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Postby Cabra West » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:57 am

I was watching University Challenge on Monday evening, snuggled up with husband and cats on the sofa.
I really like the show, and I'll always be guessing along, which does annoy the husband somewhat (or so he claims, anyway).

Now, on this particular episode, one question was "Excluding the x and y chromosomes, how many pairs of chromosomes does a human cell have?"
I shouted the answer at the screen and he looks at me in disbelief, asking "How do you know that?"
So I told him, 10th grade biology, and I thought everyone knew that. I would have considered it common knowledge.

So yesterday, hubby comes home and tells me he's asked all his colleagues at work (an IT company), and not one knew the answer. Two or three actually asked him what a chromosome was, exactly.

Would you consider this common knowledge?
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Postby Meowfoundland » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:16 am

I'm Australian. The capital city of Australia is Canberra. The amount of people I've encountered who thought it was "A.C.T." is beyond belief.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:20 am

:clap: Good Op.

What is common knowledge? Eliminating my own bias, and basic literacy, math comprehension. I don't think there is much. Knowledge is not that common. Sad considering that we (as a world) are far more educated than at any other time.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:20 am

Meowfoundland wrote:I'm Australian. The capital city of Australia is Canberra. The amount of people I've encountered who thought it was "A.C.T." is beyond belief.


It's not Syndey? :shock:

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Postby Cirona » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:22 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Meowfoundland wrote:I'm Australian. The capital city of Australia is Canberra. The amount of people I've encountered who thought it was "A.C.T." is beyond belief.


It's not Syndey? :shock:

/joke


Beat me to it.

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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:23 am

I shit you not, there are some people within my school system who question whether other people are either from China or Asia.

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:24 am

Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:I shit you not, there are some people within my school system who question whether other people are either from China or Asia.

My heart drops a little each time at the stunning ideology that China and Asia are two seperate continents.


Try cynicism some time.
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Postby Duvniask » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:24 am

I have encountered people who didn't know what or where the Equator was. That's just sad.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:28 am

Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:I shit you not, there are some people within my school system who question whether other people are either from China or Asia.

My heart drops a little each time at the stunning ideology that China and Asia are two seperate continents.


it would make the vietnamese happy.

that human beings are mammals.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:31 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:I shit you not, there are some people within my school system who question whether other people are either from China or Asia.

My heart drops a little each time at the stunning ideology that China and Asia are two seperate continents.


it would make the vietnamese happy.

that human beings are mammals.

That humans are animals. What else is there? vegetable, mineral, or element.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:32 am

My expectations of general knowledge are based on the "required" 9 years of comprehensive education that Finnish school system offers. I have found this to be about on the level of first 2 years of college in the USA system or same in British equivalent. Additionally I would expect people to have been aware of major world events since finishing school.

So given all this, my expectations for "common knowledge" are quite high. I've learned, however, not to expect anything (possibly beyond literacy and knowing what Internet is) from anyone online, unless they prove me otherwise.
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Postby Cetacea » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:34 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
it would make the vietnamese happy.

that human beings are mammals.

That humans are animals. What else is there? vegetable, mineral, or element.


I had a happy little argument with someone (can't recall who) who proclaimed "but fish aren't animals, animals are just birds and mammals" I asked them where they thought reptiles might fit and they replied "oh I hadn't thought of them"


but generally I'd expect common knowledge to consist of" yeah, I'll look it up on google"
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:35 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
it would make the vietnamese happy.

that human beings are mammals.

That humans are animals. What else is there? vegetable, mineral, or element.


or more commonly, are god, and are somehow exempt from the laws of nature.
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Postby Meowfoundland » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:35 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Meowfoundland wrote:I'm Australian. The capital city of Australia is Canberra. The amount of people I've encountered who thought it was "A.C.T." is beyond belief.


