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by Farnhamia » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:14 pm

by Individuality-ness » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:14 pm
The New Confederation of Free States wrote:Individuality-ness wrote:Quite a bit, actually. We have breeders, teachers, scientists, doctors, parents, politicians (who have to deal with what is to be taught in our nation's schools)... and then we have the voting population. Oh right...
I would, since they vote for politicians who choose what our kids learn in schools.
Freedom from religion is a part of freedom of religion.
Separation of church and state, the US is a secular nation, Treaty of Tripoli, blah blah blah.
Yes, but because the neo-conservatives insist that we must have prayer in schools, that we must teach creationism - I'm sorry, intelligent design in schools, that gays should not have the right to get married, etc. Not because we're trying to teach science in a science classroom, where it belongs.
In order:
1) I'm assuming the people who make it though medical school and science programs do in fact believe in evolution
2) I guess you have a point there, but remember: 46% is not a majority and if some town decides to teach intelligent design in it's schools then what skin is it off your back and what would you do about it? Get the Federal government involved in it?
3) Freedom of religion means the government isn't going to adopt an official religion, force a religion on you, or persecute you for your religion/atheism. It doesn't mean that people can only worship in their homes and churches or that any expression of faith in public place or by a public official must be stopped, which I honestly believe many of the more radical atheist groups support and have been somewhat successful in doing.
4) Sure, there are politicians advocating that. But how much support do they have, on a national level? Are the acts they put in place, like Clinton's DOMA, gaining or losing support?

by Northern Dominus » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:14 pm
Or at least the results of the random sample tests tend to be skewed due to the fact that by and large people who think that evolution is the most logical answer don't have time to answer because they have better things to do. This is because they're probably not ideology zealots and fit into society IE having a job and occupations outside of a very narrow set of values, than the staunch creationists that took the time to answer the poll and stump for their "values" because they didn't have anything better to do then answer a random sampling.Libertarian California wrote:I think that more than 15% of Americans accept evolution...

by Geilinor » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:16 pm

by TomKirk » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:17 pm
Libertarian California wrote:I think that more than 15% of Americans accept evolution...

by Conscentia » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:23 pm
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by United States of Peace » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:40 pm

by Individuality-ness » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:41 pm
United States of Peace wrote:I believe in evolution, yet I also believe in a higher being, what is that called?

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by Individuality-ness » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:45 pm

by Enadail » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:46 pm
The New Confederation of Free States wrote:4) Sure, there are politicians advocating that. But how much support do they have, on a national level? Are the acts they put in place, like Clinton's DOMA, gaining or losing support?

by United States of Peace » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:47 pm

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by Xsyne » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:52 pm
Chernoslavia wrote:Free Soviets wrote:according to both the law library of congress and wikipedia, both automatics and semi-autos that can be easily converted are outright banned in norway.
Source?

by The New Confederation of Free States » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:53 pm
Individuality-ness wrote:The New Confederation of Free States wrote:In order:
1) I'm assuming the people who make it though medical school and science programs do in fact believe in evolution
2) I guess you have a point there, but remember: 46% is not a majority and if some town decides to teach intelligent design in it's schools then what skin is it off your back and what would you do about it? Get the Federal government involved in it?
3) Freedom of religion means the government isn't going to adopt an official religion, force a religion on you, or persecute you for your religion/atheism. It doesn't mean that people can only worship in their homes and churches or that any expression of faith in public place or by a public official must be stopped, which I honestly believe many of the more radical atheist groups support and have been somewhat successful in doing.
4) Sure, there are politicians advocating that. But how much support do they have, on a national level? Are the acts they put in place, like Clinton's DOMA, gaining or losing support?
1) There's some people who don't believe in evolution and yet are scientists and doctors and whatnot. :/ I don't know why.
2) Uh yes? Separation of church and state for one. First Amendment anyone?
3) Of course freedom of religion means that. But I would rather not have football games opened by prayers and have my local DMV have a huge Nativity scene on the front lawn.
4) Not sure, but it's enough so that they'll keep proposing them to get votes.

by Enadail » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:54 pm
Xsyne wrote:TomKirk wrote:Yes. 47% accept evolution, but only 15% disbelieve in God.
15% do not believe God had a role in human evolution. That does not mean they do not believe in God. (If I'm remembering it correctly, the official position of the Roman Catholic Church would fall under that umbrella.)

by United States of Peace » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:54 pm

by Mavorpen » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:55 pm
The New Confederation of Free States wrote:3) Really? Is it that much of a personal insult to you when people worship or pray openly?

by Dyakovo » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:57 pm
United States of Peace wrote:I believe in evolution, yet I also believe in a higher being, what is that called?
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