gets hot, too, and becomes a lesbian. True science fact.

I like this logic.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Which is widely misinterpreted.

If you mean misinterpreted as that only the Jews should be following the Law and Leviticus is not for the Gentiles.... then yes it is a little misinterpreted.

I don't think that's what they meant.

[Menassa]

If you mean misinterpreted as that only the Jews should be following the Law and Leviticus is not for the Gentiles.... then yes it is a little misinterpreted.

I don't think that's what they meant.

Who knows.

[The Black Forrest]

Question: How the hell does temperature changes in the womb affect sexual orientation?

Lesbians are hot, right? So, if it's warmer in the womb, the fetus gets hot, too, and becomes a lesbian. True science fact.

What happens to a guy who watches two lesbians make out?

[Olthar]

Lesbians are hot, right? So, if it's warmer in the womb, the fetus gets hot, too, and becomes a lesbian. True science fact.

What happens to a guy who watches two lesbians make out?

He gets an erection.

[Jagalonia]

Choice?

If it really is a choice....
Go have sex with a man right now. We'll see real fast if it really is a choice....

[Jagalonia]

Question: How the hell does temperature changes in the womb affect sexual orientation?

Lesbians are hot, right? So, if it's warmer in the womb, the fetus gets hot, too, and becomes a lesbian. True science fact.

But what if the child is a male? >.>

[Freiheit Reich]

Same as why do people decide to abuse animals or have an attraction to children. Mental disorder in the brain usually combined with negative outside influences.

Many gays have fathers that weren't around or were abusive. Gays are seeking a father figure's love (these are probably the 'women' in the gay relationship).

Sexual abuse: sometimes but I will say less than half of the cases (just a guess).

Mental disorder is the biggest reason. Sometimes I question why God would make somebody gay.However, it is probably to tempt the gay into sin. We are given temptations because God wants to test our strength. We all have different temptations and gays have an unusual one. The best idea is to try to learn how to be attracted to women or to become asexual.

God's placing of temptations is his version os 'tough love.' I believe in God but sometimes I wish he was not so harsh.Other Christians get angry with my comments like this.

[Xathranaar]

Same as why do people decide to abuse animals or have an attraction to children. Mental disorder in the brain usually combined with negative outside influences.

Many gays have fathers that weren't around or were abusive. Gays are seeking a father figure's love (these are probably the 'women' in the gay relationship).

Sexual abuse: sometimes but I will say less than half of the cases (just a guess).

Mental disorder is the biggest reason. Sometimes I question why God would make somebody gay.However, it is probably to tempt the gay into sin. We are given temptations because God wants to test our strength. We all have different temptations and gays have an unusual one. The best idea is to try to learn how to be attracted to women or to become asexual.

God's placing of temptations is his version os 'tough love.' I believe in God but sometimes I wish he was not so harsh.Other Christians get angry with my comments like this.

[Citation needed]

[Threlizdun]

Same as why do people decide to abuse animals or have an attraction to children. Mental disorder in the brain usually combined with negative outside influences.

Many gays have fathers that weren't around or were abusive. Gays are seeking a father figure's love (these are probably the 'women' in the gay relationship).

Sexual abuse: sometimes but I will say less than half of the cases (just a guess).

Mental disorder is the biggest reason. Sometimes I question why God would make somebody gay.However, it is probably to tempt the gay into sin. We are given temptations because God wants to test our strength. We all have different temptations and gays have an unusual one. The best idea is to try to learn how to be attracted to women or to become asexual.

God's placing of temptations is his version os 'tough love.' I believe in God but sometimes I wish he was not so harsh.Other Christians get angry with my comments like this.

I was not abused, did not have a distant father, and my pansexuality sure as fuck isn't a mental disorder. Your beliefs on the matter are complete bullshit.

[Grenartia]

Same as why do people decide to abuse animals or have an attraction to children. Mental disorder in the brain usually combined with negative outside influences.

Many gays have fathers that weren't around or were abusive. Gays are seeking a father figure's love (these are probably the 'women' in the gay relationship).

Sexual abuse: sometimes but I will say less than half of the cases (just a guess).

Mental disorder is the biggest reason. Sometimes I question why God would make somebody gay.However, it is probably to tempt the gay into sin. We are given temptations because God wants to test our strength. We all have different temptations and gays have an unusual one. The best idea is to try to learn how to be attracted to women or to become asexual.

God's placing of temptations is his version os 'tough love.' I believe in God but sometimes I wish he was not so harsh.Other Christians get angry with my comments like this.

