Ga. mom shoots intruder 5 times, saves children

[Insane Kidney Mentality]

Apparently, this guy. Survived five shots to the face, five more than I would've said you're supposed to.

The ideology of not saying anything when someone is ringing the doorbell is to give them the impression that you're not home - so they'll go away. If you tell them you're home, they insistantly pest you until you address them. In this case, the man decided to do the logical thing when nobody answers and break down the door. Honestly, I blame all those door-to-door Mormons.

No, she didn't. Because she automatically assumed it was a criminal, and hid.

Assuming he is a criminal is one thing. He just proved her hunch right by breaking into her house with a crowbar.

[Bafuria]

Another case of guns saving lives. Good thing we have the second amendment.

Yeah because the intruder was definitely intent on murdering her and her children, that's why he knocked and rang the doorbell, to see if anyone was home. He assumed nobody was and broke in.

She murdered him, plain and simple, on a hunch. yay guns.

1. The woman retreated before firing.
2. The perp had a crowbar and had her cornered.
3. The perp survived.

[The House of Isaac]

They are slower, and rather heavy, I have held and swung a crowbar before. A smaller hammer is fast, and if she can get very close, he cannot do much, because he will lack the power behind his reach to hit her.

Yes, because everyone is a ninja. I would honestly be too scared to get up to him. Who knows? Maybe this guy is strong and heard she was coming. Getting close to a criminal is never a good idea. Shooting him is a safer way for her.

A criminal has rights too. I would be scared but I would use my inner rage to confront him, because I am a nervous person, and I need energy to doo anything confrontational.

[Senkaku]

First of all, if I were the mother I probably would have shot him too. That said, we have GOT to get better gun control in the U.S. . The whole "guns don't kill people, people kill people!" argument is a pile of crap. If someone wants to kill someone else and they have a gun, it'll be the gun that kills the person. Without a gun, it'd be much harder for that to happen. I do not understand why people are so obsessed with 'the right to bear arms'. We can't walk around with nukes or weaponized smallpox or guided missile destroyers. Why should we be able to walk around with rocket launchers and machine guns? Civilians simply do not need that kind of firepower. Semi-automatics...I don't know. We definitely need WAY better controls on them. But automatics should only be used by the military. Also, the Op should have told us the guy lived. I think the mom was doing her job as she wasn't sure what the guy would do and she was probably terrified, but she did seem a bit overly suspicious. I also think we need more gun control. Every other country that has had mass shootings has put in gun controls, and voila! Far fewer or less damaging(or both)shootings occurred.

I apologize if my venting was slightly off topic. I have strong feelings on this subject.

[Gauntleted Fist]

Apparently this one since she shot him in the face and neck area five times and he was still alive.

He was alive, but its not like he was still running around. He was definitely stopped.

He got back into his car and tried to drive away. So he was still under his own power for at least a few minutes after being shot.

He crashed because he couldn't control the car and ended up in somebody's driveway.

Does literally no one read any of the sources posted on the first page?

[Insane Kidney Mentality]

He was alive, but its not like he was still running around. He was definitely stopped.

He got back into his car and tried to drive away. So he was still under his own power for at least a few minutes after being shot.

He crashed because he couldn't control the car and ended up in somebody's driveway.

Does literally no one read any of the sources posted on the first page?

If anything, that guy has to get a prize for being one of the most resiliant bastards on the planet.

Nothing to remarkable for intellegence, though.

[Bafuria]

If you're yelling to him that you have a gun, high possibility is that he's already in your house.

Not only that, a gun is not a super weapon. People do not simply fall down once they've been shot, some even become more aggressive once they're wounded. Normally, a wounded person shall have a few minutes to react before they succumb to blood loss, and by then, anything in the world can happen.

Did you read the article? he was ringing the bell long enough for the woman to get her kids and gun and hide. More than enough time to yell GTFO. And in what world would being shot in the face not stop someone? It's a burgler, not a silver-back guerrilla.

There is no brain tissue in the face and neck, a shot to the head will not necessarily knock a person down unless it hits the person in the cerebellum.

[Miss Defied]

No, she didn't. Because she automatically assumed it was a criminal, and hid.

Assuming he is a criminal is one thing. He just proved her hunch right by breaking into her house with a crowbar.

