Ga. mom shoots intruder 5 times, saves children

[Trollgaard]

She doesn't fucking have to. She didn't like the look of the guy, and decided not to. Then he proceeds to break in, found their hiding space, and got what was coming to him.

Thats a bad argument. She didnt have to open the door. THen its her damn fault that the guy broke in.

What the fuck? Are you fucking stupid? You must be to think that not answering your door means that people can break in.

[Mavorpen]

And thus her life was in immediate danger how?

She probably felt it was. A strange man breaking into her home while her, and her two children are home.

So are you backtracking?

And thus her life was in immediate danger how?

There's always the "what if" to her, he could've been out to kill her

Which wasn't my question.

[Insane Kidney Mentality]

She doesn't fucking have to. She didn't like the look of the guy, and decided not to. Then he proceeds to break in, found their hiding space, and got what was coming to him.

Thats a bad argument. She didnt have to open the door. THen its her damn fault that the guy broke in.

It's her fault, that he broke into her home?

Brilliant logic, sir. I'm appauled at your brilliance! [/sarcasm]

[Dilange]

Wow... just wow. That's your whole argument here? It's her fault the guy broke in because she refused to answer the door. She's a bad person for shooting the man because he never would have broken in if she'd just answered the door. Because home invasions NEVER start when someone answers the door when a stranger comes knocking.

She has a fucking right to not answer the door. I hardly ever answer my door. Matter of fact, I NEVER answer my door unless I'm expecting someone. Why? Because chances are I don't fucking know you and I don't want to talk to you. That's my right. Even if I do know you, if you show up unannounced, I'm still not going to answer. Her not answering the door is NOT an excuse for him to break in. She saw the guy from her office window. She already knew that he was not a person that she knows. So let's just open the door and see if the random stranger who is so insistent on getting in has a weapon or not... Great fucking plan, jackass.
I KNOW SO HARD A CONCEPT!!!

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Then its her fault that she made the robber believe no one was home. I find it funny that you believe that just because her house got broken into, doesnt mean its partly her fault. Victimization at its best.

[Galdius]

She doesn't fucking have to. She didn't like the look of the guy, and decided not to. Then he proceeds to break in, found their hiding space, and got what was coming to him.

Thats a bad argument. She didnt have to open the door. THen its her damn fault that the guy broke in.

Don't answer the door to someone, they break in, there for its my fault for him forcefully entering my home. Logic!!

[Trollgaard]

She probably felt it was. A strange man breaking into her home while her, and her two children are home.

So are you backtracking?

There's always the "what if" to her, he could've been out to kill her

Which wasn't my question.

The fuck?

[Hallistar]

She doesn't fucking have to. She didn't like the look of the guy, and decided not to. Then he proceeds to break in, found their hiding space, and got what was coming to him.

Thats a bad argument. She didnt have to open the door. THen its her damn fault that the guy broke in.

No it's not. The article did not mention her checking through a peep-hole or verbally asking 'who is it?', so I'm going to assume here that she didn't, and so yes it was odd that she didn't respond to the door, but it did not justify the guy breaking in.

[Priory Academy USSR]

Sorry, I thought America was a First World country. My mistake.

This is a horrific example of breaking and entering and rape in England. If the wife had been armed, the whole situation could have turned out differently.

That IS A FILM.

It did not happen in real life.


Sorry for posting this late, but I've only been off for the past few hours.

[The House of Isaac]

She probably felt it was. A strange man breaking into her home while her, and her two children are home.

So are you backtracking?

There's always the "what if" to her, he could've been out to kill her

Which wasn't my question.

We have talked about guns and intuition too much.

[The Black Forrest]

So she shot someone dead because he wanted to take her things.

Sorry, I don't particularly care for that.

Now she'll forever live with herself reliving that moment of killing that man - hope she's ok with that.

He could have raped her, he could have murderer her child, he could have done a lot of things.

LRN2GAMETHEORY

2 people who don't know how the other will react. She did what was in her best interest.

Waiting around to find out what the criminal wants would be ridiculous.

Game Theory is impartial and Game Theory is best.

People who study game theory don't say: LRN2GAMETHEORY

I am not so sure you understand that it is......

[Ralkovia]

Thats a bad argument. She didnt have to open the door. THen its her damn fault that the guy broke in.

