Fox News hosts lament algebra and history text books

[Gauthier]

The most ironic thing simply being the fact, that Fox News has the balls to call other things 'biased'. Math is some liberal conspiracy? GTFO.

Of course it's a liberal conspiracy. There's an equal sign, for God's sake, how much more proof do you need?

= <---------- THERE is communism. Seeping into the education system, through "mathematics", indoctrinating our children with its commie ways.

And notice how = is usually seen with - as in 4-2= 2? That's redistribution!

[The Emerald Dawn]

How much time do you want to take up explaining to children that An-Caps are fucking idiots?

You do realize, you've inadvertently proven FOX correct. As an educator, your job is to educate people on the ideology, its pro's and con's. Not to proclaim an ideology stupid and then make fun of its believers. Let people decide for themselves.

No. Actually I am not. Because we don't need to "teach the controversy" any more than we have to "expose them to Hep C" to help them understand why it is bad. Some things are, quite easily, dismissed as being horrible fucking ideas.

Creation "Science"
Anarcho-Capitalism
The Ford Pinto
Sticking your penis onto an iron turned to "nuclear fire"
etc.

We don't need to waste precious time, as I've already pointed out above, with talking about every single crackpot theory out there.

[Ralkovia]

You do realize, you've inadvertently proven FOX correct. As an educator, your job is to educate people on the ideology, its pro's and con's. Not to proclaim an ideology stupid and then make fun of its believers. Let people decide for themselves.

If an ideology is stupid, you can't educate someone on it without eventually having to address claims of its stupidity.

For example, in US History we learn about slavery. You don't expect educators to assert that enslavement is a valid economic ideology just to make sure they don't hurt the feelings of pro-slavery students. Slavery is a stupid ideology, and it's pointed out as a stupid ideology.

Slavery is a stupid ideology because it is a violation of human rights. Explain that.
Explain then that, slavery was necessary for developing countries where machines were not available.

[Democratic Koyro]

Can't say im shocked to be honest.

[Ralkovia]

You do realize, you've inadvertently proven FOX correct. As an educator, your job is to educate people on the ideology, its pro's and con's. Not to proclaim an ideology stupid and then make fun of its believers. Let people decide for themselves.

No. Actually I am not. Because we don't need to "teach the controversy" any more than we have to "expose them to Hep C" to help them understand why it is bad. Some things are, quite easily, dismissed as being horrible fucking ideas.

Creation "Science"
Anarcho-Capitalism
The Ford Pinto
Stick your penis onto an iron turned to "nuclear fire"
etc.

We don't need to waste precious time, as I've already pointed out above, with talking about every single crackpot theory out there.

So basically whatever ideology you don't believe in is crackpot? We don't have to spend time distinguishing why a small subset ideology that people won't encounter in their entire life time a theory we have to teach about. But I'd think even FreeSoc would like people to have an actual education on what communism and socialism are and their pros and cons.

[Duvniask]

The most ironic thing simply being the fact, that Fox News has the balls to call other things 'biased'. Math is some liberal conspiracy? GTFO.

Of course it's a liberal conspiracy. There's an equal sign, for God's sake, how much more proof do you need?

= <---------- THERE is communism. Seeping into the education system, through "mathematics", indoctrinating our children with its commie ways.

...And much of it comes from Greece. Oh yes. It's a subliminal message to tell us that they want to ruin the entire economy!

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Of course it's a liberal conspiracy. There's an equal sign, for God's sake, how much more proof do you need?

= <---------- THERE is communism. Seeping into the education system, through "mathematics", indoctrinating our children with its commie ways.

And notice how = is usually seen with - as in 4-2= 2? That's redistribution!

It's the same with those square numbers. You root them, and what do you get? A number! Multiply the result by its equal, and you get the original again! Commie crap.

And then there's squares and other regular polygons. All their angles are equal, like the people in a commie society. And circles. Circles are one. They're unity. Like commies, they stress unity and people coming together as one.

Dear God, opening up a Math textbook is like reading The Communist Manifesto in all its decadent commie filth-glory.

[The Emerald Dawn]

No. Actually I am not. Because we don't need to "teach the controversy" any more than we have to "expose them to Hep C" to help them understand why it is bad. Some things are, quite easily, dismissed as being horrible fucking ideas.

Creation "Science"
Anarcho-Capitalism
The Ford Pinto
Stick your penis onto an iron turned to "nuclear fire"
etc.

