Obama speaks on changes to US gun laws

[Lessnt]

Gun culture in america has always been.
Since colonial times.
And America has benefitted from it.
The militia that created the USA could not exist without the gun culture.

And this conservative mindset, this reluctance to ever ADAPT to modern times is making me sick down to the core.

The US is nothing to envy. Once the greatest nation, but it's living in the wake of its past, desperately trying to hang on to the 'good old days'

This might be a blunt statement, but it's pathetic.

The world has to adapt to THE USA not the otherway around LOL.
Your modern time was BUILT BY THE USA.

[Esternial]

And this conservative mindset, this reluctance to ever ADAPT to modern times is making me sick down to the core.

The US is nothing to envy. Once the greatest nation, but it's living in the wake of its past, desperately trying to hang on to the 'good old days'

This might be a blunt statement, but it's pathetic.

The world has to adapt to THE USA not the otherway around LOL.
Your modern time was BUILT BY THE USA.

History disagrees, wake up from your pipe dream.

Just like the British when their great Empire fell. In denial, stubborn as hell.

[Priory Academy USSR]

The world has to adapt to THE USA not the otherway around LOL.
Your modern time was BUILT BY THE USA.

History disagrees, wake up from your pipe dream.

Just like the British when their great Empire fell. In denial, stubborn as hell.

I'd say the view that Britain lead the world fell in most people's eyes after the Suez Crisis. We accepted it fairly quickly, since we were a world encompassing superpower only 20 years earlier.

[Salandriagado]

And this conservative mindset, this reluctance to ever ADAPT to modern times is making me sick down to the core.

The US is nothing to envy. Once the greatest nation, but it's living in the wake of its past, desperately trying to hang on to the 'good old days'

This might be a blunt statement, but it's pathetic.

The world has to adapt to THE USA not the otherway around LOL.
Your modern time was BUILT BY THE USA.

You know, I'm sure if I dug around I could find people saying exactly the same in the late British Empire. And the late Roman Empire. You know what all of those people had in common? They were horribly, horribly wrong. As wrong as you are, in fact.

[Esternial]

History disagrees, wake up from your pipe dream.

Just like the British when their great Empire fell. In denial, stubborn as hell.

I'd say the view that Britain lead the world fell in most people's eyes after the Suez Crisis. We accepted it fairly quickly, since we were a world encompassing superpower only 20 years earlier.

Maybe start a new discussion about this.

[Terraius]

I doubt existing owners of 10+ round magazine clips are going to be effected by this. If so, they are going to have hell trying to enforce the statues.

Actually they will. The value of their mags just went up. I remember buying Black talon rounds for my Glock17. Two boxes at $20 dollar each. When they were taken off the market, I moved to Gold Dots (same price) and sold my talons at $100 dollars a box.

Thats not the point. Of course they are effected by it from an economical perspective because the vendors and sellers are taking advantage of the hype (rightfully so) to raise prices. The point was in regards to the government attempting to take away the clips or somehow tax you to death for owning them.

[Terraius]

Gun culture in america has always been.
Since colonial times.
And America has benefitted from it.
The militia that created the USA could not exist without the gun culture.

And this conservative mindset, this reluctance to ever ADAPT to modern times is making me sick down to the core.

The US is nothing to envy. Once the greatest nation, but it's living in the wake of its past, desperately trying to hang on to the 'good old days'

This might be a blunt statement, but it's pathetic.

I did not realize there was a more modern nation we were failing to match in terms of adaptation.

[Salandriagado]

And this conservative mindset, this reluctance to ever ADAPT to modern times is making me sick down to the core.

The US is nothing to envy. Once the greatest nation, but it's living in the wake of its past, desperately trying to hang on to the 'good old days'

This might be a blunt statement, but it's pathetic.

I did not realize there was a more modern nation we were failing to match in terms of adaptation.

Might I suggest taking some world geography courses? They would likely enlighten you significantly.

[Terraius]

I did not realize there was a more modern nation we were failing to match in terms of adaptation.

Might I suggest taking some world geography courses? They would likely enlighten you significantly.

Could you enlighten me with an example?

[Salandriagado]

Might I suggest taking some world geography courses? They would likely enlighten you significantly.

Could you enlighten me with an example?

It depends on what specific field you are interested in. Name one, and I will produce an example.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Could you enlighten me with an example?

It depends on what specific field you are interested in. Name one, and I will produce an example.

GDP.
...
*snicker*


Anyhow, I think that convo calls for a new thread.

How about that Obama gun-control stuff ya'all?

[Terraius]

Could you enlighten me with an example?

It depends on what specific field you are interested in. Name one, and I will produce an example.

In general. What would they tell me if I decided to educate my otherwise ignorant self by taking 'world geography courses' to find out what other shining beacon of modernism is putting the US to shame?

