Cause of Homosexuality and Bisexuality

[New Rogernomics]

I hear its because they watched too much porn.

I watched so much porn, I became homophobic.
But honestly, I believe that any sexual orientation that is not entirely beneficial to the survival of the human race is caused by differences in DNA.

Then you need to watch more.

[Zweite Alaje]

I dare you to find another legit fascist/quasi-fascist that is a brony. I doubt you will find one.

Actually I know one. He's also a German.

Are you sure he's an actual fascist, and not a fetish fascist? BTW, I'm not German.

[Xathranaar]

Personally I believe bisexuality is the norm, but due to influences both internal and external most people choose a mono-sexuality. I don't believe for a second anyone identifying as "straight" or "gay" has never found someone other than the sex they've chosen to pursue attractive. People have their own tastes and those tastes can be found in both men and women, however due to society most people feel they have to make a choice and so they choose the sex they mostly find attractive.

I've never in my life been attracted to someone of the opposite sex. So... Yeah... Your little theory doesn't quite add up for me.

Nor I, but switch it.

Except for maybe Orlando Blum... he is a beautiful woman.

[Alowwvia]

Actually I know one. He's also a German.

Are you sure he's an actual fascist, and not a fetish fascist? BTW, I'm not German.

He seems to look back on the 3rd Reich as 'probably the high point of Germany'. Not a Nazi, necessarily, but definitely fascist.

[Arkinesia]

Sexual abuse? I'll tell ya something, chappie.

When I was six I was forced into a situation that I won't delve into, but it was pretty much being raped. Now, does that constitute my sexual orientation to be of homosexual or bisexual preference? Nope, nu-uh, nada, no comprendo esse. You must be getting payed a lot of cash to say this kark.

When people say it just is, in my opinion they are referring to that imprint we all get stained upon our minds when we gain consciousness. Think of the last episode of the first season of the Walking Dead when the depressed scientist doctor guy was talking about brians, or was that brains? But anyway, that's a pretty good layman term for those who try to use science to attack homosexual and bisexual people.

Just because in your case sexual abuse failed to lead to homosexuality doesn't mean there aren't cases where sexual abuse was the only differing marker for someone who turned out to be homosexual further down the pike.

I hate to just keep regurgitating the APA to some of you people but god damn. Read a fucking book about the subject or something.

[Thama]

I have to inform you, naturally, nearly all animals are born Bisexual, the rest are all born pansexual, they usually all stay that way. Humans, being animals, are no exception, and like all great apes, we are born bisexual. It is genetics that determine our initial sexuality, and the whole species has it determined. Later on in life, it is hormones and peer pressure that determine this. The reason most of the human population is straight is because there are some cases of huge neglect early in life, causing prejudice, bias and hate. This mixed with the fact all humans yearn for acceptation, don't tolerate difference and want to be part of a group ends up with things like religions, cults and groups which call homosexuals and bisexuals wrong. This is then passed down onto kids with idolising, parental respect and peer pressure, making most humans inherently straight when in fact, naturally everyone would be bisexual. And gay people, well, mostly the same thing. Really, homosexuality is just bisexuality where there is so much more attraction to the same sex, the opposite sex is unaccounted for.

I also forgot to say, naturally, some straight people are born simply because of bisexuality in which there is so much more attraction to the opposite sex, the same sex is unaccounted for. This mixed with the aforementioned natural prejudice and hate is another reason for hate of homo and bisexuality among humanity.

[Zweite Alaje]

I have to inform you, naturally, nearly all animals are born Bisexual, the rest are all born pansexual, they usually all stay that way. Humans, being animals, are no exception, and like all great apes, we are born bisexual. It is genetics that determine our initial sexuality, and the whole species has it determined. Later on in life, it is hormones and peer pressure that determine this. The reason most of the human population is straight is because there are some cases of huge neglect early in life, causing prejudice, bias and hate. This mixed with the fact all humans yearn for acceptation, don't tolerate difference and want to be part of a group ends up with things like religions, cults and groups which call homosexuals and bisexuals wrong. This is then passed down onto kids with idolising, parental respect and peer pressure, making most humans inherently straight when in fact, naturally everyone would be bisexual. And gay people, well, mostly the same thing. Really, homosexuality is just bisexuality where there is so much more attraction to the same sex, the opposite sex is unaccounted for.

I also forgot to say, naturally, some straight people are born simply because of bisexuality in which there is so much more attraction to the opposite sex, the same sex is unaccounted for. This mixed with the aforementioned natural prejudice and hate is another reason for hate of homo and bisexuality among humanity.

No, if your gay, you're gay, straight, you're straight, bi, you're bi. Bisexuality is not the default.

[Tsuntion]

I have to inform you, naturally, nearly all animals are born Bisexual, the rest are all born pansexual, they usually all stay that way.

What? I'd be interested in a source for that.

[Der Teutoniker]

If I had to guess? A minor genetic aberration probably. Seems to make the most sense.

[Aalnordhavn]

If I had to guess? A minor genetic aberration probably. Seems to make the most sense.

You're calling me flawed for liking other women? "Broken" per se? That's messed up dude.

[Der Teutoniker]

You're calling me flawed for liking other women? "Broken" per se? That's messed up dude.

I said neither flawed nor broken. Closer to abnormal. That need not be an insult at all, all it means is that it is something that is not "normal". Many things are not "normal" that are not bad.

