Cause of Homosexuality and Bisexuality

[Eirenia]

Ja.

Pathetic.

[Eirenia]

(also, I think you're just making your way to my post, but I had the angry queer blinders on and...yanno...)

It happens. I mean I do have "Nazi" in my name, a swastika on my flag, and a bad habit of promoting National Socialism. And it is 3 AM.

You are kidding, right? Yes?

[Ohne Zeit]

Ja.

Pathetic.

Warum?

[Zweite Alaje]

Ja.

Bitte nicht veröffentlichen off topic, wenn Sie in deutscher Sprache unterhalten gibt es einen Thread zu diesem irgendwo wollen.

[Nazi Flower Power]

It happens. I mean I do have "Nazi" in my name, a swastika on my flag, and a bad habit of promoting National Socialism. And it is 3 AM.

You are kidding, right? Yes?

Well, my style of "promoting National Socialism" is a little different from the people who actually believe in it.

[Ohne Zeit]

Ja.

Bitte nicht veröffentlichen off topic, wenn Sie in deutscher Sprache unterhalten gibt es einen Thread zu diesem irgendwo wollen.

Nein.

[Zweite Alaje]

You are kidding, right? Yes?

Well, my style of "promoting National Socialism" is a little different from the people who actually believe in it.

Crypto-Nazi?

[Eirenia]

You are kidding, right? Yes?

Well, my style of "promoting National Socialism" is a little different from the people who actually believe in it.

Fair enough! Internet communication is hard, okay?

Alaje, you never did send me all those sources you promised me! Tsk.

[Xathranaar]

Identical twins have different fingerprints.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/rea ... ngerprints
Or this one.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... -identical

If you wanted to say that both individuals have the same foundational genetics, that would be correct. But the moment they enter the world, they begin to adapt and change. There may be striking similaries such as appearance. But even their genes will differentiate in some fairly major ways, given enough time.

As for homosexuality.. What science has proven is that is it not nurtured. You cannot raise a child to be gay. But science has not determined whether it is genetics or environment, or a combination of the two. As a gay man, I can state that I never "decided" to be gay. I never responded to women sexually, I always responded to men (well, those that bathed on a regular basis and have a car and a 401k) sexually.

There have been some interesting studies.

Brain Mapping and the Gay Brain http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 151845.htm
Hearing Differences for Lesbians http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/19 ... 064433.htm
More Brothers means More Homosexuals http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... y-gay.html
Evolutionary Psychology shows Biological Benefits to Homosexity http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/1 ... 90501.html

Which basically means ... "We don't know... but they didn't choose it"

The best argument against this research is: Do these biological difference cause homosexuality, or did the homosexuality create these changes as a response? Again, no one really knows.

Science just exploded.

First, identical twins are DEFINED as having the exact same genes.
Second, the only difference between an identical twin and a clone, aside from how they were made, is their age relative to the comparison. An identical twin will vary by a few minutes - so not at all, for nearly all intents and purposes, whereas a clone will be younger than the original by however long the original had been alive before it was cloned.

This. This is a good first post.
http://youtu.be/DIRA5ifvmtw?t=2m8s

[Zweite Alaje]

Bitte nicht veröffentlichen off topic, wenn Sie in deutscher Sprache unterhalten gibt es einen Thread zu diesem irgendwo wollen.

Nein.

Sie sind Entgleisung dieses Thema, ist es für die Diskussion Homosexualität, nicht Konversation in Deutsch. Bitte stoppen Sie Spam.

[Ohne Zeit]

Nein.

Sie sind Entgleisung dieses Thema, ist es für die Diskussion Homosexualität, nicht Konversation in Deutsch. Bitte stoppen Sie Spam.

Nein.

