What is your sexuality? For people who are not closed minded

[Ostroeuropa]

I consider it everyones duty to police their own it allows us to take them seriously when they say thinks like "anti-immigration policy isn't racist." if their allies are continually being racists and they do/say nothing about it, they start to look more odd than if they chewed them out all the time.

Well, fair enough.

Ostreoeuropa: Brony Police.

I do get what you mean, though. Again, I suspect the label of "spinelessness" might stick if thrown at me.

But then Zweite Alaje strikes me as one of the sort who is ten-a-penny on this site and elsewhere. Narrow-minded and not really wanting their treasured preconceptions shaken by those who don't share their same world-view. A bit confirmed by referring to himself as "infamous" in his sig. Perhaps not so much "infamous" as "making everyone else shake their heads in despair".

I wouldn't consider it spineless unless they started gaining momentum and convincing people, and then I suspect you'd start taking notice.

[Free South Califas]

Because you aren't a tool. Not everyone thinks that way and I don't want to be accused of bigotry just because I have a pony in my flag, so I need to at least make a token gesture. we're also both syndicalists.

Fair enough.

Honestly, from what I've seen, he's probably the minority. At least, from what I've seen of it in NS. I don't tend to go out of my way to find all of MLP-fans' hideouts on this website. In some regards, I avoid them. I don't particularly like the programme, from what little I've seen of it. Ain't my cup of tea.

*drinks tea*

Although one could probably accuse me of lacking backbone and copping out to bigots by not attempting to challenge them in their ignorance.

One could, but IMHO to prevent such accusations, it is sufficient merely to offer solidarity and vocal support to those who are challenging bigotry at the moment.

[Tagmatium]

Well, fair enough.

Ostreoeuropa: Brony Police.

I do get what you mean, though. Again, I suspect the label of "spinelessness" might stick if thrown at me.

But then Zweite Alaje strikes me as one of the sort who is ten-a-penny on this site and elsewhere. Narrow-minded and not really wanting their treasured preconceptions shaken by those who don't share their same world-view. A bit confirmed by referring to himself as "infamous" in his sig. Perhaps not so much "infamous" as "making everyone else shake their heads in despair".

I wouldn't consider it spineless unless they started gaining momentum and convincing people, and then I suspect you'd start taking notice.

I think you're right on that point. Probably more of a case of deep apathy at this point in time.

[Free South Califas]

I wouldn't consider it spineless unless they started gaining momentum and convincing people, and then I suspect you'd start taking notice.

I think you're right on that point. Probably more of a case of deep apathy at this point in time.

Meh, residents enjoying a park typically aren't obliged to clean up after other people's dogs. You're here on your off time. Some of us just like having a bagful of shit in our hands.

[Ostroeuropa]

I think you're right on that point. Probably more of a case of deep apathy at this point in time.

Meh, residents enjoying a park typically aren't obliged to clean up after other people's dogs. You're here on your off time. Some of us just like having a bagful of shit in our hands.

I consider it community service for the times when I've espoused wrong beliefs

[Tagmatium]

Fair enough.

Honestly, from what I've seen, he's probably the minority. At least, from what I've seen of it in NS. I don't tend to go out of my way to find all of MLP-fans' hideouts on this website. In some regards, I avoid them. I don't particularly like the programme, from what little I've seen of it. Ain't my cup of tea.

*drinks tea*

Although one could probably accuse me of lacking backbone and copping out to bigots by not attempting to challenge them in their ignorance.

One could, but IMHO to prevent such accusations, it is sufficient merely to offer solidarity and vocal support to those who are challenging bigotry at the moment.

Yeah, you're right. Very much so, in fact.

Also, in this particular case, I don't know much about the issues that face trans people, but I certainly cannot condone the idea that they're some how defective or anything like that. In fact, I find suggestions such as that pretty offensive.

[Ostroeuropa]

One could, but IMHO to prevent such accusations, it is sufficient merely to offer solidarity and vocal support to those who are challenging bigotry at the moment.

Yeah, you're right. Very much so, in fact.

Also, in this particular case, I don't know much about the issues that face trans people, but I certainly cannot condone the idea that they're some how defective or anything like that. In fact, I find suggestions such as that pretty offensive.

