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by Terran Hegemony » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:44 am
The final victory? There is no such possibility! For men like us, there is nothing but death. There is no victory, only survival, as it is the way of all empires to fall prey to the next one. All we can hope for is... that ours is worth remembering.
by Ashkland » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:45 am
by Danbershan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:47 am
Ashkland wrote:I don't believe in anything supernatural, but I do celebrate holidays/traditions.
So both pretty much.
by Chinese Regions » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:47 am
by Ashkland » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:51 am
North Stradia wrote:Anti-theist.
by Danbershan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:53 am
by The Truth and Light » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:56 am
by Vashtanaraada » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:00 am
by Czechanada » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:00 am
by The USOT » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:00 am
by The USOT » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:02 am
by Ashkland » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:04 am
by Tlaceceyaya » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:05 am
Ashkland wrote:The Truth and Light wrote:How so?
If you say so, I'm pretty sure you didn't read the bible (and yeah, I decided to go and read it),
the most basic: The ten commandments, you know, before those, moral was very low, for example: the Ammons used to sacrifice their first child to the statue-god-like Moloch, as it was their tradition, however after the commandments were spread, it stopped happening.
Now, christianity made the Gregorian Calendar that you are using, and although it is widely known that they were against science in the middle ages, they did develop the math.
Also, Western music and it's notation was founded by the church.
And this is just a very tiny, tiny bit of christianity and judaism's contributions.
Dimitri Tsafendas wrote:You are guilty not only when you commit a crime, but also when you do nothing to prevent it when you have the chance.
by Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:06 am
by Czechanada » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:06 am
Ashkland wrote:The Truth and Light wrote:How so?
If you say so, I'm pretty sure you didn't read the bible (and yeah, I decided to go and read it),
the most basic: The ten commandments, you know, before those, moral was very low, for example: the Ammons used to sacrifice their first child to the statue-god-like Moloch, as it was their tradition, however after the commandments were spread, it stopped happening.
Now, christianity made the Gregorian Calendar that you are using, and although it is widely known that they were against science in the middle ages, they did develop the math.
Also, Western music and it's notation was founded by the church.
And this is just a very tiny, tiny bit of christianity and judaism's contributions.
by Ashkland » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:34 am
Tlaceceyaya wrote:Ashkland wrote:If you say so, I'm pretty sure you didn't read the bible (and yeah, I decided to go and read it),
the most basic: The ten commandments, you know, before those, moral was very low, for example: the Ammons used to sacrifice their first child to the statue-god-like Moloch, as it was their tradition, however after the commandments were spread, it stopped happening.
Now, christianity made the Gregorian Calendar that you are using, and although it is widely known that they were against science in the middle ages, they did develop the math.
Also, Western music and it's notation was founded by the church.
And this is just a very tiny, tiny bit of christianity and judaism's contributions.
1: Sources would be nice.
2: I think you're confusing something happening while christianity is at large with something happening directly because of christianity.
by Ovisterra » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:35 am
Chinese Regions wrote:Atheism isn't a religion, theism isn't either they are beliefs that can be held by religions. It's just so happens that many Atheists are irreligious.
by Tlaceceyaya » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:36 am
Ashkland wrote:Tlaceceyaya wrote:1: Sources would be nice.
2: I think you're confusing something happening while christianity is at large with something happening directly because of christianity.
No. The church people did develop european music in modern sense of the word. Pope Gregory XIII made the gregorian calendar, and
"Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek" Leviticus 18:21
"to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire Molech; which I did not command them, nor did it come into my mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin." Jeremiah 32:35
(Note: Molek, Molech, are other names for Moloch).
"Yes, like patriarchy, anti-science, and love of retribution." - Czechanada.
You know, during the bible's time, patriarchy existed, and were in fact, much more powerful than it was later on (including middle ages).
It was like that nearly everywhere since prehistory.
And religion is not anti-science, though, during Galilei's or Cupernicus's time the catholic church was against those developments, but there were scientists which were themselves religious, and even got rewards from the church, for example Johannes Kepler, he was religious, but a scientist. Also Newton was religious, and the english monarchy gave him a knight title, while the king/queen of the british/english monarchy is the head of the anglican church.
Please please, don't say things you have no idea of.
Dimitri Tsafendas wrote:You are guilty not only when you commit a crime, but also when you do nothing to prevent it when you have the chance.
by Ifreann » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:37 am
The Multiversal Species Alliance wrote:I'm a Harmonist, so theist.
by Mavorpen » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:40 am
Ashkland wrote:Now, christianity made the Gregorian Calendar that you are using, and although it is widely known that they were against science in the middle ages, they did develop the math.
Also, Western music and it's notation was founded by the church.
And this is just a very tiny, tiny bit of christianity and judaism's contributions.
by Ovisterra » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:40 am
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