Only 15% of Americans accept evolution.

[Divair]

You stand on it and believe things?

The knowledge goes through my feet.

Sounds interesting.

[New Libertarian States]

No disrespect, especially since that article looks to provide interesting study on several hypothises that my backwards ass was not familiar with, but I want to see it happen or replicated, not just theorized about. I have yet to see factual evidence of this, unlike evolution, so I will cling to my belief concerning God as the initial architect of the universe pending furthur study and/ or proof of Abiogenesis.

You don't see the irony at all, do you?

Spot the irony, the game.

[Ifreann]

I love polls like this - they're vague enough to prove the point of any argument one wishes to have!

There's no nuanced choices, even though it appears that way.

With all the very improbable events and circumstances that have had to occur for us to arrive to be us on this planet -

Oh man, I can tell this is going to be good. Time to open up Wolfram-Alpha

from orbit to Moon to just the right species surviving each mass extinction event - it's very easy to ask if there isn't a paranormal/supernatural nudge here and there, and to come up with the conclusion that there probably is.

Easy, perhaps, but stupid.

Tell me this. At what point of improbability do we reject reality and posit magic as an explanation? Because if I shuffle a standard deck of 52 cards the chances of me getting them in some particular order(let's say, the aces, then the twos, then the kings, then the threes, and so on) are 1 in 8.0658175170943878571660636856403766975289505440883277824 × 10⁶⁷. 1 in 80 unvigintillion, 658 vigintillion, 175 novemdecillion, 170 octodecillion, 943 septendecillion, 878 sexdecillion, 571 quindecillion, 660 quattuordecillion, 636 tredecillion, 856 duodecillion, 403 undecillion, 766 decillion, 975 nonillion, 289 octillion, 505 septillion, 440 sextillion, 883 quintillion, 277 quadrillion, 824 trillion.

And that's just a deck of cards. Was God guiding my hands invisibly? What if it was ten decks of cards? What if I had a thousand people, each shuffling twenty decks? Tell me how improbable something has to be for the magic to happen and we can arrange to contrive that number by shuffling cards and we'll see if we can spot the paranormal running around fucking with things.

I'm really interested in what point of improbability causes magic to happen, so I'm quoting this to the new page lest it get missed.

[Des-Bal]

If you're religious you don't believe anything happens without God guiding it's still a sad statistic but it's not as bad as the OP would have you believe.

[AiliailiA]

I'll take that as a concession. Good day.

Not really a good day when you have to argue with children...

As someone else said, you don't have to argue about this subject. There are other subjects.

Oh, wait. I was you ...

I still wonder if it even matters whether anyone believes in evolution or creationism. We're all here, can't we all just get along?

So get along now. See you in some other thread

[Benutanairan]

let me explain why Im not an evolutionist or creationist. It was not born out of hispteristic hedonistic chavism. I went to college in France so no.

I believe in adaptation because of its practical relations with my veternarian career.

Basically I was studying a stomach bacterium aflicting the local population of sheep

Hence this bacterium was also a different strain from human strains hence I believe it adapted instead of evolving to complete its genetic gap. I don't refuse belief in natural and artificial selection nor the genetic experiments nor conditioning or pavlov just the radical parts of the idea. Creationism itself I reject because of the logical gap in the theory and its rejection of scientific basis.

[Maurepas]

Now if only we could get all 15% of those to vote, we could probably do something about that.

[Ifreann]

let me explain why Im not an evolutionist or creationist. It was not born out of hispteristic hedonistic chavism. I went to college in France so no.

I believe in adaptation because of its practical relations with my veternarian career.

Basically I was studying a stomach bacterium aflicting the local population of sheep

Hence this bacterium was also a different strain from human strains hence I believe it adapted instead of evolving...

The fuck do you think the difference is here?

Seriously, describe for me what you think adaptation is and what you think evolution is. I bet what you'll come out with will actually be evolution and a complete load of bollocks, respectively.