What the fuck? Are you fucking stupid? You must be to think that not answering your door means that people can break in.

It's Game Theory Prisoner's Dilemma.

She did what was in her best interest, she didn't know what he was going to do and he didn't know what she was going to do. Putting a bullet in him was the best outcome for her so she did it.

[Mavorpen]

And thus her life was in immediate danger how?

The exact minute the intruder found her and cornered her in the closet-attic thing.

After smashing her door down with his crowbar, I would not expect for him to ask me how's my day been.

And you can prove that he intended to kill them?

[Dilange]

It's her fault, that he broke into her home?

Brilliant logic, sir. I'm appauled at your brilliance! [/sarcasm]

Technically. Do robbers usually rob houses when people are home? Usually no. If you are home and there is someone at your door, you answer it. Not go take your gun and make your closet Fort Irrational.

[Trollgaard]

The exact minute the intruder found her and cornered her in the closet-attic thing.

After smashing her door down with his crowbar, I would not expect for him to ask me how's my day been.

And you can prove that he intended to kill them?

That doesn't matter in the slightest.

[Mavorpen]

And you can prove that he intended to kill them?

That doesn't matter in the slightest.

It does when you definitely state that their lives were in danger as though it were a fact.

[Ralkovia]

The exact minute the intruder found her and cornered her in the closet-attic thing.

After smashing her door down with his crowbar, I would not expect for him to ask me how's my day been.

And you can prove that he intended to kill them?

It's game theory: Prisoner's Dilemma.

She did what was in her best interest at the time. Try to stop pretending that a criminal is going to say "I'M GOING TO RAPE YOU AND KILL YOUR CHILDREN."

[Dilange]

Thats a bad argument. She didnt have to open the door. THen its her damn fault that the guy broke in.

Don't answer the door to someone, they break in, there for its my fault for him forcefully entering my home. Logic!!

Played a part. As i said way earlier in this thread, a collective of fuckups.

[Trollgaard]

That doesn't matter in the slightest.

It does when you definitely state that their lives were in danger as though it were a fact.

I believe I said she probably thought their lives were in danger. And that is what matters.

[Insane Kidney Mentality]

The exact minute the intruder found her and cornered her in the closet-attic thing.

After smashing her door down with his crowbar, I would not expect for him to ask me how's my day been.

And you can prove that he intended to kill them?

You never asked if she could determine his intent was to kill.

You asked how her life was in immediate danger and I gave you the reason.

[Dilange]

And you can prove that he intended to kill them?

It's game theory: Prisoner's Dilemma.

She did what was in her best interest at the time. Try to stop pretending that a criminal is going to say "I'M GOING TO RAPE YOU AND KILL YOUR CHILDREN."

I love Game THeory, its so trollzy

[The House of Isaac]

It's her fault, that he broke into her home?

Brilliant logic, sir. I'm appauled at your brilliance! [/sarcasm]

Technically. Do robbers usually rob houses when people are home? Usually no. If you are home and there is someone at your door, you answer it. Not go take your gun and make your closet Fort Irrational.

So true, yet so many people can't see the truth in front of them and they know it to be true. That is the worst form of cowardice and stupidity I have seen.

[Mavorpen]

It's game theory: Prisoner's Dilemma.

She did what was in her best interest at the time. Try to stop pretending that a criminal is going to say "I'M GOING TO RAPE YOU AND KILL YOUR CHILDREN."

Try to stop putting words in my mouth.

[Miss Defied]

And once again, I have to ask, Mr. Fucking Know It All, how in god's green earth does she know that? How, how, does she know he's not armed with a gun? How does she know that he only has a crowbar? Oh, I guess the trespasser was buck naked, so it's pretty clear that the only thing he had on him was what's in his hand? Hey, this isn't a fucking movie or a video game! People carrying guns don't just walk around with them in hand waiting for a chance to shoot someone. How is she supposed to know that he doesn't have a gun tucked into his pants? Furthermore, from the sounds of the reports, when said trespasser finds the family, mom and criminal are pretty much face to face. He already has a crowbar out. So your reasoning is that she should have given this asshole the chance to attack her and her children? As for holding a gun on the guy and hoping that does the trick, I've already addressed that. It's a good way to get yourself hurt or killed. A good deal of home invasions end in the murder of the resident when said resident doesn't have the stones to pull the trigger and instead just sits there with a gun in hand hoping the criminal will run away. But I guess to your line of reasoning, it's okay if the mom and her two children get killed, so long as they gave the repeat offender a chance...

