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Postby The balkens » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:56 pm

i guess we are all going to hell for this then :p

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Postby Carsonalia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:56 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
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It's never the perpetrators fault on the internet it seems. Yay.

I do not blame the knife for cutting the flesh. I do not blame the hand wielding the knife to cut the flesh. I blame the obvious lack of mature oversight that has contributed to a culture where people feel we can, without fault or flaw, abstain from parenting our children.


So the internet denizens preying on the unprotected are at no fault. Got ya. You're a horrible person.

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Postby Azrael » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:56 pm

Transvestitia wrote:I can understand that many see drugs as a terrible substance but thinking about it, Justin has had it tough. Most of the male population has been sending him hatemail and slighting him. JUst because he is better looking than them. He has just broken up with his gf. Looking at it like this I think we should support Justin in his move to ease his troubles out of his life in an easy and safe environment. Its not as if hes taking coke or anything. In fact I think we should support the use of cannabis for those with depression - they use it in hospitals for those with major pain illnesses so it could even be beneficial for JB.

Therefore I think the whole idea of cutting yourself just to persuade Justin to quit shows how much you actually hate him. He needs this at the moment. Compare his life to that of say Jonny Depp then we see how difficult his life is. He is a slave to his job. He works so hard to bring us joy with his beautiful music and such great messages. It breaks my heart.

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Postby Mkuki » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:57 pm

Transvestitia wrote:I can understand that many see drugs as a terrible substance but thinking about it, Justin has had it tough. Most of the male population has been sending him hatemail and slighting him. JUst because he is better looking than them. He has just broken up with his gf. Looking at it like this I think we should support Justin in his move to ease his troubles out of his life in an easy and safe environment. Its not as if hes taking coke or anything. In fact I think we should support the use of cannabis for those with depression - they use it in hospitals for those with major pain illnesses so it could even be beneficial for JB.

Therefore I think the whole idea of cutting yourself just to persuade Justin to quit shows how much you actually hate him. He needs this at the moment. Compare his life to that of say Jonny Depp then we see how difficult his life is. He is a slave to his job. He works so hard to bring us joy with his beautiful music and such great messages. It breaks my heart.

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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:57 pm

Transvestitia wrote:I can understand that many see drugs as a terrible substance but thinking about it, Justin has had it tough. Most of the male population has been sending him hatemail and slighting him. JUst because he is better looking than them. He has just broken up with his gf. Looking at it like this I think we should support Justin in his move to ease his troubles out of his life in an easy and safe environment. Its not as if hes taking coke or anything. In fact I think we should support the use of cannabis for those with depression - they use it in hospitals for those with major pain illnesses so it could even be beneficial for JB.

Therefore I think the whole idea of cutting yourself just to persuade Justin to quit shows how much you actually hate him. He needs this at the moment. Compare his life to that of say Jonny Depp then we see how difficult his life is. He is a slave to his job. He works so hard to bring us joy with his beautiful music and such great messages. It breaks my heart.


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Postby Oterro » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:57 pm

Carsonalia wrote:And when an elderly person is duped out of their money by con artists they're to blame. The con artist shouldn't fear any punishment or blame.
it's not really the same though is it

one is a person of seemingly reasonable qualification promising and not supplying a service.

the other is ''doing what someone on the internet says you should do'' or more bluntly ''doing what everyone else apparently is''.
Carsonalia wrote:And when someone is talked into a dangerous procedure by their doctor with little to no information about the process it's entirely their fault and the doctor should be free to go.

again i'm going to go back to the ''fucking idiot thing'' if you can't really distinguish between a medical professional and an anonymous internet person.
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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:57 pm

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Samozaryadnyastan wrote:You still fail to understand that there was a complete failure of everything at the level of the person doing the self-harm and the parent of that person, and presumably the fanculture that pop music since the 1970s or so has generated.


Nope i'm willing to accept that parents have a role here but i'm not into the kind of complete blame shifting that others are all about.


