Fox News hosts lament algebra and history text books

[Ovisterra]

Because abstinence obviously is the better solution, amirite?

I edited the post.

So if you don't want abstinence-only education, and you don't want comprehensive sex education, what do you want?

[Faolinn]

The only difference is now that history books are getting more objective and to be frank, my only gripe about algebra is that it's horribly dull and largely useless to most people.Unless you plan on becoming an engineer, a math teacher, some manner of physicist or such, then you don't need a lot of it. How the hell can algebra be biased anyway? Anyway, I consider this Fox News acting insane once more...What in the name of all the Gods, spirits, saintly mortals, and earthly logic is wrong with these people?

[The Fourth Khaganate]

They only seem to teach Keynsian economics at high school level.

This can actually be explained by the fact that Economics in High School only tends to touch on the Economics that the US uses. Some other methods are mentioned, but the whole point of the course is to go into how the US'es economy works.

[Boddom]

Oh c'mon are you really surprised? These are the same people who said they don't care what the 'fact-checkers' think during the election.
Even conservatives (those who live in reality anyway) have to admit that Fox News is in the business of propaganda not news.

The fact is all of the worlds media outlets tailor their stories to fit their own political view 's and the vast majority of them are typically leftwing for some reason. There is no such thing as unbiased news if there is such a thing as unbiased reporting or an unbiased news program that you know of pleaase be kind enough to let me know who they are.

[AiliailiA]

They only seem to teach Keynsian economics at high school level.

This can actually be explained by the fact that Economics in High School only tends to touch on the Economics that the US uses. Some other methods are mentioned, but the whole point of the course is to go into how the US'es economy works.

Is that a compulsory course?

I never had the option to study Economics in HS. Just compound interest (general maths) and hyperinflation in Weimar Germany (modern history). It was mentioned in a very shallow way in General Studies, as background to current political debate. Though I liked maths I probably wouldn't have taken an Economics course as an option. I wasn't even very interested in statistical maths, though in retrospect that's been the most useful of the maths that I learned.

[AiliailiA]

Oh c'mon are you really surprised? These are the same people who said they don't care what the 'fact-checkers' think during the election.
Even conservatives (those who live in reality anyway) have to admit that Fox News is in the business of propaganda not news.

The fact is all of the worlds media outlets tailor their stories to fit their own political view 's and the vast majority of them are typically leftwing for some reason.

Wrong on both counts. Media outlets tailor their stories to suit their viewer/reader. And the vast majority of them are (a) lowbrow, and (b) reactive.

If media seems generally left-wing to you, you're probably way out on the crazy right wing. As a moderately left-wing person myself, I find mainstream media right wing.

There is no such thing as unbiased news if there is such a thing as unbiased reporting or an unbiased news program that you know of pleaase be kind enough to let me know who they are.

You don't need that. You need a range of sources with differing biases so you can detect bias and adjust for it.

[Trotskylvania]

The fact is all of the worlds media outlets tailor their stories to fit their own political view 's and the vast majority of them are typically leftwing for some reason.

Wrong on both counts. Media outlets tailor their stories to suit their viewer/reader. And the vast majority of them are (a) lowbrow, and (b) reactive.

If media seems generally left-wing to you, you're probably way out on the crazy right wing. As a moderately left-wing person myself, I find mainstream media right wing.

There is no such thing as unbiased news if there is such a thing as unbiased reporting or an unbiased news program that you know of pleaase be kind enough to let me know who they are.

You don't need that. You need a range of sources with differing biases so you can detect bias and adjust for it.

More importantly, they don't care about your satisfaction. They only want your attention, even if you hate them for it. Because they are in the business of selling audiences to advertisers, not the news to you.

[Forsher]

This can actually be explained by the fact that Economics in High School only tends to touch on the Economics that the US uses. Some other methods are mentioned, but the whole point of the course is to go into how the US'es economy works.

Is that a compulsory course?

I never had the option to study Economics in HS. Just compound interest (general maths) and hyperinflation in Weimar Germany (modern history). It was mentioned in a very shallow way in General Studies, as background to current political debate. Though I liked maths I probably wouldn't have taken an Economics course as an option. I wasn't even very interested in statistical maths, though in retrospect that's been the most useful of the maths that I learned.