[Terraius]

It depends on what specific field you are interested in. Name one, and I will produce an example.

GDP.
...
*snicker*


Anyhow, I think that convo calls for a new thread.

How about that Obama gun-control stuff ya'all?

Gun control being claimed a mark of a modern civilization does hold some pertinence to my question

[Salandriagado]

It depends on what specific field you are interested in. Name one, and I will produce an example.

GDP.
...
*snicker*


Anyhow, I think that convo calls for a new thread.

How about that Obama gun-control stuff ya'all?

Luxembourg.

It depends on what specific field you are interested in. Name one, and I will produce an example.

In general. What would they tell me if I decided to educate my otherwise ignorant self by taking 'world geography courses' to find out what other shining beacon of modernism is putting the US to shame?

The answer depends on what metric you are going by. Pick one, any one (or indeed, any set of different metrics) and I'll produce an example.

[Free South Califas]

And what a wondrous militia it was, fighting for justice, equality, and dignity for all peoples.

And your point is that you oppose the American republic?

[Terraius]

The answer depends on what metric you are going by. Pick one, any one (or indeed, any set of different metrics) and I'll produce an example.

Thats just avoiding the question.

Since the question at hand is Gun control as it relates to a modern society, use that as your 'metric'. What country is more modern and advanced that implements a gun control policy superior by your standards to that of the United States.

[Salandriagado]

The answer depends on what metric you are going by. Pick one, any one (or indeed, any set of different metrics) and I'll produce an example.

Thats just avoiding the question.

Since the question at hand is Gun control as it relates to a modern society, use that as your 'metric'. What country is more modern and advanced that implements a gun control policy superior by your standards to that of the United States.

OK, that would be the UK. Next.

[Lessnt]

And your point is that you oppose the American republic?

To use an analogy....
You do not oppose the child being born....but you are against the mother being capable of giving birth?

[Terraius]

Thats just avoiding the question.

Since the question at hand is Gun control as it relates to a modern society, use that as your 'metric'. What country is more modern and advanced that implements a gun control policy superior by your standards to that of the United States.

OK, that would be the UK. Next.

And why would you say that? Crime, culture, what?

[Salandriagado]

OK, that would be the UK. Next.

And why would you say that? Crime, culture, what?

Crime. The purpose of gun control is to prevent crime. I picked a country in western Europe that had a short name. Pick any other and you'll get the same (in fact, most of them are a lot better than the UK in most respects).

[Free South Califas]

To use an analogy....
You do not oppose the child being born....but you are against the mother being capable of giving birth?

Do you think the Civil Rights Movement was composed entirely of traitors?

And why would you say that? Crime, culture, what?

Crime. The purpose of gun control is to prevent crime. I picked a country in western Europe that had a short name. Pick any other and you'll get the same (in fact, most of them are a lot better than the UK in most respects).

Well, to prevent/reduce deadly and especially injurious violent crime, anyway.

[Chernoslavia]

The militia that created the USA could not exist without the gun culture.

And what a wondrous militia it was, fighting for justice, equality, and dignity for all peoples.

Your source reeks of shit. This is now officially the dumbest article I have ever read, you must be really desperate.

[Lessnt]

And why would you say that? Crime, culture, what?

Crime. The purpose of gun control is to prevent crime. I picked a country in western Europe that had a short name. Pick any other and you'll get the same (in fact, most of them are a lot better than the UK in most respects).

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Uni ... ates/Crime

So lets see

In assault victims.
The UK gets it more.
When it comes to brides.
The UK get more.
When it comes to drug offenses...
THe UK gets more....
IT goes on and on...where the crime in the UK is much greater than the USA.

[Bug Out]

Thats just avoiding the question.

Since the question at hand is Gun control as it relates to a modern society, use that as your 'metric'. What country is more modern and advanced that implements a gun control policy superior by your standards to that of the United States.

OK, that would be the UK. Next.

Yep, the old UK. Modern compared to USA standards? Most of their buildings are 300 years old minimum, and they heat with boilers and radiators like we DID in the 50's and 60's. They're still on the Pub rules of the 1940's (or they were when I was there last). The standard of living was almost on par with ours, but not quite. Things might have changed some, but not that much.

[Frisivisia]

Crime. The purpose of gun control is to prevent crime. I picked a country in western Europe that had a short name. Pick any other and you'll get the same (in fact, most of them are a lot better than the UK in most respects).

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Uni ... ates/Crime

So lets see

In assault victims.
The UK gets it more.
When it comes to brides.
The UK get more.
When it comes to drug offenses...
THe UK gets more....
IT goes on and on...where the crime in the UK is much greater than the USA.

Guns also magically stop Internet Piracy. Your source says so.