[Eirenia]

A study of male homosexuality in twins:

• Homosexual male probands with monozygotic cotwins, dizygotic cotwins, or adoptive brothers were recruited using homophile publications. Sexual orientation of relatives was assessed either by asking relatives directly, or when this was impossible, asking the probands. Of the relatives whose sexual orientation could be rated, 52% (29/56) of monozygotic cotwins, 22% (12/54) of dizygotic cotwins, and 11% (6/57) of adoptive brothers were homosexual. Heritabilities were substantial under a wide range of assumptions about the population base rate of homosexuality and ascertainment bias. However, the rate of homosexuality among nontwin biological siblings, as reported by probands, 9.2% (13/142), was significantly lower than would be predicted by a simple genetic hypothesis and other published reports. A proband's self-reported history of childhood gender nonconformity did not predict homosexuality in relatives in any of the three subsamples. Thus, childhood gender nonconformity does not appear to be an indicator of genetic loading for homosexuality. Cotwins from concordant monozygotic pairs were very similar for childhood gender nonconformity.

source

[Kilobugya]

Like most complicated, "high-level" characteristic of humans, it probably has both genetic and environmental factors. In which proportion we just don't know yet.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Well, my style of "promoting National Socialism" is a little different from the people who actually believe in it.

Fair enough! Internet communication is hard, okay?

It doesn't bother me when people aren't sure if I am serious or joking. When I first created this nation and started posting as a Nazi, it took a while for people to catch on.

[Ohne Zeit]

Are you actually a neo-Nazi?

[Corporate Investors]

Hello NS. I am here because I recently found an article (lost it now) that suggested that there was a correlation between the temperature and hormones in the womb or something like that and homosexuality. This got me thinking as to the cause(s) of Homosexuality. My theory is it is all genetics.

I have met people who say that "it just is" and frankly I do not accept that line of argument as it has no backing in facts or evidence. From what I remember from Biology, a simple dumbed down version that is, is that one gender releases pheromones which the other gender detects and is attracted to. There is a difference in pheromone detection and production from male to female and inside the genders as well (explaining why you'd be attracted to one girl and not another). That is at least the way it was explained to me. Now basing off what my Bio teacher told me, I conclude that for someone to be Homosexual, they must detect the same sets of pheromones as opposed to just the opposite set. This would explain bisexuality as well, a person in that case detects both sets of pheromones. Well the next logical question is why. Why do homosexuals and bisexuals have this different detection system. Well the way I look at it is the brain. The brain is the center of everything and therefore it would be logical to assume that this attraction is different because the brains between a homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual person are different. What would explain their brains being different in the sense of attraction? their construction, and their construction was in their mother's womb according to the genetic blueprint. This would also explain homosexual behavior in other species as well. Therefore I conclude that the cause of homosexuality must be genetics or something else that connects to and can disrupt the construction of the brain. An answer for the question of "why is it so widespread then" could be simply stated that homosexuals concealed their desires for those of their own gender and had children causing their genes and the mutation to pass on to the children, in which case the gene could go unnoticed and or repressed for generations.

That is my view on the cause of homosexuality and bisexuality, I am curious as to what the opinions of those on NS are.

Other: Environment

[Xathranaar]

Hello NS. I am here because I recently found an article (lost it now) that suggested that there was a correlation between the temperature and hormones in the womb or something like that and homosexuality. This got me thinking as to the cause(s) of Homosexuality. My theory is it is all genetics.

I have met people who say that "it just is" and frankly I do not accept that line of argument as it has no backing in facts or evidence. From what I remember from Biology, a simple dumbed down version that is, is that one gender releases pheromones which the other gender detects and is attracted to. There is a difference in pheromone detection and production from male to female and inside the genders as well (explaining why you'd be attracted to one girl and not another). That is at least the way it was explained to me. Now basing off what my Bio teacher told me, I conclude that for someone to be Homosexual, they must detect the same sets of pheromones as opposed to just the opposite set. This would explain bisexuality as well, a person in that case detects both sets of pheromones. Well the next logical question is why. Why do homosexuals and bisexuals have this different detection system. Well the way I look at it is the brain. The brain is the center of everything and therefore it would be logical to assume that this attraction is different because the brains between a homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual person are different. What would explain their brains being different in the sense of attraction? their construction, and their construction was in their mother's womb according to the genetic blueprint. This would also explain homosexual behavior in other species as well. Therefore I conclude that the cause of homosexuality must be genetics or something else that connects to and can disrupt the construction of the brain. An answer for the question of "why is it so widespread then" could be simply stated that homosexuals concealed their desires for those of their own gender and had children causing their genes and the mutation to pass on to the children, in which case the gene could go unnoticed and or repressed for generations.