This is how she could have know. Are you ready? It might be hard to understand and hard to do but I think you can do it.

She could open the door and say hello.

I KNOW SO HARD A CONCEPT!!!

Since you refuse to familiarize yourself with the facts of the incident, you have forced me to post the whole goddam story. If you want to take a shortcut, as you seem to be the sort who would, pay attention to the bolded, underlined and colored italics.

Loganville - A Georgia mother shot an intruder five times in the face and neck at her home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville on Friday. She shot the stranger after he cornered her in the attic crawlspace where she ran to hide with her 9-year-old twins.

According to WSB-TV, Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman, said the woman was working in an upstairs office around 1 p.m. when she saw a strange man outside through a window of her home. The Atlanta Journal Constitution (AJC) reports the man knocked on the door of the house but the woman, unable to identify the visitor, refused to answer. When the visitor began ringing the doorbell persistently, she called her husband, Donnie Herman, who was at work.
Mr. Herman immediately dialed 911, while his 37-year-old wife hid their 9-year-old twins in the attic.
According CBS 6, when no one answered the door, the stranger reportedly went back to his car and returned with a crowbar. The Blaze reports the mother said that from her office window, she could see the suspect, whom police have identified as Paul Ali Slater, forcing his way into the house with a crowbar. After he forced his way into the house, he began rummaging through the family belongings.
According to The Blaze, he finally cornered the family in an attic crawlspace.
When Slater opened the closet in which the woman and her children were hiding, she fired six bullets at him. Five hit him in the face and neck.
According to WSBTV, Chapman said: "The perpetrator opens that door. Of course, at that time he’s staring at her, her two children and a .38 revolver."
Slater survived the five shots in the face and neck, Chapman said. After the woman ran out of bullets, she threatened to shoot again. The intruder, unaware that the woman had fired all her six rounds, began pleading for mercy.
Chapman said: "She’s standing over him, and she realizes she’s fired all six rounds. And the guy’s telling her to quit shooting."
The woman told him to stay on the ground or else she'd shoot. CBS 6 reports she ran to a neighbor’s home with her children. After she had left the house, Slater stumbled out and attempted to escape in his SUV, but because he was severely wounded, and bleeding profusely, he was weak and unable to control the car. He crashed in a wooded area and finally ended up in a nearby driveway where he collapsed.
Police found the 32-year-old intruder in the driveway, arrested him and took him to a nearby hospital. Police say he is expected to survive his rather unexpected ordeal. According to AJC, Paul Ali Slater is a native of Long Island and a resident of Gwinnet County, Georgia. He was released from jail in August on simple battery charges and three counts of probation violation after serving six months. He had been arrested on six other occasions since 2008, police say.
Chapman said that when they found Ali in a neighborhood driveway, he was crying and saying: "Help me. I'm close to dying."
The victim's husband, Donnie Herman, said he's proud of his wife. He praised her, saying: "My wife is a hero. She protected her kids. She did what she was supposed to do as responsible, prepared gun owner."
Herman told a reporter: "Her life is saved, and her kids' life is saved, and that's all I'd like to say."
According to WSBTV, Chapman told a reporter late Friday night that Slater has been placed on a ventilator with punctured lungs, a punctured liver and a punctured stomach. Chapman said he has four exit wounds. He said doctors will operate to repair the damage.
Police say they are charging Slater with burglary.

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[The House of Isaac]

It's game theory: Prisoner's Dilemma.

She did what was in her best interest at the time. Try to stop pretending that a criminal is going to say "I'M GOING TO RAPE YOU AND KILL YOUR CHILDREN."

I love Game THeory, its so trollzy

I like Chaos Theory better.

[Ralkovia]

It's her fault, that he broke into her home?

Brilliant logic, sir. I'm appauled at your brilliance! [/sarcasm]

Technically. Do robbers usually rob houses when people are home? Usually no. If you are home and there is someone at your door, you answer it. Not go take your gun and make your closet Fort Irrational.

So what your saying is the Jews deserved the Holocaust because we didn't leave when Adolf Hitler told us to leave.