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What do you believe in?

Evolution
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83%
Creationism
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17%
 
Total votes : 781

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Edward Richtofen
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:28 am

ouch....
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:28 am

Divair wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Indeed, and I'd been on their forums with him before that. I'd say he's a very dedicate Poe and the people on the forums are joining in on the joke with a nudge and a wink, or they're there specifically to argue against all those people.

I hope so.

There may be some True Believers, you get all sorts on the internet. If memory serves, challenging them on GPS is the silver bullet.

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Pennswald
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Postby Pennswald » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:28 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Auralia wrote:
God did not "pop into existence". God exists outside of time; he always existed.


Why does he like playing skee ball?


Yay! A Dogma reference!

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Priory Academy USSR
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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:29 am

Pesda wrote:
North Stradia wrote:This is a few months old, but someone showed this to me today, and I was shocked.

Only 15% of Americans fully believe in evolution. 46% reject it outright. And the latter number has risen by 6% from the year before.

(Image)
Source: Gallup

These are the sort of things that make me embarrassed to be American. This is 2013, not 1500. You would think that by now, most people would be able to accept basic science. I feel like if the religious right isn't stopped soon, we could be almost a theocracy in 20 or 30 years. Hopefully, something can change drastically. However, it's an understatement to say that I'm more than a little worried about the future of my country.


edited for grammar


The graph clearly shows 47% accepting evolution.


32% of those believe in Intelligent Design, or whatever they want to call it. Not the Godless scientific concensus which most people in Western countries support.
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Divair
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Postby Divair » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:29 am

Ifreann wrote:
Divair wrote:I hope so.

There may be some True Believers, you get all sorts on the internet. If memory serves, challenging them on GPS is the silver bullet.

We should just stick them on a shuttle and watch their minds explode as they go on EVA's.

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Zimmer Twins
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Postby Zimmer Twins » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:30 am

Pesda wrote:
North Stradia wrote:This is a few months old, but someone showed this to me today, and I was shocked.

Only 15% of Americans fully believe in evolution. 46% reject it outright. And the latter number has risen by 6% from the year before.

(Image)
Source: Gallup

These are the sort of things that make me embarrassed to be American. This is 2013, not 1500. You would think that by now, most people would be able to accept basic science. I feel like if the religious right isn't stopped soon, we could be almost a theocracy in 20 or 30 years. Hopefully, something can change drastically. However, it's an understatement to say that I'm more than a little worried about the future of my country.


edited for grammar


The graph clearly shows 47% accepting evolution.

I think he mean't without god's guidance.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:31 am

Zimmer Twins wrote:This doesn't really matter. People can believe whatever they want to.

We've already reached our quota of hipsters arguing for ignorance, thanks.
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Postby Zimmer Twins » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:32 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Zimmer Twins wrote:This doesn't really matter. People can believe whatever they want to.

We've already reached our quota of hipsters arguing for ignorance, thanks.

I am arguing that people can believe what they want. Even if it is outright false.
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Postby Shadowlandistan » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:32 am

This makes me ashamed to be an American, but gives me pride in being one of the smart ones.
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Zottistan
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Postby Zottistan » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:33 am

People are thick. News?
Shadowlandistan wrote:This makes me ashamed to be an American, but gives me pride in being one of the smart ones.

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Bottle
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Postby Bottle » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:33 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Zimmer Twins wrote:This doesn't really matter. People can believe whatever they want to.

We've already reached our quota of hipsters arguing for ignorance, thanks.

It's like being in a room that is 1/3rds full of scientists and educated laypeople, and 2/3rds full of sugared-up 10 year olds who are repeating "It's a free country, I can believe whatever I want" over and over and over.
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Divair
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Postby Divair » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:33 am

Bottle wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:We've already reached our quota of hipsters arguing for ignorance, thanks.

It's like being in a room that is 1/3rds full of scientists and educated laypeople, and 2/3rds full of sugared-up 10 year olds who are repeating "It's a free country, I can believe whatever I want" over and over and over.

'MURICA

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Bottle
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Postby Bottle » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:34 am

Zimmer Twins wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:We've already reached our quota of hipsters arguing for ignorance, thanks.

I am arguing that people can believe what they want.

Yes, and many of us believe in improving science education.

You done now?
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Zimmer Twins
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Postby Zimmer Twins » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:34 am

Bottle wrote:
Zimmer Twins wrote:I am arguing that people can believe what they want.

Yes, and many of us believe in improving science education.

You done now?

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Pesda
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Postby Pesda » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:34 am

Priory Academy USSR wrote:
Pesda wrote:
The graph clearly shows 47% accepting evolution.


32% of those believe in Intelligent Design, or whatever they want to call it. Not the Godless scientific concensus which most people in Western countries support.


That doesn't stop them from "accepting evolution."
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Lerodan Chinamerica
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:35 am

This is a misleading OP. The statistics you sourced do not say this.

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Pesda
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Postby Pesda » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:35 am

Zimmer Twins wrote:
Pesda wrote:
The graph clearly shows 47% accepting evolution.

I think he mean't without god's guidance.


That's not what he said.
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
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Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Postby Esternial » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:35 am

Bottle wrote:
Zimmer Twins wrote:I am arguing that people can believe what they want.

Yes, and many of us believe in improving science education.

You done now?

Yeah, you guys should work on that :p

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Neo Art
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Postby Neo Art » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:36 am

Esternial wrote:
Bottle wrote:Yes, and many of us believe in improving science education.

You done now?

Yeah, you guys should work on that :p


we're trying, don't blame us for the actions of some douchebags who keep voting to cut education spending.
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Postby Zimmer Twins » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:36 am

Pesda wrote:
Zimmer Twins wrote:I think he mean't without god's guidance.


That's not what he said.

Again I think he meant without god's guidance.
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:37 am

Zimmer Twins wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:We've already reached our quota of hipsters arguing for ignorance, thanks.

I am arguing that people can believe what they want. Even if it is outright false.

Of course they can. But people denying facts and trivialising science is bad and we should discourage it.

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Adenooine
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Postby Adenooine » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:37 am

I don't believe this statistic, or any for that matter. I base that on the fact that I've never been polled. :blink:

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Pesda
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Postby Pesda » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:37 am

Zimmer Twins wrote:
Pesda wrote:
That's not what he said.

Again I think he meant without god's guidance.


Well, it doesn't matter what he meant, or what you think he meant. What matters is that the thread title is misleading.
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Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
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thats cool i like ireland
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Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:37 am

Adenooine wrote:I don't believe this statistic, or any for that matter. I base that on the fact that I've never been polled. :blink:

Bloody stupid reasoning.

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Zimmer Twins
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Postby Zimmer Twins » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:37 am

Neo Art wrote:
Esternial wrote:Yeah, you guys should work on that :p


we're trying, don't blame us for the actions of some douchebags who keep voting to cut education spending.

OH NOW I GET IT! THEY PUT MONEY INTO EDUCATION SO THEY CAN GET SUPPLIES! I HAD AN EPIPHANY!

Ifreann wrote:
Adenooine wrote:I don't believe this statistic, or any for that matter. I base that on the fact that I've never been polled. :blink:

Bloody stupid reasoning.

If he has never been polled think about who has been polled :unsure:
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