That is my view on the cause of homosexuality and bisexuality, I am curious as to what the opinions of those on NS are.

Other: Environment

It's those damn plants. Just like in The Happening.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Are you actually a neo-Nazi?

No, I am a real Nazi, from the original NSDAP.

[Eirenia]

Hello NS. I am here because I recently found an article (lost it now) that suggested that there was a correlation between the temperature and hormones in the womb or something like that and homosexuality. This got me thinking as to the cause(s) of Homosexuality. My theory is it is all genetics.

I have met people who say that "it just is" and frankly I do not accept that line of argument as it has no backing in facts or evidence. From what I remember from Biology, a simple dumbed down version that is, is that one gender releases pheromones which the other gender detects and is attracted to. There is a difference in pheromone detection and production from male to female and inside the genders as well (explaining why you'd be attracted to one girl and not another). That is at least the way it was explained to me. Now basing off what my Bio teacher told me, I conclude that for someone to be Homosexual, they must detect the same sets of pheromones as opposed to just the opposite set. This would explain bisexuality as well, a person in that case detects both sets of pheromones. Well the next logical question is why. Why do homosexuals and bisexuals have this different detection system. Well the way I look at it is the brain. The brain is the center of everything and therefore it would be logical to assume that this attraction is different because the brains between a homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual person are different. What would explain their brains being different in the sense of attraction? their construction, and their construction was in their mother's womb according to the genetic blueprint. This would also explain homosexual behavior in other species as well. Therefore I conclude that the cause of homosexuality must be genetics or something else that connects to and can disrupt the construction of the brain. An answer for the question of "why is it so widespread then" could be simply stated that homosexuals concealed their desires for those of their own gender and had children causing their genes and the mutation to pass on to the children, in which case the gene could go unnoticed and or repressed for generations.

That is my view on the cause of homosexuality and bisexuality, I am curious as to what the opinions of those on NS are.

Other: Environment

What in my environment made me gay? enlighten me.

[Eirenia]

Fair enough! Internet communication is hard, okay?

It doesn't bother me when people aren't sure if I am serious or joking. When I first created this nation and started posting as a Nazi, it took a while for people to catch on.

You know, most places it would seem silly to wonder, but on NS...

[Zweite Alaje]

It doesn't bother me when people aren't sure if I am serious or joking. When I first created this nation and started posting as a Nazi, it took a while for people to catch on.

You know, most places it would seem silly to wonder, but on NS...

Anything can happen on NSG. Hell, I'm a fascist brony!

[The Truth and Light]

You know, most places it would seem silly to wonder, but on NS...

Anything can happen on NSG. Hell, I'm a fascist brony!

Taking two normal things and putting them together doesn't make you stand out.

[Neu Acadie]

Are you actually a neo-Nazi?

No, I am a real Nazi, from the original NSDAP.

Wow, you are old.

How is it to be a real life super villain? (Joking.)

[Zweite Alaje]

Anything can happen on NSG. Hell, I'm a fascist brony!

Taking two normal things and putting them together doesn't make you stand out.

I dare you to find another legit fascist/quasi-fascist that is a brony. I doubt you will find one.

[The Truth and Light]

Taking two normal things and putting them together doesn't make you stand out.

I dare you to find another legit fascist/quasi-fascist that is a brony. I doubt you will find one.

That's not really the issue...