We don't need to waste precious time, as I've already pointed out above, with talking about every single crackpot theory out there.

So basically whatever ideology you don't believe in is crackpot?

No, whatever ideology my college professors were able to convince me of the futility of is crackpot. See, we're talking about public schools, not colleges here. Colleges have courses in effective zombie killing techniques. They're businesses, they can run classes on whatever they can get students to sign up for.

[Agymnum]

If an ideology is stupid, you can't educate someone on it without eventually having to address claims of its stupidity.

For example, in US History we learn about slavery. You don't expect educators to assert that enslavement is a valid economic ideology just to make sure they don't hurt the feelings of pro-slavery students. Slavery is a stupid ideology, and it's pointed out as a stupid ideology.

Slavery is a stupid ideology because it is a violation of human rights. Explain that.
Explain then that, slavery was necessary for developing countries where machines were not available.

Slavery was never necessary. It simply developed because economic development outpaced social development (i.e. we developed weapons and luxury goods before developing concepts such as human rights), and thus the idea came about of taking advantage of specific groups (i.e prisoners, ethnic groups, the poor) to further economic development.

If social development had been paced properly (rather than being ignored until the fucking Enlightenment), slavery might not have ever come to the United States. Hell, Europe mostly abandoned slavery by the eve of the Civil War, so the only excuse we had to use it was because we refused to experiment with other economic systems.

[Death Metal]

And notice how = is usually seen with - as in 4-2= 2? That's redistribution!

It's the same with those square numbers. You root them, and what do you get? A number! Multiply the result by its equal, and you get the original again! Commie crap.

And then there's squares and other regular polygons. All their angles are equal, like the people in a commie society. And circles. Circles are one. They're unity. Like commies, they stress unity and people coming together as one.

Dear God, opening up a Math textbook is like reading The Communist Manifesto in all its decadent commie filth-glory.

And you know what country's students scores high in Math? CHINA! WHY? BECAUSE THEY ARE COMMIES! WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED?!!?!

[Dilange]

So basically whatever ideology you don't believe in is crackpot?

No, whatever ideology my college professors were able to convince me of the futility of is crackpot. See, we're talking about public schools, not colleges here. Colleges have courses in effective zombie killing techniques. They're businesses, they can run classes on whatever they can get students to sign up for.

I have to say ZOMB 210: Doomsday Scenarios was very amusing.

[Individuality-ness]

It's the same with those square numbers. You root them, and what do you get? A number! Multiply the result by its equal, and you get the original again! Commie crap.

And then there's squares and other regular polygons. All their angles are equal, like the people in a commie society. And circles. Circles are one. They're unity. Like commies, they stress unity and people coming together as one.

Dear God, opening up a Math textbook is like reading The Communist Manifesto in all its decadent commie filth-glory.

And you know what country's students scores high in Math? CHINA! WHY? BECAUSE THEY ARE COMMIES! WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED?!!?!

BURN ALL THE BOOKS!!!!

[Ralkovia]

So basically whatever ideology you don't believe in is crackpot?

No, whatever ideology my college professors were able to convince me of the futility of is crackpot. See, we're talking about public schools, not colleges here. Colleges have courses in effective zombie killing techniques. They're businesses, they can run classes on whatever they can get students to sign up for.

Exactly, hence why we shouldn't pay attention to ideologies that we'll never encounter ever if your just going to graduate from High School. But let's not just call an entire ideology stupid without explaining why its stupid. Anarcho-capitalism doesn't work, explain it like that. Not "It's stupid. You're stupid if you believe it."

[Gauthier]

And you know what country's students scores high in Math? CHINA! WHY? BECAUSE THEY ARE COMMIES! WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED?!!?!

BURN ALL THE BOOKS!!!!

MATH IS COMMUNISM!!

[The Emerald Dawn]

No, whatever ideology my college professors were able to convince me of the futility of is crackpot. See, we're talking about public schools, not colleges here. Colleges have courses in effective zombie killing techniques. They're businesses, they can run classes on whatever they can get students to sign up for.

Exactly, hence why we shouldn't pay attention to ideologies that we'll never encounter ever if your just going to graduate from High School. But let's not just call an entire ideology stupid without explaining why its stupid. Anarcho-capitalism doesn't work, explain it like that. Not "It's stupid. You're stupid if you believe it."