Everyone was to blame. Any half decent culture/society wouldn't really have this problem. It's following the crowd taken to impossible extremes, if people are actually doing it.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:57 pm

Carsonalia wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I do not blame the knife for cutting the flesh. I do not blame the hand wielding the knife to cut the flesh. I blame the obvious lack of mature oversight that has contributed to a culture where people feel we can, without fault or flaw, abstain from parenting our children.


So the internet denizens preying on the unprotected are at no fault. Got ya. You're a horrible person.

There is a certain level at which doing something retarded can be blamed on no-one but the person who does it.
Slitting your wrists "because the internet told you to" puts you in that region of retarded.

Last time I checked, "an older boy told me to do it" has never, and still is not, accepted as a defence in schools.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:57 pm

Carsonalia wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I do not blame the knife for cutting the flesh. I do not blame the hand wielding the knife to cut the flesh. I blame the obvious lack of mature oversight that has contributed to a culture where people feel we can, without fault or flaw, abstain from parenting our children.


So the internet denizens preying on the unprotected are at no fault. Got ya. You're a horrible person.

Sure, absolutely. I'm at fault for saying that the parents need to stop with the "I didn't know what kind of things my child was doing. I didn't notice their complete descent into nihilistic madness. I certainly didn't notice that their depression was so bad that self-harm became the only logical explanation. OH LOOK THE KARDASHIANS."

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Postby Carsonalia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:57 pm

Azrael wrote:
Carsonalia wrote:It's never the perpetrators fault on the internet it seems. Yay.

"yo man, you should totally beat those elderly people over there"
"okay"

The perpetrator is the one who carries out the action. Simply telling someone to do something without any forceful persuasion doesn't make them the perpetrator, however, the fact that it results in harmful actions is possibly liable to get them in trouble.


"You should kill yourself"

"You should kill yourself"

"You should kill yourself"

*Kills self*

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Postby Anollasia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:58 pm

Calimera II wrote:Weed suddenly isn't cool anymore..

It never was. :meh:

Personally, I think WHO THE HELL CARES?!

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Postby Carsonalia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:58 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Carsonalia wrote:
So the internet denizens preying on the unprotected are at no fault. Got ya. You're a horrible person.

Sure, absolutely. I'm at fault for saying that the parents need to stop with the "I didn't know what kind of things my child was doing. I didn't notice their complete descent into nihilistic madness. I certainly didn't notice that their depression was so bad that self-harm became the only logical explanation. OH LOOK THE KARDASHIANS."


No you're at fault for completely trying to cover the absolute cunts that would start a trend like this.

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Postby Jagalonia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:59 pm

Oterro wrote:
Carsonalia wrote:And when an elderly person is duped out of their money by con artists they're to blame. The con artist shouldn't fear any punishment or blame.
it's not really the same though is it

one is a person of seemingly reasonable qualification promising and not supplying a service.

the other is ''doing what someone on the internet says you should do'' or more bluntly ''doing what everyone else apparently is''.
Carsonalia wrote:And when someone is talked into a dangerous procedure by their doctor with little to no information about the process it's entirely their fault and the doctor should be free to go.

again i'm going to go back to the ''fucking idiot thing'' if you can't really distinguish between a medical professional and an anonymous internet person.

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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:59 pm

Carsonalia wrote:
Azrael wrote:"yo man, you should totally beat those elderly people over there"
"okay"

The perpetrator is the one who carries out the action. Simply telling someone to do something without any forceful persuasion doesn't make them the perpetrator, however, the fact that it results in harmful actions is possibly liable to get them in trouble.


"You should kill yourself"

"You should kill yourself"

"You should kill yourself"

*Kills self*

Mob : "It's his own fault"


Nobody is saying that you cannot find help instead of killing yourself. :eyebrow:
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Postby Carsonalia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:59 pm

Priory Academy USSR wrote:
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Nope i'm willing to accept that parents have a role here but i'm not into the kind of complete blame shifting that others are all about.


Everyone was to blame.