[AiliailiA]

If you're religious you don't believe anything happens without God guiding

Wow, no. Not even all Christians believe God intervenes in everything.

it's still a sad statistic but it's not as bad as the OP would have you believe.

Yeah, I think a poll with only two options would shake quite a few of those "God had a hand in it" folks to the "evolution happened without God" side.

[Benutanairan]

let me explain why Im not an evolutionist or creationist. It was not born out of hispteristic hedonistic chavism. I went to college in France so no.

I believe in adaptation because of its practical relations with my veternarian career.

Basically I was studying a stomach bacterium aflicting the local population of sheep

Hence this bacterium was also a different strain from human strains hence I believe it adapted instead of evolving...

The fuck do you think the difference is here?

Seriously, describe for me what you think adaptation is and what you think evolution is. I bet what you'll come out with will actually be evolution and a complete load of bollocks, respectively.

Because you copied my unfinished answer I can't actually respond.

[Enadail]

The fuck do you think the difference is here?

Seriously, describe for me what you think adaptation is and what you think evolution is. I bet what you'll come out with will actually be evolution and a complete load of bollocks, respectively.

Because you copied my unfinished answer I can't actually respond.

He responded before I could, but I was going to ask the same question, because the rest of your answer doesn't resolve it either. It doesn't make any sense in fact. Somehow Pavlov made it into a discussion of evolution?

But here, I'll answer for you: believing in "adaptation" but not "evolution" is like saying you believe in inches, but not feet.

[Ifreann]

The fuck do you think the difference is here?

Seriously, describe for me what you think adaptation is and what you think evolution is. I bet what you'll come out with will actually be evolution and a complete load of bollocks, respectively.

Because you copied my unfinished answer I can't actually respond.

In fact you can. I cut out some of your post because it wasn't relevant to the reply I was making.

You said that you believe this bacterium you were studying adapted rather than evolved. I would like you to explain what the difference is, in your opinion.

[Esternial]

let me explain why Im not an evolutionist or creationist. It was not born out of hispteristic hedonistic chavism. I went to college in France so no.

I believe in adaptation because of its practical relations with my veternarian career.

Basically I was studying a stomach bacterium aflicting the local population of sheep

Hence this bacterium was also a different strain from human strains hence I believe it adapted instead of evolving to complete its genetic gap. I don't refuse belief in natural and artificial selection nor the genetic experiments nor conditioning or pavlov just the radical parts of the idea. Creationism itself I reject because of the logical gap in the theory and its rejection of scientific basis.

I'm studying microbiology and I have no idea what this kind of bs is.

A few things I can understand, but I think the problem lies with how you're trying to explain yourself.

[Divair]

let me explain why Im not an evolutionist or creationist. It was not born out of hispteristic hedonistic chavism. I went to college in France so no.

I believe in adaptation because of its practical relations with my veternarian career.

Basically I was studying a stomach bacterium aflicting the local population of sheep

Hence this bacterium was also a different strain from human strains hence I believe it adapted instead of evolving to complete its genetic gap. I don't refuse belief in natural and artificial selection nor the genetic experiments nor conditioning or pavlov just the radical parts of the idea. Creationism itself I reject because of the logical gap in the theory and its rejection of scientific basis.

What in the fuck did I just read?

[Dyakovo]

let me explain why Im not an evolutionist or creationist. It was not born out of hispteristic hedonistic chavism. I went to college in France so no.

I believe in adaptation because of its practical relations with my veternarian career.

Basically I was studying a stomach bacterium aflicting the local population of sheep

Hence this bacterium was also a different strain from human strains hence I believe it adapted instead of evolving to complete its genetic gap. I don't refuse belief in natural and artificial selection nor the genetic experiments nor conditioning or pavlov just the radical parts of the idea. Creationism itself I reject because of the logical gap in the theory and its rejection of scientific basis.