Add to the fact she apparently watched him go to the car and get the crowbar and then started coming back towards the house.

[The House of Isaac]

First of all, if I were the mother I probably would have shot him too. That said, we have GOT to get better gun control in the U.S. . The whole "guns don't kill people, people kill people!" argument is a pile of crap. If someone wants to kill someone else and they have a gun, it'll be the gun that kills the person. Without a gun, it'd be much harder for that to happen. I do not understand why people are so obsessed with 'the right to bear arms'. We can't walk around with nukes or weaponized smallpox or guided missile destroyers. Why should we be able to walk around with rocket launchers and machine guns? Civilians simply do not need that kind of firepower. Semi-automatics...I don't know. We definitely need WAY better controls on them. But automatics should only be used by the military. Also, the Op should have told us the guy lived. I think the mom was doing her job as she wasn't sure what the guy would do and she was probably terrified, but she did seem a bit overly suspicious. I also think we need more gun control. Every other country that has had mass shootings has put in gun controls, and voila! Far fewer or less damaging(or both)shootings occurred.

I apologize if my venting was slightly off topic. I have strong feelings on this subject.

I culture down there is animalistic and crude. I live there, but I am a transplant. Another thing, Georgia has very tough gun laws, BTW. I mean The instead of I, sorry, I forget words.

[Khadgar]

Oh yay, ANOTHER gun thread.

Good thing we haven't discussed this topic to fucking death.

[Dilange]

I can't fucking believe some of you people. Like she shouldn't have shot him because he only had a crowbar.... of course, how she's supposed to know he only has a crowbar is beyond me.

Now, I suppose you could say that she should have not fired and just held him at gunpoint, and many of you already have. However, those of us with a concealed carry permit, or any handgun training at all, know that pulling a gun is not a game. You are only ever supposed to draw your weapon on someone when you truly believe that your life or the life of another is at stake, and with no hesitation about actually using the gun. It's a good thing some of you don't have guns, talking about trying to hold someone up during a home invasion... that's how good people die. You have no idea what a burglar or trespasser has on him/her, you have no idea what kind of individual that is. The one second you're deciding not to shoot is the one second this scum is pulling a gun out.

To think, I actually saw a post where someone said he had a fake gun that a friend had made look real. Well bravo, buddy, that's a great way to get killed. Sure, if a trespasser wasn't going to shoot you when breaking in, I wonder if pulling a gun on him, whether fake or not, will have the intended effect of making him leave, or possibly the opposite effect causing him to draw his weapon and kill you. Sounds like an awful chance to take, but it's your life.

Plain and simple, a criminal, a scumbag piece of human shit (6 arrests in 4 years in one county, and at least one of them a violent crime?) breaks into this woman's house. She has no idea who he is or what he wants, but she's had the sense to arm herself and hide her kids rather than playing chicken at the door screaming "I have a gun" as if warning a possible gun toting mad-man of that fact is a great idea. The man forces himself inside and she can hear him rummaging around, though whether he's stealing things or looking for the family, how would she know? Finally, after what may have been several tense minutes of hiding in a crawl space, the trespasser opens the door. Now we have a mother with two kids to worry about face to face with a large male trespasser who's already holding a crowbar, and may have god only knows what other weapons. Fortunately, rather than being a chicken-shit, this woman has the stones to pull the trigger in a justified situation in an attempt to kill the perpetrator.

As I said before, anyone with a concealed carry permit knows that you do not pull your gun on someone unless you actually intend to use it. You never pull your gun on someone hoping that threat alone will solve the situation. I have a 10mm hand gun with a 8 round clip and room for one in the slide. They're all hollow-points. Anyone ever breaks into my home, there will be no warnings, no misses. There will be some very large holes in a very unfortunate trespasser, end of story. These people made a CHOICE, to do crime. Everyone goes through tough shit, but not everyone steals and burglarizes people to get through it, so you can only blame the situation so much before you have to take a good look at the person making the choices. If you make the choice to do crime then you are accepting all of the risks that go along with that crime. Risks like jail or prison, risks like betrayal or back-stabbing by other criminals, and risks like breaking into a home in a country full of people that have a legal right to defend themselves and getting shot full of holes.