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Postby Neo Arcad » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:59 pm

The balkens wrote:i guess we are all going to hell for this then :p


HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEND ME TO HELL

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Postby Nazis in Space » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:59 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Carsonalia wrote:
It's never the perpetrators fault on the internet it seems. Yay.

I do not blame the knife for cutting the flesh. I do not blame the hand wielding the knife to cut the flesh. I blame the obvious lack of mature oversight that has contributed to a culture where people feel we can, without fault or flaw, abstain from parenting our children.
Cutting's been a thing for rather longer than the past 24 hours.

It's a thing some people go through as teenagers.

No big deal, tbh.

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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:59 pm

Jagalonia wrote:
Oterro wrote:it's not really the same though is it

one is a person of seemingly reasonable qualification promising and not supplying a service.

the other is ''doing what someone on the internet says you should do'' or more bluntly ''doing what everyone else apparently is''.

again i'm going to go back to the ''fucking idiot thing'' if you can't really distinguish between a medical professional and an anonymous internet person.

Do you think 4chan will start jumpingoffacliff4beiber soon?


Anhero4beiber would seem more likely, knowing 4chan.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:00 pm

Carsonalia wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Sure, absolutely. I'm at fault for saying that the parents need to stop with the "I didn't know what kind of things my child was doing. I didn't notice their complete descent into nihilistic madness. I certainly didn't notice that their depression was so bad that self-harm became the only logical explanation. OH LOOK THE KARDASHIANS."


No you're at fault for completely trying to cover the absolute cunts that would start a trend like this.

Still not covering for them. I'm saying that if the parents had been more actively involved in their children's lives, instead of relying on the sparkly-wonder-machine to raise them, these two girls may have NOT decided to start digging for gold in their wrists.

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Postby Dorlania » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:00 pm

Jagalonia wrote:
Oterro wrote:it's not really the same though is it

one is a person of seemingly reasonable qualification promising and not supplying a service.

the other is ''doing what someone on the internet says you should do'' or more bluntly ''doing what everyone else apparently is''.

again i'm going to go back to the ''fucking idiot thing'' if you can't really distinguish between a medical professional and an anonymous internet person.

Do you think 4chan will start jumpingoffacliff4beiber soon?

no
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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:00 pm

Neo Arcad wrote:
The balkens wrote:i guess we are all going to hell for this then :p


HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEND ME TO HELL

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What?! I thought I was in Detroit. D:
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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:00 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Carsonalia wrote:
Yeah but from what I can see you're the misanthropic type that might hold everyone to stupid standards rather than accepting variations in logical and emotional maturity as age progresses

You still fail to understand that there was a complete failure of everything at the level of the person doing the self-harm and the parent of that person, and presumably the fanculture that pop music since the 1970s or so has generated.

The fact that random groups of people on the internet have to power to do shit like this is testament to how fucking thick the west is as a society.


Some pubescent girls on the internet are not reflective of "Western society"; I'm not sure how you're drawing those conclusions.. It represents nothing more than a handful of people who are distressingly obsessive, emotionally immature and dangerously impulsive, and who obviously need help.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:01 pm

Carsonalia wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Sure, absolutely. I'm at fault for saying that the parents need to stop with the "I didn't know what kind of things my child was doing. I didn't notice their complete descent into nihilistic madness. I certainly didn't notice that their depression was so bad that self-harm became the only logical explanation. OH LOOK THE KARDASHIANS."


No you're at fault for completely trying to cover the absolute cunts that would start a trend like this.

You can't defend complete fucking morons forever.
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Postby Jagalonia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:01 pm

Dorlania wrote:
Jagalonia wrote:Do you think 4chan will start jumpingoffacliff4beiber soon?

no

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Postby The balkens » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:01 pm

Neo Arcad wrote:
The balkens wrote:i guess we are all going to hell for this then :p


HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEND ME TO HELL

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I predict that 95% of posters will not get this one, and someone will report it as spam. :?


i could send you to a guest perfomance on american idol by justin beiber.....also known as super hell
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