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Which one of these things have a liberal bias?

Mathematics
43
7%
Biology
49
8%
Chemistry
40
6%
Religion
45
7%
History
70
11%
Anthropology
63
10%
Sociology
80
13%
Economics
57
9%
Reality
174
28%
 
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:15 pm

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4years wrote:
Of course not, I am a communist for god's sake.

Oh, I thought you were a reactionary. Forgive me.

Would you object to the teaching of anarchocapitalism in schools?


I wouldn't object to the principles of it being explained in schools.

Because explaining it makes it obvious how utterly stupid it is.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:16 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
4years wrote:
Of course not, I am a communist for god's sake.

Oh, I thought you were a reactionary. Forgive me.

Would you object to the teaching of anarchocapitalism in schools?

I think its stupid myself, but I wouldn't mind it being taught.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:16 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Oh, I thought you were a reactionary. Forgive me.

Would you object to the teaching of anarchocapitalism in schools?

I wouldn't object to the principles of it being explained in schools.

Because explaining it makes it obvious how utterly stupid it is.

But under that argument we should teach creationism in school just to show them how stupid it is... and then... and then... :O
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:17 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Oh, I thought you were a reactionary. Forgive me.

Would you object to the teaching of anarchocapitalism in schools?


I wouldn't object to the principles of it being explained in schools.

Because explaining it makes it obvious how utterly stupid it is.
Genivaria wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Oh, I thought you were a reactionary. Forgive me.

Would you object to the teaching of anarchocapitalism in schools?

I think its stupid myself, but I wouldn't mind it being taught.

Well then, World Economic Theory it is!

I'm fairly certain that this is taught in some places, now, anyway.
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Postby Pacifistic Union » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:17 pm

That's a bit... saddening. No, maybe maddening. Or both. I can't decide!
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:17 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:I wouldn't object to the principles of it being explained in schools.

Because explaining it makes it obvious how utterly stupid it is.

But under that argument we should teach creationism in school just to show them how stupid it is... and then... and then... :O


No, because creationism isn't a scientific theory and hence has no place being taught as a scientific theory alongside scientific theories.

Anarcho-capitalism, bloody stupid as it is, is an economic theory, and hence ought to be taught in economics classes.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:18 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Oh, I thought you were a reactionary. Forgive me.

Would you object to the teaching of anarchocapitalism in schools?

I think its stupid myself, but I wouldn't mind it being taught.

You have 8 hours with which to educate the future generations. 50 minutes of those 8 hours are taken up in between-class breaks. 45 additional minutes are taken up in lunch. 50 more are taken up in (increasingly mandatory) physical education. So out of 480 minutes, you have now removed 145. That leaves you with 335 minutes of education.

How much time do you want to take up explaining to children that An-Caps are fucking idiots?

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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:18 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:I wouldn't object to the principles of it being explained in schools.

Because explaining it makes it obvious how utterly stupid it is.

But under that argument we should teach creationism in school just to show them how stupid it is... and then... and then... :O

The problem is that non-Keynesian economics, while incorrect, are still able to dispute. Creationism is ridiculous pseudo-science.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:19 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I think its stupid myself, but I wouldn't mind it being taught.

You have 8 hours with which to educate the future generations. 50 minutes of those 8 hours are taken up in between-class breaks. 45 additional minutes are taken up in lunch. 50 more are taken up in (increasingly mandatory) physical education. So out of 480 minutes, you have now removed 145. That leaves you with 335 minutes of education.

How much time do you want to take up explaining to children that An-Caps are fucking idiots?

Point taken. Also that might be constituted as flaming.
Actually I think that it would be possible as an Economic college course.
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Postby Camicon » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:19 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I think its stupid myself, but I wouldn't mind it being taught.

You have 8 hours with which to educate the future generations. 50 minutes of those 8 hours are taken up in between-class breaks. 45 additional minutes are taken up in lunch. 50 more are taken up in (increasingly mandatory) physical education. So out of 480 minutes, you have now removed 145. That leaves you with 335 minutes of education.

How much time do you want to take up explaining to children that An-Caps are fucking idiots?

Emphasis mine.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:21 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:You have 8 hours with which to educate the future generations. 50 minutes of those 8 hours are taken up in between-class breaks. 45 additional minutes are taken up in lunch. 50 more are taken up in (increasingly mandatory) physical education. So out of 480 minutes, you have now removed 145. That leaves you with 335 minutes of education.