The maths content of what we do in Economics is questionable. We might look at some data for internals (for example, unemployment rates) and indeed something I found back then I keep presenting here on NSG. You'd be amazed how many people think the workforce is split fifty/fifty into males and females. We also muck about with excel to create graphical forms of data (for example,

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In Australia, New Zealand's biggest export market, the number of people employed rose by 14,500, the biggest increase since May, the statistics bureau in Sydney said.
The better-than-expected data has pared bets the Reserve Bank of Australia will reduce its benchmark interest rate by another quarter of a percentage point next month. Last week the RBA cut interest rates 25 basis points to 3.25 percent, citing weaker commodity prices in the a global market where the outlook for the economic growth "has softened".
Note, seems to be (http://www.rba.gov.au/statistics/cash-rate/) just called the cash rate.
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There were 1601 listings but the numbers were slightly skewed as jobs with fewer than 10 vacancies, or which did not fit in one of Trade Me's categories, were not included.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news ... d=10834585
The New Zealand economy grew at a faster-than-expected clip in the second quarter, driven by record milk production and increased building activity, while growth in the first quarter was trimmed back.
Gross domestic product grew 0.6 per cent in the three months ended June 30, from a 1 per cent pace in the first three months of the year, a revision from the previously published 1.1 per cent, according to Statistics New Zealand. Growth of 0.3 per cent had been expected in the second quarter, according to a Reuters survey.
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For months the Federal Reserve has been priming the US economy by printing money. In financial terms it's like giving a drunk more booze to wean him off last night's hangover.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news ... d=10839803
The BNZ-BusinessNZ performance of manufacturing index (PMI) rose to 48.2 last month from 47.2 in August, indicating the pace of contraction is slowing. A level of 50 marks the difference between contraction and expansion. Four of the five seasonally adjusted diffusion indexes were in contraction in September.
New orders slipped 2 points to 45.9. Employment edged up 3.7 points to 49.2 alongside production and deliveries though all three remained in contraction. Finished stocks bucked the trend on 50.6, its first expansion since May 2012.
Tuesday's quarterly New Zealand Institute of Economic Research business survey showed manufacturers held a "fairly solid" view of their business over the next 12 months. Manufacturers' expectations for output over the next three months rose to 17 points from 9 points.
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The REINZ Housing Price Index increased 0.6 per cent in September from August to sit at 3,442.1, a new record high.
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"The traditional rush of spring listings has not eventuated this year and the market is tightening as buyers face a limited choice of offerings.
ASB economist Jane Turner described the housing market as tight, particularly in Auckland and Canterbury where inventory levels are now "extremely low".
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0.9 percent during the 2010s
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news ... d=10836274
Containment policies such as smart growth and Auckland's metropolitan urban limit were found by the commission to be the root of the problem, crippling new housing supply by limiting land availability.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news ... d=10836023
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"But why did the average section price increase four times more than the average income between 1992 and 2012? Not double. Not three times more."

Basically, not much to do at all.

In theory we need to be able to create indexes (such as CPIs). Which if I can remember is basically current/first x 100. Or a thousand, depends how accurate you want the index to be. But that didn't happen like that.

The externals, well, they were basically maths free. Both years. Inflation. Trade. Growth. And last year's. Demand. Supply. The Market. All PDFs of the exams I actually sat. I got a 27 for Demand which is one of my best so, yeah. (The results for the 2012 round of exams are yet to be released.)

Note, we do not get told what sort of economics this is... I couldn't tell you if I wanted to.

[Faolinn]

This can actually be explained by the fact that Economics in High School only tends to touch on the Economics that the US uses. Some other methods are mentioned, but the whole point of the course is to go into how the US'es economy works.

Is that a compulsory course?

I never had the option to study Economics in HS. Just compound interest (general maths) and hyperinflation in Weimar Germany (modern history). It was mentioned in a very shallow way in General Studies, as background to current political debate. Though I liked maths I probably wouldn't have taken an Economics course as an option. I wasn't even very interested in statistical maths, though in retrospect that's been the most useful of the maths that I learned.

Pretty much.We mention and discuss some general mechanisms, we talk about other forms, and then we spend most of the time focusing on the American brand of capitalism.High school economics classes are a joke in here in the U.S.

[Gauthier]

Oh c'mon are you really surprised? These are the same people who said they don't care what the 'fact-checkers' think during the election.
Even conservatives (those who live in reality anyway) have to admit that Fox News is in the business of propaganda not news.

The fact is all of the worlds media outlets tailor their stories to fit their own political view 's and the vast majority of them are typically leftwing for some reason. There is no such thing as unbiased news if there is such a thing as unbiased reporting or an unbiased news program that you know of pleaase be kind enough to let me know who they are.

