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Mali asks France for help against extremists

Postby Fransikania » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:24 am

Mali's president on Thursday asked France for help countering an offensive by extremist groups who control the northern half of the country and are heading south.

France's UN ambassador, Gerard Araud, told reporters after an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council that urgent action is needed against the groups who captured the city of Konna on Thursday and are currently threatening the city of Mopti, which has 100,000 inhabitants.

"This terrorist attack weakens even more the stability of Mali and thereby that of its neighbors," he said. "Sustainability of the Malian government and the protection of civilian populations are now at stake."

Araud said Mali's President Dioncounda Traore sent a letter to Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, which he transmitted to the Security Council, and a similar letter to French President Francois Hollande seeking assistance from France, the country's former colonial power, against the offensive.

"It's up to the authorities of my country to decide and announce the nature of this assistance," Araud said. "It will be announced in Paris tomorrow."

'Grave concern'

The Security Council expressed "grave concern" at the military action by the extremist groups and called on UN member states "to provide assistance to the Malian Defencse and Security Forces in order to reduce the threat posed by terrorist organizations and associated groups."

Araud said council resolutions "call on all member states to provide assistance in resolving the Malian crisis in all its aspects, including military and political — and I emphasize — to provide support to the authorities of this country to put an end to the terrorist threat."

Mali was plunged into turmoil after a coup in March 2012 created a security vacuum. That allowed the secular Tuaregs, who have long felt marginalized by Mali's government, to take half the north as a new homeland. But months later, the rebels were kicked out by Islamist groups allied with al-Qaeda, which have imposed strict Shariah law throughout the north.

Late last year, the 15 nations in West Africa, including Mali, agreed on a proposal for the military to take back the north, and sought backing from the United Nations.

The Security Council in December authorized an African-led force to support Malian forces in recovering the north — an area the size of Texas — but set no timeline for military action. Instead, it set out benchmarks to be met before the start of offensive operations, beginning with progress on a political roadmap to restore constitutional order, political reconciliation, elections and training of the Malian and African troops and police.

The Security Council called for "the immediate issuance of an agreed political roadmap, which includes serious negotiations with non-extremist Malians in the north and presses for the full restoration of democratic governance."


http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013 ... mists.html



So what do you think should the French help Mali ?



and before anybody starts with France have never won a war and all that crap the fact is this since 1100 France has fought around 68 wars. Winning 45, lost 17 and 6 draws
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Postby Benutanairan » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:25 am

Once again my countrymen will have to be involved with its former colonies, which ofcourse I am inherently against since France should worry about the economy than Africa.
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Postby United Dependencies » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:42 am

I believe the French have just announced that they have put boots on the ground.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20991719
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Postby Benutanairan » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:45 am

United Dependencies wrote:I believe the French have just announced that they have put boots on the ground.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20991719


Damn Hollande and his foolish bragging.
Oh well looks like were in another intervention....again.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:59 am

It isn't France's responsibility. Mali needs to have the strength to overcome it's own problems
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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:24 am

Hey France, while you're at it, why don't you stop assailing Assad and help Syria defend itself against other Al Qaeda insurgents, hmm?
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Postby Risottia » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:26 am

Fransikania wrote:So what do you think should the French help Mali ?

No.

The AU and the UN should. France can give its contribute as part of a UN mission.
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Postby Benutanairan » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:31 am

Pope Joan wrote:Hey France, while you're at it, why don't you stop assailing Assad and help Syria defend itself against other Al Qaeda insurgents, hmm?


I among others don't give a shit about the Syrian situation.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:32 am

Benutanairan wrote:Once again my countrymen will have to be involved with its former colonies, which ofcourse I am inherently against since France should worry about the economy than Africa.

Why do people think that countries are incapable of multitasking? Does France do foreign relations? Does France do education? Does France do ... I don't know, pick one. If you answered yes to two or more of these questions, sacrebleu! C'est le multitasking!
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Postby Benutanairan » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:34 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:Once again my countrymen will have to be involved with its former colonies, which ofcourse I am inherently against since France should worry about the economy than Africa.

Why do people think that countries are incapable of multitasking? Does France do foreign relations? Does France do education? Does France do ... I don't know, pick one. If you answered yes to two or more of these questions, sacrebleu! C'est le multitasking!