Right, you're fighting a completely different battle. I'll leave you alone on your field where you can rage against the evils all by yourself. Call if you need lemonade.

[Individuality-ness]

BURN ALL THE BOOKS!!!!

MATH IS COMMUNISM!!

SCIENCE IS THE TOOL FOR GODLESS HEATHENS!!!

[Bleckonia]

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

And you know what country's students scores high in Math? CHINA! WHY? BECAUSE THEY ARE COMMIES! WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED?!!?!

BURN ALL THE BOOKS!!!!

No. Commies burn flags, because they hate their nations. Therefore burning things is communist. Therefore take all the math books, give them to the Book Publishing industry, and get all the pages cleaned of ink before reprinting them as Bibles and copies of Atlas Shrugged. It's the only way, and it's helping the Job Creators^TM and Wealth Creators^TM to create jobs and wealth!

[Ceannairceach]

I actually draw problems with economics. They only seem to teach Keynsian economics at high school level.

I agree, actually, having looked into some classes. My own AP teacher was very, very biased towards the Republican perspective, though

That, trickle-down economics, and the defense of Reagan made me take the class with a grain of salt.

[Gauthier]

BURN ALL THE BOOKS!!!!

No. Commies burn flags, because they hate their nations. Therefore burning things is communist. Therefore take all the math books, give them to the Book Publishing industry, and get all the pages cleaned of ink before reprinting them as Bibles and copies of Atlas Shrugged. It's the only way.

YOU'RE CALLING FOR THE REDISTRIBUTION OF BOOKS!? PINKO!! *points*

[Ralkovia]

Slavery is a stupid ideology because it is a violation of human rights. Explain that.
Explain then that, slavery was necessary for developing countries where machines were not available.

Slavery was never necessary. It simply developed because economic development outpaced social development (i.e. we developed weapons and luxury goods before developing concepts such as human rights), and thus the idea came about of taking advantage of specific groups (i.e prisoners, ethnic groups, the poor) to further economic development.

If social development had been paced properly (rather than being ignored until the fucking Enlightenment), slavery might not have ever come to the United States. Hell, Europe mostly abandoned slavery by the eve of the Civil War, so the only excuse we had to use it was because we refused to experiment with other economic systems.

Not really. Slavery is a cost effective way of labor. Machines are more effective. Hence why slavery was prominent part of the World for millenia.

At the time of the Enlightenment, Europe didn't need slavery anymore. Before hand it had kept slaves as "serfs."

[Laerod]

If an ideology is stupid, you can't educate someone on it without eventually having to address claims of its stupidity.

For example, in US History we learn about slavery. You don't expect educators to assert that enslavement is a valid economic ideology just to make sure they don't hurt the feelings of pro-slavery students. Slavery is a stupid ideology, and it's pointed out as a stupid ideology.

Slavery is a stupid ideology because it is a violation of human rights. Explain that.
Explain then that, slavery was necessary for developing countries where machines were not available.

Oh wow.

[Agymnum]

I actually draw problems with economics. They only seem to teach Keynsian economics at high school level.

I agree, actually. My AP teacher was very, very biased towards the Republican perspective as well.

Strangely enough, mine was the opposite. Mine taught Keynesian economics but was biased toward Democrats. Only nice thing she had to say about Romney was that he "looked presidential".

[Ceannairceach]

Slavery was never necessary. It simply developed because economic development outpaced social development (i.e. we developed weapons and luxury goods before developing concepts such as human rights), and thus the idea came about of taking advantage of specific groups (i.e prisoners, ethnic groups, the poor) to further economic development.

If social development had been paced properly (rather than being ignored until the fucking Enlightenment), slavery might not have ever come to the United States. Hell, Europe mostly abandoned slavery by the eve of the Civil War, so the only excuse we had to use it was because we refused to experiment with other economic systems.

Not really. Slavery is a cost effective way of labor. Machines are more effective. Hence why slavery was prominent part of the World for millenia.

At the time of the Enlightenment, Europe didn't need slavery anymore. Before hand it had kept slaves as "serfs."

Slavery is actually very inefficient as to costs. It costs far more to satisfactorily keep a person alive than it does to pay them minimum page.

[Ralkovia]

Slavery is a stupid ideology because it is a violation of human rights. Explain that.
Explain then that, slavery was necessary for developing countries where machines were not available.

Oh wow.

Slavery isn't a violation of human rights?