Cause of Homosexuality and Bisexuality

[Eirenia]

I wasn't saying that it was okay; I was simply proving him wrong about there not being any countries allowing 9 year olds to consent.

I would correct you on my gender but there's so much more wrong about what you're saying that it almost seems superfluous.

[Abatael]

Laws prohibit actions; they don't allow actions.

Then I guess a significant portion of the Constitution isn't "law" then, eh?

You're talking about rights.

See, the Amendments saying, "The government CANNOT do this or they have to do this" is a law. Them saying, "You're allowed to do this" is a right or a privilege.

But I'm done with this.

[Abatael]

I wasn't saying that it was okay; I was simply proving him wrong about there not being any countries allowing 9 year olds to consent.

I would correct you on my gender but there's so much more wrong about what you're saying that it almost seems superfluous.

That's a creative way of admitting you were wrong.

[Olthar]

Then I guess a significant portion of the Constitution isn't "law" then, eh?

You're talking about rights.

See, the Amendments saying, "The government CANNOT do this or they have to do this" is a law. Them saying, "You're allowed to do this" is a right or a privilege.

But I'm done with this.

Rights aren't laws? Who knew.

[Transhuman Proteus]

The problem with those examples is that they don't have a recognized one at all, as opposed to one set low. It isn't an argument for "well, Cameroon seems to think a 9 year old can consent" it's an argument for "Cameroon has an interesting legal system full of holes, exploits and no provisions for things practically every culture, including their own, finds abhorrent" Since by that logic a 8,7,6,5,4,3 should be able to consent as well, because hey, Cameroon doesn't have a law saying that is too young.

I wasn't saying that it was okay; I was simply proving him wrong about there not being any countries allowing 9 year olds to consent

I wasn't saying you were, I was saying it isn't a good example because the lack of the law doesn't imply that, since if we read the lack of the law as that it also means Cameroon allows 4 year olds to consent. Who knows how it figures into their rape legislation.

[Eirenia]

I would correct you on my gender but there's so much more wrong about what you're saying that it almost seems superfluous.

That's a creative way of admitting you were wrong.

You've conveniently ignored my other post, I guess.

[Abatael]

You're talking about rights.

See, the Amendments saying, "The government CANNOT do this or they have to do this" is a law. Them saying, "You're allowed to do this" is a right or a privilege.

But I'm done with this.

Rights aren't laws? Who knew.

It's an ethical principle, an entitlement.

[Eirenia]

Rights aren't laws? Who knew.

It's an ethical principle, an entitlement.

Rights are ethical principles, but consent is just a regional law?

[Olthar]

Rights aren't laws? Who knew.

It's an ethical principle, an entitlement.

See, I was under the impression that the definition of a "law" was "the principles and regulations established in a community by some authority and applicable to its people, whether in the form of legislation or of custom and policies recognized and enforced by judicial decision." I guess that's all wrong though, and the real definition is "shit you're not allowed to do." Well, I am certainly a more enlightened person now.

[The Black Forrest]

Oh lord, you really believe that nine year olds can consent.

There is no country in the world that explicitly permits nine year olds to consent.

If you think a child can consent to sex, you're sick. Sorry, pal. Show me any source saying a nine-year-old is capable of consenting to sex.

Cameroon and the Central African Republic have no age of consent legally.

What exactly is your point here? The fact they don't have an active law means something?

Do you know if they have even attempted it? Do you know cases of adult/child sexual interactions?

The fact they don't have a defined law doesn't exactly mean it's free season on children. As Trotsky so eloquently pointed out you can't simply have sex with a kid and declare "but they consented" Do that and you better run for it.

Shall we talk about the rights of women, gays, the trafficking of children......

[Abatael]

It's an ethical principle, an entitlement.

See, I was under the impression that the definition of a "law" was "the principles and regulations established in a community by some authority and applicable to its people, whether in the form of legislation or of custom and policies recognized and enforced by judicial decision." I guess that's all wrong though, and the real definition is "shit you're not allowed to do." Well, I am certainly a more enlightened person now.

What do you think regulations are?

Edit: And you can't enforce a right. You can enforce not violating that right, but that would be not allowing something.

[The Black Forrest]

See, I was under the impression that the definition of a "law" was "the principles and regulations established in a community by some authority and applicable to its people, whether in the form of legislation or of custom and policies recognized and enforced by judicial decision." I guess that's all wrong though, and the real definition is "shit you're not allowed to do." Well, I am certainly a more enlightened person now.

What do you think regulations are?

Edit: And you can't enforce a right. You can enforce not violating that right, but that would be not allowing something.

In a free society; sure. Do you think your examples are free societies?

[Olthar]

See, I was under the impression that the definition of a "law" was "the principles and regulations established in a community by some authority and applicable to its people, whether in the form of legislation or of custom and policies recognized and enforced by judicial decision." I guess that's all wrong though, and the real definition is "shit you're not allowed to do." Well, I am certainly a more enlightened person now.

What do you think regulations are?

Edit: And you can't enforce a right. You can enforce not violating that right, but that would be not allowing something.

What do you think principles are?

"Enforcing not violating a right" is a double negative. Try again.

[Meryuma]

this is jusy my opinion but homosexuality is a mental illness i think theres a gay gene and it can be cured.

As a gay person who also has a mental illness, go away.

[The Black Forrest]

this is jusy my opinion but homosexuality is a mental illness i think theres a gay gene and it can be cured.

As a gay person who also has a mental illness, go away.

Oh you are not gay; you just haven't found the right partner yet. It will stop as you mature.

[Volnotova]

I can safely state that I have never ever been sexually abused, thank you very much.

That said: Epigenetics, etc.

I recently noticed there are a lot more gay/bi people on my father's side than on my mother's side (barely any if any on the latter).

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I just happen to find both males and females to be sexually attractive to me. I don't know if it's hormonal, I don't know if it's genetic or whatever other silly combination people come up with, and I frankly don't give a damn. All I know and I care about is that I find both men and women to be beautiful and sexually desirable.

[Kabab]

Question: How the hell does temperature changes in the womb affect sexual orientation?

[Volnotova]

Homosexuality is unnatural. If genetics are involved at all it's a genetic disorder/disease.

Why? Because of Leviticus, right?

Which is widely misinterpreted.

[Olthar]

Question: How the hell does temperature changes in the womb affect sexual orientation?

Lesbians are hot, right? So, if it's warmer in the womb, the fetus gets hot, too, and becomes a lesbian. True science fact.

[Xathranaar]

Question: How the hell does temperature changes in the womb affect sexual orientation?

Temperature does affect sexual development in many reptiles, so it is not impossible that we might have inherited such a characteristic.

I haven't seen any compelling evidence for it, however.

[Roggel (Ancient)]

Here in P.R. Roggel we see female homo/bisexuality as a sign from heaven, while male homo/bisexuality is a sign from hell.

[Olthar]

Here in P.R. Roggel we see female homo/bisexuality as a sign from heaven, while male homo/bisexuality is a sign from hell.

Pro Tip: This isn't an IC forum.

[CVT Temp]

Which is widely misinterpreted.

I don't even care if it is being misinterpreted or not. Why do so many people care what one passage in Leviticus says when they so easily "interpret" away or even ignore large chunks of the bible? Why is this passage one which must be accepted?

[Menassa]

Why? Because of Leviticus, right?

Which is widely misinterpreted.

If you mean misinterpreted as that only the Jews should be following the Law and Leviticus is not for the Gentiles.... then yes it is a little misinterpreted.