I was not abused, did not have a distant father, and my pansexuality sure as fuck isn't a mental disorder. Your beliefs on the matter are complete bullshit.

You stole the words right out of my mouth.

Also, FR, what if God doesn't consider it a sin? Has that possibility ever entered into your mind?

[Faolinn]

I don't see how it could be anything other than genetics unless you can prove to me that some form of supernatural force turns people into people of the LGBT demographic at random and nowhere in any occult scripture or ancient legend have I heard of spirits which do this.

[Grenartia]

I don't see how it could be anything other than genetics unless you can prove to me that some form of supernatural force turns people into people of the LGBT demographic at random and nowhere in any occult scripture or ancient legend have I heard of spirits which do this.

IIRC, there is some evidence to support prenatal hormone levels being involved as well.

[Freiheit Reich]

Same as why do people decide to abuse animals or have an attraction to children. Mental disorder in the brain usually combined with negative outside influences.

Many gays have fathers that weren't around or were abusive. Gays are seeking a father figure's love (these are probably the 'women' in the gay relationship).

Sexual abuse: sometimes but I will say less than half of the cases (just a guess).

Mental disorder is the biggest reason. Sometimes I question why God would make somebody gay.However, it is probably to tempt the gay into sin. We are given temptations because God wants to test our strength. We all have different temptations and gays have an unusual one. The best idea is to try to learn how to be attracted to women or to become asexual.

God's placing of temptations is his version os 'tough love.' I believe in God but sometimes I wish he was not so harsh.Other Christians get angry with my comments like this.

I was not abused, did not have a distant father, and my pansexuality sure as fuck isn't a mental disorder. Your beliefs on the matter are complete bullshit.

I forgot to mention the rebel factor. Now many think it is cool to be gay. Also it makes older people mad (like parents and grandparents). Before people got tatoos to be rebels, now people have stepped it up and become gay. Why do you think there are more gays in San Francisco versus St. Louis? Being a rebel is cooler in San Francisco and people feel the need to be extreme there and fit in with their 'cool' friends.

[Xathranaar]

I was not abused, did not have a distant father, and my pansexuality sure as fuck isn't a mental disorder. Your beliefs on the matter are complete bullshit.

I forgot to mention the rebel factor. Now many think it is cool to be gay. Also it makes older people mad (like parents and grandparents). Before people got tatoos to be rebels, now people have stepped it up and become gay. Why do you think there are more gays in San Francisco versus St. Louis? Being a rebel is cooler in San Francisco and people feel the need to be extreme there and fit in with their 'cool' friends.

Yeah, any explanation but the one given by all relevant experts, the one backed up by all the data, and that gay people themselves give.

I know that ostriches don't actually bury their heads in the sand, but I'm beginning to wonder about humans.

[Jagalonia]

I was not abused, did not have a distant father, and my pansexuality sure as fuck isn't a mental disorder. Your beliefs on the matter are complete bullshit.

I forgot to mention the rebel factor. Now many think it is cool to be gay. Also it makes older people mad (like parents and grandparents). Before people got tatoos to be rebels, now people have stepped it up and become gay. Why do you think there are more gays in San Francisco versus St. Louis? Being a rebel is cooler in San Francisco and people feel the need to be extreme there and fit in with their 'cool' friends.

Yes. It's cool to be made fun of all through high school.

[Jagalonia]

I forgot to mention the rebel factor. Now many think it is cool to be gay. Also it makes older people mad (like parents and grandparents). Before people got tatoos to be rebels, now people have stepped it up and become gay. Why do you think there are more gays in San Francisco versus St. Louis? Being a rebel is cooler in San Francisco and people feel the need to be extreme there and fit in with their 'cool' friends.

Yeah, any explanation but the one given by all relevant experts, the one backed up by all the data, and that gay people themselves give.

I know that ostriches don't actually bury their heads in the sand, but I'm beginning to wonder about humans.

That just reminded me of this....

[Faolinn]

Yeah, according to all the gay people I know, it's anything but cool.

[Freiheit Reich]

I forgot to mention the rebel factor. Now many think it is cool to be gay. Also it makes older people mad (like parents and grandparents). Before people got tatoos to be rebels, now people have stepped it up and become gay. Why do you think there are more gays in San Francisco versus St. Louis? Being a rebel is cooler in San Francisco and people feel the need to be extreme there and fit in with their 'cool' friends.

Yes. It's cool to be made fun of all through high school.

We had gothic people in our high school. They dress in all black and paint their faces white. People make fun of them but they purposely dress weird because they think being weird is cool. Gays are doing the same thing. Some people love standing out.