Frankly why should I have to worry about a bunch of people in Mali when improvement of the French education system is much more important alongside revamping of the immigration system.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:34 am

Benutanairan wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Hey France, while you're at it, why don't you stop assailing Assad and help Syria defend itself against other Al Qaeda insurgents, hmm?


I among others don't give a shit about the Syrian situation.



If Assad can stay in power, good for him. If the rebels overthrow the government then good for them.
Whoever wins will deserve their victory.

If the rebels can convince the French to come to their aid then they earned such aid.
If the regime can convince the Russians to come to their aid then they earned such aid.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:34 am

Benutanairan wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Why do people think that countries are incapable of multitasking? Does France do foreign relations? Does France do education? Does France do ... I don't know, pick one. If you answered yes to two or more of these questions, sacrebleu! C'est le multitasking!


Frankly why should I have to worry about a bunch of people in Mali when improvement of the French education system is much more important.


Why can't France do both?
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Postby Benutanairan » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:35 am

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:
I among others don't give a shit about the Syrian situation.



If Assad can stay in power, good for him. If the rebels overthrow the government then good for them.
Whoever wins will deserve their victory.

If the rebels can convince the French to come to their aid then they earned such aid.
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I'd hope Hollande will be reasonable about Syria.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:36 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:
Frankly why should I have to worry about a bunch of people in Mali when improvement of the French education system is much more important.


Why can't France do both?


They can, but they shouldn't. What's the purpose of having the UN and the AU if countries needing help revert to bilateral relationships?
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:36 am

Benutanairan wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:

If Assad can stay in power, good for him. If the rebels overthrow the government then good for them.
Whoever wins will deserve their victory.

If the rebels can convince the French to come to their aid then they earned such aid.
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I'd hope Hollande will be reasonable about Syria.


And what would he do if he was reasonable?
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Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:
Frankly why should I have to worry about a bunch of people in Mali when improvement of the French education system is much more important.


Why can't France do both?


Well lets put it this way

You can't make a war pie and focus on an education pie, if you produce aircraft you take away money from education. France doesn't have a massive potential like the US and China.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:38 am

Benutanairan wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Why can't France do both?


Well lets put it this way

You can't make a war pie and focus on an education pie, if you produce aircraft you take away money from education. France doesn't have a massive potential like the US and China.


If your a good leader and have strong will you shuld be able to do both.
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Postby Benutanairan » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:39 am

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:
Well lets put it this way

You can't make a war pie and focus on an education pie, if you produce aircraft you take away money from education. France doesn't have a massive potential like the US and China.


If your a good leader and have strong will you shuld be able to do both.



This is hollande were talking about... if anything just let the legion deal with It since they seem to be fighting in Africa recently.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:40 am

Risottia wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Why can't France do both?


They can, but they shouldn't. What's the purpose of having the UN and the AU if countries needing help revert to bilateral relationships?


The UN and AU are both incompetent. To rely on them is to rely on a rusty old ship full of holes.
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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:40 am

Benutanairan wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Hey France, while you're at it, why don't you stop assailing Assad and help Syria defend itself against other Al Qaeda insurgents, hmm?


I among others don't give a shit about the Syrian situation.


The BBC does. It leads almost every hourly broadcast.
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Postby Benutanairan » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:41 am

Pope Joan wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:
I among others don't give a shit about the Syrian situation.


The BBC does. It leads almost every hourly broadcast.


Does the BBC have nothing better to do.
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Postby Caninope » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:00 pm

Benutanairan wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Why can't France do both?


Well lets put it this way

You can't make a war pie and focus on an education pie, if you produce aircraft you take away money from education. France doesn't have a massive potential like the US and China.

The budget isn't a binary thing.
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Postby Caninope » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:00 pm

Benutanairan wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:
The BBC does. It leads almost every hourly broadcast.


Does the BBC have nothing better to do.

Yes, it does.

The BBC has to report the news, like what's happening in various civil wars across the globe.
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Postby Benutanairan » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:01 pm

Caninope wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:
Well lets put it this way

You can't make a war pie and focus on an education pie, if you produce aircraft you take away money from education. France doesn't have a massive potential like the US and China.

The budget isn't a binary thing.


Tell that to the national assembly.
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Postby Blazedtown » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:03 pm

But, but isn't that ebil imperialism or is that only when Amerikkka does it?
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