Actual news media don't fabricate blatant lies and pass them off as facts (Embarassing Republicans conveniently labelled (D), palm trees growing in Wisconsin) either.

[Esternial]

Eric Bolling can't work a calculator, so clearly it's obvious that he doesn't understand what algebra really is.

[Sorgloss]

If one disagrees with various ideas about distribution, I would think they should absolutely be taught to children.

"It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." ~Sun Tzu

Why wait for the kids to go to college, be confronted with a world they didn't know existed, and then reject everything they've been taught previously? One should ease the child into the world, not abandon him to it.

[New Chalcedon]

Eric Bolling can't work a calculator, so clearly it's obvious that he doesn't understand what algebra really is.

Eric Bolling probably can't count past 10 with his shoes on, so let's be easy on the poor dunce.

[Ifreann]

Eric Bolling can't work a calculator, so clearly it's obvious that he doesn't understand what algebra really is.

Eric Bolling probably can't count past 10 with his shoes on, so let's be easy on the poor dunce.

Know who else used letters for numbers? The Romans. Know what the Romans did? Killed Jesus. ALGEBRA IS ANTI-CHRISTIAN!

[Esternial]

Eric Bolling probably can't count past 10 with his shoes on, so let's be easy on the poor dunce.

Know who else used letters for numbers? The Romans. Know what the Romans did? Killed Jesus. ALGEBRA IS ANTI-CHRISTIAN!

x = atheist?

[Gauthier]

Eric Bolling probably can't count past 10 with his shoes on, so let's be easy on the poor dunce.

Know who else used letters for numbers? The Romans. Know what the Romans did? Killed Jesus. ALGEBRA IS ANTI-CHRISTIAN!

The Romans used math to find out how many Christians a day they could feed to lions for maximum entertainment value after all. *nod*

[San-Silvacian]

I <3 Fox News.

[Gauthier]

I <3 Fox News.

I <3 Karl Rove's Election Night meltdown on FOXNews.

[Unchecked Expansion]

Know who else used letters for numbers? The Romans. Know what the Romans did? Killed Jesus. ALGEBRA IS ANTI-CHRISTIAN!

Romans would be really bad at algebra. Whenever you asked them to solve for X, they'd always give the same answer

[Chronic Hypersomnia]

I agree with faux news.

They're on the right track for the good of the capitalism that was given to us by god.

[Vareiln]

Oh c'mon are you really surprised? These are the same people who said they don't care what the 'fact-checkers' think during the election.
Even conservatives (those who live in reality anyway) have to admit that Fox News is in the business of propaganda not news.

The fact is all of the worlds media outlets tailor their stories to fit their own political view 's and the vast majority of them are typically leftwing for some reason. There is no such thing as unbiased news if there is such a thing as unbiased reporting or an unbiased news program that you know of pleaase be kind enough to let me know who they are.

I love how this argument is supposed to justify Fox News in some way.

[Hatsunia]

I edited the post.

So if you don't want abstinence-only education, and you don't want comprehensive sex education, what do you want?

I didn't say I was against comprehensive sex ed, I was just saying that was what made a school "liberal".

[The Fourth Khaganate]

Is that a compulsory course?

I never had the option to study Economics in HS. Just compound interest (general maths) and hyperinflation in Weimar Germany (modern history). It was mentioned in a very shallow way in General Studies, as background to current political debate. Though I liked maths I probably wouldn't have taken an Economics course as an option. I wasn't even very interested in statistical maths, though in retrospect that's been the most useful of the maths that I learned.

Yeah, it was compulsory. Granted, we never had anything as advanced as studying compound interest and hyperinflation in HS, but Europe's different. We don't even have Religion classes in most High Schools here.

[Agymnum]

Is that a compulsory course?

I never had the option to study Economics in HS. Just compound interest (general maths) and hyperinflation in Weimar Germany (modern history). It was mentioned in a very shallow way in General Studies, as background to current political debate. Though I liked maths I probably wouldn't have taken an Economics course as an option. I wasn't even very interested in statistical maths, though in retrospect that's been the most useful of the maths that I learned.

Yeah, it was compulsory. Granted, we never had anything as advanced as studying compound interest and hyperinflation in HS, but Europe's different. We don't even have Religion classes in most High Schools here.

Here in California we don't have any religious classes. In fact, I don't think public schools are allowed to legally have religious classes, as that violates Separation of Church and State clause in the Constitution.

[Ruridova]

I thought FOX News could not get any dumber before I heard this. I now know I was wrong.