Sure they are defective.
They have defective genitals, and an operation is required to bring them into being healthy. What isn't true is the idea of a defective mind. And just like if someone were born with a completely operable defect it wouldn't be considered a huge deal, we shouldn't consider transsexuality a huge deal either. It's just a quirk of biology. Sometimes people are born with physical defects, and we intervene.
No biggie. Nothing worth discriminating over, we're not nazis.

[Tagmatium]

Yeah, you're right. Very much so, in fact.

Also, in this particular case, I don't know much about the issues that face trans people, but I certainly cannot condone the idea that they're some how defective or anything like that. In fact, I find suggestions such as that pretty offensive.

Sure they are defective.
They have defective genitals, and an operation is required to bring them into being healthy. What isn't true is the idea of a defective mind. And just like if someone were born with a completely operable defect it wouldn't be considered a huge deal, we shouldn't consider transsexuality a huge deal either. It's just a quirk of biology. Sometimes people are born with physical defects, and we intervene.
No biggie. Nothing worth discriminating over, we're not nazis.

Well, you know what I mean, though.

[Ostroeuropa]

Sure they are defective.
They have defective genitals, and an operation is required to bring them into being healthy. What isn't true is the idea of a defective mind. And just like if someone were born with a completely operable defect it wouldn't be considered a huge deal, we shouldn't consider transsexuality a huge deal either. It's just a quirk of biology. Sometimes people are born with physical defects, and we intervene.
No biggie. Nothing worth discriminating over, we're not nazis.

Well, you know what I mean, though.

I enjoy being a pedant

[Sardakhar]

I'm asexual - I just have little interest in s-x. Otherwise, I'm straight.

[Tagmatium]

Well, you know what I mean, though.

I enjoy being a pedant

You monster.

I thought you pony-people were all about friendship and love and shit?

I'm asexual - I just have little interest in s-x. Otherwise, I'm straight.

Why the missing out of the "e" in "sex" when you've already got the same word in "asexual"?

[United Federation of Francis Republic]

Lesbian, stone butch, and proud of it.

Can you define Butch for me? it's never been clear to me. I've seen very disparate people claim to be butch and can't really find any underlying connection other than they are females. I tend to take their word for it.

A masculine lesbian. Their appearance or behavior are pretty masculine.

[Ostroeuropa]

Can you define Butch for me? it's never been clear to me. I've seen very disparate people claim to be butch and can't really find any underlying connection other than they are females. I tend to take their word for it.

A masculine lesbian. Their appearance or behavior are pretty masculine.

See, that's what I thought. But it'd mean that some of the people who said they are aren't

[Bottle]

So?

People who like MLP are people too, therefore as full of ignorance, bitterness and bile as the rest of us mere mortals.

His ignorance/close-mindedness is here for all to see, he's not changing his opinion and he's digging himself in deeper.

It's a lost cause, although that might give him a misplaced sense of victory.

Thats the point.
He has a pony flag and he's making us look bad. I usually confront people who agree with me or are my allies about their bullshit a lot quicker than my enemies.
The fact he is a brony is only a loose connection but I applied the principle nonetheless.

I respect the shit out of that.

[United Federation of Francis Republic]

A masculine lesbian. Their appearance or behavior are pretty masculine.

See, that's what I thought. But it'd mean that some of the people who said they are aren't

Really? How come? Butch is masculine, in their behavior or appearance, so, if they are not masculine, they might be andro or femme.
andro is not really masculine but not feminine, in the middle.

[Ostroeuropa]

See, that's what I thought. But it'd mean that some of the people who said they are aren't

Really? How come? Butch is masculine, in their behavior or appearance, so, if they are not masculine, they might be andro or femme.
andro is not really masculine but not feminine, in the middle.

The ones i'm thinking of were definitely feminine. I've also met some who fit the definition you gave, which is why i ended up confused.
Mostly I just decided it doesn't really effect me so not to bother with it.

[Choronzon]

>Transexuallity
> Trans thinks their something they're not
> People that think they're something they're not aren't mentally healthy
> People wish to normalize an unhealthy mental state

So because you think they're mentally unhealthy (and lets be clear here...it is just you and your ilk who keep saying they're mentally unhealthy) this naturally means it shouldn't be normalized.