Translation: I don't accept that evolution is fact and that the Theory of Evolution via Natural Selection is the best available explanation for how it happens because I don't know what it actually says. Plus I'm a hipster, so just saying that I don't get it isn't as good as claiming to have my own theory that's totally better because it uses different words.

[AiliailiA]

It was not born out of hispteristic hedonistic chavism.

Hey, I wasn't either.

[Esternial]

Because you copied my unfinished answer I can't actually respond.

In fact you can. I cut out some of your post because it wasn't relevant to the reply I was making.

You said that you believe this bacterium you were studying adapted rather than evolved. I would like you to explain what the difference is, in your opinion.

Actually, bacteria don't really 'adapt', when they replicate they might.

But the thing is, replication is analogous to people having sex and shooting out a baby with some altered trait, only bacteria are single-celled organisms and do this much faster, allowing for a much higher rate of mutations because they essentially 'reproduce' (which is a wrong term, but fuck it) much faster than any eukaryote.

Thus, adaptation is analogous to evolution, if not the same thing. Evolution being the eukaryotic form of adaptation.

[Dyakovo]

The fuck do you think the difference is here?

Seriously, describe for me what you think adaptation is and what you think evolution is. I bet what you'll come out with will actually be evolution and a complete load of bollocks, respectively.

Because you copied my unfinished answer I can't actually respond.

What a pitiful cop-out...

[Ifreann]

It was not born out of hispteristic hedonistic chavism.

Hey, I wasn't either.

My mother was a hedonistic hipster chav before it was cool

[Bottle]

So any 4.00 GPA college student who believes in creationism solely on their religious views in uneducated.

Either they are uneducated in BIOLOGY, or they are willfully ignorant.

Now I suppose you'll say "Anyone who doesn't believe in evolution can't go to college."

I do think that the ability to correctly describe basic evolutionary biology is something that every student should have before they are allowed to graduate high school. It is a very simple, core concept, and I think high school diplomas should reflect basic competence in math, language, science, and civics.

Whether or not the student personally "believes" in evolution is as irrelevant as whether they "believe" in the Holocaust. They need to be able to demonstrate that they have absorbed the facts, even if they personally choose to be deluded.

[AiliailiA]

Because you copied my unfinished answer I can't actually respond.

"Unfinished"? If you're going to edit it, maybe the answers will change.

[Copenhagen Metropolis]

So people who don't believe in evolution aren't educated?

Yes.
The same is thought of people who believe the world to be flat.

You do know that that ''they believed the world was flat in the old days''-saying is bullocks, right?

[Bottle]

let me explain why Im not an evolutionist or creationist. It was not born out of hispteristic hedonistic chavism. I went to college in France so no.

I believe in adaptation because of its practical relations with my veternarian career.

Basically I was studying a stomach bacterium aflicting the local population of sheep

Hence this bacterium was also a different strain from human strains hence I believe it adapted instead of evolving to complete its genetic gap. I don't refuse belief in natural and artificial selection nor the genetic experiments nor conditioning or pavlov just the radical parts of the idea. Creationism itself I reject because of the logical gap in the theory and its rejection of scientific basis.

I'm studying microbiology and I have no idea what this kind of bs is.

A few things I can understand, but I think the problem lies with how you're trying to explain yourself.

The combination of his unusual syntax and the fact that he went to school in France suggest that English may not be his first language.

[Copenhagen Metropolis]

Its still called the THEORY of evolution not the fact of evolution.(All im saying on the subject)

Thanks for popping in to demonstrate your ignorance.

It's so obvious. Don't fall for it...

[Benutanairan]

I'm studying microbiology and I have no idea what this kind of bs is.

A few things I can understand, but I think the problem lies with how you're trying to explain yourself.

The combination of his unusual syntax and the fact that he went to school in France suggest that English may not be his first language.

Its actually not
French and Dutch-Afrikaans is my first and second

English is my 3rd