How much time do you want to take up explaining to children that An-Caps are fucking idiots?

Point taken. Also that might be constituted as flaming.

Doubtful.

The larger point is, we have precious little time in American schools, because we refuse to modernize our ever-increasingly outdated educational model. We can't waste what little time we're allowed on fantastical and wildly idiotic nonsense.

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Postby Cascavia » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:21 pm

Sounds like WKTT

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:21 pm

Camicon wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:You have 8 hours with which to educate the future generations. 50 minutes of those 8 hours are taken up in between-class breaks. 45 additional minutes are taken up in lunch. 50 more are taken up in (increasingly mandatory) physical education. So out of 480 minutes, you have now removed 145. That leaves you with 335 minutes of education.

How much time do you want to take up explaining to children that An-Caps are fucking idiots?

Emphasis mine.
You say that like it's a bad thing.

At my high school PE we spent half the period sitting on our asses while the 'coaches' talked to each other.
Nice. :palm:

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Postby Death Metal » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:22 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Oh, I thought you were a reactionary. Forgive me.

Would you object to the teaching of anarchocapitalism in schools?


I wouldn't object to the principles of it being explained in schools.

Because explaining it makes it obvious how utterly stupid it is.


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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:22 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:For the lulz?

I was going to say "because it's correct", but yeah, that too.

Being right is fine, and all, but being right and getting someone's panties in a horrible twist is where it's at. :nod:
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Postby Camicon » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:22 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Camicon wrote:Emphasis mine.
You say that like it's a bad thing.

At my high school PE we spent half the period sitting on our asses while the 'coaches' talked to each other.
Nice. :palm:

Just because you had crappy PE classes, that doesn't invalidate their importance.
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Postby 4years » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:22 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
4years wrote:
Of course not, I am a communist for god's sake.

Oh, I thought you were a reactionary. Forgive me.

Would you object to the teaching of anarchocapitalism in schools?


Not particularly as I beleive in allowing people to accumulate as broad a knowledge base as possible and obtain accurate information about all ideologies. I would obviously object to anarcho-capitalism being the only ideology taught in schools. My vision for schools is of centers of object information; that is to say that students would be taught what ideologies, such as communism and anarcho-capitalism, are without one being held out as 'correct'.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:23 pm

I hated math but not because of its political leanings...

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:23 pm

4years wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Would you object to the teaching of communism in schools?


Of course not, I am a communist for god's sake.

Are you Ralkovia?
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:24 pm

Camicon wrote:
Genivaria wrote:At my high school PE we spent half the period sitting on our asses while the 'coaches' talked to each other.
Nice. :palm:

Just because you had crappy PE classes, that doesn't invalidate their importance.

No that wasn't my meaning. My point was that not ENOUGH emphasis is put on physical education.
I wasn't complaining about HAVING PE class, I was complaining that it was pointless because they didn't even bother.

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Postby Agymnum » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:25 pm

Schools teach reality. If that's too left for you, it's probably not the schools that are in the wrong here.
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Postby Camicon » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:25 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Camicon wrote:Just because you had crappy PE classes, that doesn't invalidate their importance.

No that wasn't my meaning. My point was that not ENOUGH emphasis is put on physical education.
I wasn't complaining about HAVING PE class, I was complaining that it was pointless because they didn't even bother.

Ah. My mistake.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:25 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:But under that argument we should teach creationism in school just to show them how stupid it is... and then... and then... :O

No, because creationism isn't a scientific theory and hence has no place being taught as a scientific theory alongside scientific theories.

Anarcho-capitalism, bloody stupid as it is, is an economic theory, and hence ought to be taught in economics classes.

True. Should we have classes teaching Objectivist theory as well, if only to educate people on how stupid it is?

Frisivisia wrote:The problem is that non-Keynesian economics, while incorrect, are still able to dispute. Creationism is ridiculous pseudo-science.

Conceded, although I did already agree with you.
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Postby Mactovera » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:25 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Ralkovia wrote:
I actually draw problems with economics. They only seem to teach Keynsian economics at high school level.

For the same reason they only teach evolution.

They aren't allowed to teach creation in public schools... Evolution makes sense, and creation agrees with it, to a fault.

Back on topic. I find Fox incredibly dimwitted. Of course everything is liberally biased, because the Democrats have a senate majority. And republicans in power are making themselves look stupid. But I digress...
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Postby 4years » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:26 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
4years wrote:
Of course not, I am a communist for god's sake.

Are you Ralkovia?

No.
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