It's not Syndey? :shock:

/joke


It may be a joke, but that one comes from foreigners pretty regularly too. It's a lot more forgivable than Australians thinking it's A.C.T. though.
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Postby Cabra West » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:36 am

Duvniask wrote:I have encountered people who didn't know what or where the Equator was. That's just sad.


Heh, that reminds me, during the last football world cup, we had an office bet that went as follows:

The participating countries were written on little strips of paper (luckily, that near enough matched the number of people in the office).
Every participant paid €5, and was allowed to draw one country from a hat. If that country won, they got the total takings.

My (then) manager pulled her slip of paper from the hat, read it and shouted: "Horrendous? Where in earth is Horrendous?"
Turned out to be Honduras, but she still had never heard of it and had no idea where it was...
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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:36 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:That humans are animals. What else is there? vegetable, mineral, or element.


or more commonly, are god, and are somehow exempt from the laws of nature.


Some believe they are exempt from the laws of physics. Those are the most entertaining ones.
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Postby Duvniask » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:41 am

Cabra West wrote:
Duvniask wrote:I have encountered people who didn't know what or where the Equator was. That's just sad.


Heh, that reminds me, during the last football world cup, we had an office bet that went as follows:

The participating countries were written on little strips of paper (luckily, that near enough matched the number of people in the office).
Every participant paid €5, and was allowed to draw one country from a hat. If that country won, they got the total takings.

My (then) manager pulled her slip of paper from the hat, read it and shouted: "Horrendous? Where in earth is Horrendous?"
Turned out to be Honduras, but she still had never heard of it and had no idea where it was...


Some people just aren't very good at geography. Apparently.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:43 am

Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
or more commonly, are god, and are somehow exempt from the laws of nature.


Some believe they are exempt from the laws of physics. Those are the most entertaining ones.


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Postby Perlia » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:43 am

Cabra West wrote:Now, on this particular episode, one question was "Excluding the x and y chromosomes, how many pairs of chromosomes does a human cell have?"
I shouted the answer at the screen and he looks at me in disbelief, asking "How do you know that?"
So I told him, 10th grade biology, and I thought everyone knew that. I would have considered it common knowledge.
I would consider this common knowledge and expect further that people knew it wasn't a well-formulated question.
So yesterday, hubby comes home and tells me he's asked all his colleagues at work (an IT company), and not one knew the answer. Two or three actually asked him what a chromosome was, exactly.
Wait, what?! Seriously?
IT-workers are usually very well educated. I can accept that not all of them knew the exact number (or rather, had forgotten it), but not knowing what a chromosome is? tsktsk.
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Postby Laerod » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:45 am

Eh. Hanging out on NSG... Common knowledge is more of a logical fallacy and copout for having to do research than anything meaningful.

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Postby Laerod » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:47 am

Cabra West wrote:
Duvniask wrote:I have encountered people who didn't know what or where the Equator was. That's just sad.


Heh, that reminds me, during the last football world cup, we had an office bet that went as follows:

The participating countries were written on little strips of paper (luckily, that near enough matched the number of people in the office).
Every participant paid €5, and was allowed to draw one country from a hat. If that country won, they got the total takings.

My (then) manager pulled her slip of paper from the hat, read it and shouted: "Horrendous? Where in earth is Horrendous?"
Turned out to be Honduras, but she still had never heard of it and had no idea where it was...

But if you've never heard of Honduras, how would you know the common knowledge that the capital is Tegucigalpa? =S

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:48 am

Meowfoundland wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
It's not Syndey? :shock:

/joke


It may be a joke, but that one comes from foreigners pretty regularly too. It's a lot more forgivable than Australians thinking it's A.C.T. though.


Most people in America are hard pressed to find there own asses. With a map, flashlight and GPS monitor.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:50 am

Meowfoundland wrote:I'm Australian. The capital city of Australia is Canberra. The amount of people I've encountered who thought it was "A.C.T." is beyond belief.


Really?

THe amount of stupid things people have said to me could fill a large book
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