Your answer is, as usual, a really round about way of saying "It should be ostracized because I don't like it."

Protip- people would take you way more seriously if you could come up with something better than "Things I find icky are bad."

[New England and The Maritimes]

No, they're generally perfectly aware of what their situation is. They have the brain circuitry that would go with the set of genitals which unfortunately is not the one they have.

Please, no one start attacking me and yelling at me and stuff. I just have a question.

Sex is determined by whether or not you have a y-chromosome. Males have y-chromosomes, females have x-chromosomes.
So, since a male has an x chromosome, I can understand male to female transsexuality, but where's the "brain circuitry" come from for female to male transsexuality?
It was actually Ende's monkey comment that made me think of this first, but I didn't ask it right away.

And, again, please, anyone who is reading this - do not attack me for asking an honest question.

Gender is a socially reinforced construction. It's not inherently harmful, but has been used to cause a tremendous amount of damage to people in the past and large groups of people are still trying to do this today.

[Bottle]

No, they're generally perfectly aware of what their situation is. They have the brain circuitry that would go with the set of genitals which unfortunately is not the one they have.

Please, no one start attacking me and yelling at me and stuff. I just have a question.

Sex is determined by whether or not you have a y-chromosome. Males have y-chromosomes, females have x-chromosomes.
So, since a male has an x chromosome, I can understand male to female transsexuality, but where's the "brain circuitry" come from for female to male transsexuality?

It's actually a lot more complicated at the genetic level. You can have individuals who are XY, yet who are physiologically female, because what really matters is the activation of a particular gene locus called SRY. If you have a Y chromosome but your SRY does not activate, then you will remain female (all fetuses start out as female) and you will look like a perfectly normal girl in terms of how your body develops.

You also need to remember that relatively little information is contained on the Y chromosome. The vast majority of coding for "brain circuitry" is not on the Y chromosome (indeed, I'm not sure there is any coding for "brain circuitry" contained on the Y at all, but this is not my area of expertise). You have 46 chromosomes and only one of them is the Y, after all...small wonder that there is so very little difference between "male brains" and "female brains"!

[New England and The Maritimes]

Please, no one start attacking me and yelling at me and stuff. I just have a question.

Sex is determined by whether or not you have a y-chromosome. Males have y-chromosomes, females have x-chromosomes.
So, since a male has an x chromosome, I can understand male to female transsexuality, but where's the "brain circuitry" come from for female to male transsexuality?

It's actually a lot more complicated at the genetic level. You can have individuals who are XY, yet who are physiologically female, because what really matters is the activation of a particular gene locus called SRY. If you have a Y chromosome but your SRY does not activate, then you will remain female (all fetuses start out as female) and you will look like a perfectly normal girl in terms of how your body develops.

You also need to remember that relatively little information is contained on the Y chromosome. The vast majority of coding for "brain circuitry" is not on the Y chromosome (indeed, I'm not sure there is any coding for "brain circuitry" contained on the Y at all, but this is not my area of expertise). You have 46 chromosomes and only one of them is the Y, after all...small wonder that there is so very little difference between "male brains" and "female brains"!

But... but... state scientist discover womans brain is size of squirrel!

[Vashtanaraada]

is metrosexual a sexuality? it applies 2 me......

[Ifreann]

is metrosexual a sexuality? it applies 2 me......

I think it's more an attitude towards traditionally female exclusive beauty products and treatments.

[Tmutarakhan]

Absolutely unacceptable. Nobody owes you an apology for your ignorance.

I'm not seeking apology, I'm challenging them to counterattack. I feel their anger, but it is pointless if you don't do anything about it. They may as well haven't responded.

We have explained to you what reality is. You have stubbornly chosen ignorance. What more is there to say?

[Ovisterra]

is metrosexual a sexuality? it applies 2 me......

I think it's more an attitude towards traditionally female exclusive beauty products and treatments.

Hey, I only smell like this because a girl attacked me with perfume earlier. It's not my fault. Shut up.

[Meryuma]

>Transexuallity
> Trans thinks their something they're not
> People that think they're something they're not aren't mentally healthy
> People wish to normalize an unhealthy mental state

Have you ever met a trans person?