Edit: serious? "unapologetic grammar Nazi" and you misuse two different expressions? Both "aberrant" and "per se". Tsk tsk.

[Zweite Alaje]

If I had to guess? A minor genetic aberration probably. Seems to make the most sense.

You're calling me flawed for liking other women? "Broken" per se? That's messed up dude.

He's saying more like having nearsightedness, not "normal" but not necessarily bad either.

[Der Teutoniker]

He's saying more like having nearsightedness, not "normal" but not necessarily bad either.

I usually compare it to left-handedness, actually. Something that is not harmful, and occurs in roughly 5-8% of the population.

Pretty similar though, yeah.

[Olthar]

You're calling me flawed for liking other women? "Broken" per se? That's messed up dude.

He's saying more like having nearsightedness, not "normal" but not necessarily bad either.

Poor example since nearsightedness is bad. That's why we fix it with glasses, contacts, or surgery.

[Tsuntion]

If I had to guess? A minor genetic aberration probably. Seems to make the most sense.

You're calling me flawed for liking other women? "Broken" per se? That's messed up dude.

I don't really like it when people say that. Genetic mutations aren't inherantly bad. Someone is not subnormal if they have a mutation for red hair -- as in, their parents were neither redheaded nor carriers of the recessive allele(s) that, to my knowledge, cause red hair. Abnormal, yes, but not subnormal. Nothing wrong with differing from the norm.

[Trotskylvania]

If there is a genetic component to sexual preference, it is most assuredly not a single gene, given the vast spectrum of possibilities. Also, it cannot be entirely genetic, because identical twins do not have matching sexual preferences, though the correlation is high.

[Thama]

I have to inform you, naturally, nearly all animals are born Bisexual, the rest are all born pansexual, they usually all stay that way.

What? I'd be interested in a source for that.

I'm sorry, I don't possess a direct source. I don't keep every url I've ever visited, don't remember every video and program I've ever watched or books and articles I've ever read.

[Der Teutoniker]

I don't really like it when people say that. Genetic mutations aren't inherantly bad. Someone is not subnormal if they have a mutation for red hair -- as in, their parents were neither redheaded nor carriers of the recessive allele(s) that, to my knowledge, cause red hair. Abnormal, yes, but not subnormal. Nothing wrong with differing from the norm.

I'd like to say, for the record, that my opinion is much closer to yours than to hers.

She took a connotation of "aberrant" to an extreme, and applied that to my post.

[Midlonia]

I kind of have to agree with Aal though, using the term "Abberation" has negative connotations, indeed google definition points to it being "bad":

Noun
- A departure from what is normal, usual, or expected, typically one that is unwelcome.
- A person whose beliefs or behavior are unusual or unacceptable.

It's too sensitive a situation and debate to really throw out such a term. If you're going to play the genetic card then you really can't turn around and say "this is not normal" as you're applying morality to what is supposed to be a scientific concept. It has too many nasty connotations.

[Der Teutoniker]

I'm sorry, I don't possess a direct source. I don't keep every url I've ever visited, don't remember every video and program I've ever watched or books and articles I've ever read.

Unfortunately, that means you have no resources upon which to draw to support your amusing argument.

[Norstal]

I never said Asexys are repulsed by sex, Norstal said that.

You said that sex is overrated, I want you to source that this defines asexuality with a peer reviewed source.

I seriously don't get it. Homosexuals don't have a tier on how much they're homosexual. Neither do bis. Not even transgenders have it. Only the asexuals have this and, more than that, it's the asexual organization that's making this classification.

Circular argument is circular.

[Tsuntion]

I'm sorry, I don't possess a direct source. I don't keep every url I've ever visited, don't remember every video and program I've ever watched or books and articles I've ever read.

Might this help?

[Der Teutoniker]

I kind of have to agree with Aal though, using the term "Abberation" has negative connotations, indeed google definition points to it being "bad":

Noun
- A departure from what is normal, usual, or expected, typically one that is unwelcome.
- A person whose beliefs or behavior are unusual or unacceptable.

It's too sensitive a situation and debate to really throw out such a term. If you're going to play the genetic card then you really can't turn around and say "this is not normal" as you're applying morality to what is supposed to be a scientific concept. It has too many nasty connotations.

"A departure from what is normal". If you use the word negatively, feel free. I did not in this case, and the word need not be bad. If you are too sensitive a person to accept valid diction in this "situation" then maybe you shouldn't partake in a thread where such words get used. Abnormal does not mean subnormal. If some people use it that way - I am not. You need to deal with the way that I am correctly using language, rather than the subjective way you want to colloquially use language.

Edit: And that isn't even the Google definition. Here is the Google definition. "Diverging from the normal type" seems to fit pretty well, considering that homosexuals are a relatively small portion of the population.

[Zweite Alaje]

He's saying more like having nearsightedness, not "normal" but not necessarily bad either.

Poor example since nearsightedness is bad. That's why we fix it with glasses, contacts, or surgery.

It's not that bad, but that's not the point. You understood what I was trying to get at right?

[Olthar]

Poor example since nearsightedness is bad. That's why we fix it with glasses, contacts, or surgery.

It's not that bad, but that's not the point. You understood what I was trying to get at right?

Of course I understood what you were trying to say.