Doesnt clarify that almost killing the man is right. The same thing could be said where a man cut off a robber's appendage with a samurai sword during a robbery a while back.

[Sailsia]

"According to WSBTV, Chapman told a reporter late Friday night that Slater has been placed on a ventilator with punctured lungs, a punctured liver and a punctured stomach. Chapman said he has four exit wounds. He said doctors will operate to repair the damage."

It sounds like she didn't shoot at his face.

[The Taryegeans]

He got back into his car and tried to drive away. So he was still under his own power for at least a few minutes after being shot.

He crashed because he couldn't control the car and ended up in somebody's driveway.

Does literally no one read any of the sources posted on the first page?

If anything, that guy has to get a prize for being one of the most resiliant bastards on the planet.

Nothing to remarkable for intellegence, though.

I'd say about average resilience. After all, they're people who have lost limbs, been blown up, jumped on grenades etc and still were under their own power for much longer than minutes.

[Dilange]

"According to WSBTV, Chapman told a reporter late Friday night that Slater has been placed on a ventilator with punctured lungs, a punctured liver and a punctured stomach. Chapman said he has four exit wounds. He said doctors will operate to repair the damage."

It sounds like she didn't shoot at his face.

Sounds like hes on life support.

[New Nassrau]

Yes, because everyone is a ninja. I would honestly be too scared to get up to him. Who knows? Maybe this guy is strong and heard she was coming. Getting close to a criminal is never a good idea. Shooting him is a safer way for her.

A criminal has rights too. I would be scared but I would use my inner rage to confront him, because I am a nervous person, and I need energy to doo anything confrontational.

Except, I doubt many people would do that... little ole' me wouldn't... besides, how would a hammer help when "According to The Blaze, he finally cornered the family in an attic crawlspace."

[Sailsia]

Oh yay, ANOTHER gun thread.

Good thing we haven't discussed this topic to fucking death.

You're 32 pages too late.

[The Black Forrest]

They are slower, and rather heavy, I have held and swung a crowbar before. A smaller hammer is fast, and if she can get very close, he cannot do much, because he will lack the power behind his reach to hit her.

Y'know how people who say they have a firearm for self-protection are labeled Internet Tough Guys because of how, in stress, they couldn't do X, Y, and Z?

The above comment is a thousand times worse than anything ever said concerning use of a firearm for self-defense.

Nahhh. ITGs are the people who basically declare "IF IT WAS ME, I WOULD......!"

[Sailsia]

"According to WSBTV, Chapman told a reporter late Friday night that Slater has been placed on a ventilator with punctured lungs, a punctured liver and a punctured stomach. Chapman said he has four exit wounds. He said doctors will operate to repair the damage."

It sounds like she didn't shoot at his face.

Sounds like hes on life support.

Point being it's more reasonable that she shot him in the torso.

[The House of Isaac]

A criminal has rights too. I would be scared but I would use my inner rage to confront him, because I am a nervous person, and I need energy to doo anything confrontational.

Except, I doubt many people would do that... little ole' me wouldn't... besides, how would a hammer help when "According to The Blaze, he finally cornered the family in an attic crawlspace."

A hammer is short, she can still fight. A crowbar is long, his weapon is less useful then.

[Gauntleted Fist]

If anything, that guy has to get a prize for being one of the most resiliant bastards on the planet.

Nothing to remarkable for intellegence, though.

He was shot with a .38. Adrenaline could keep you going after that. Apparently he was shot in the lung, liver, stomach, and one other place that had exit ones. One of the bullets might have gotten hung up or something, but he might have only been hit 4 times.

[The Black Forrest]

Oh yay, ANOTHER gun thread.

Good thing we haven't discussed this topic to fucking death.

How long have you been here?

[Chernoslavia]

I can't fucking believe some of you people. Like she shouldn't have shot him because he only had a crowbar.... of course, how she's supposed to know he only has a crowbar is beyond me.

Now, I suppose you could say that she should have not fired and just held him at gunpoint, and many of you already have. However, those of us with a concealed carry permit, or any handgun training at all, know that pulling a gun is not a game. You are only ever supposed to draw your weapon on someone when you truly believe that your life or the life of another is at stake, and with no hesitation about actually using the gun. It's a good thing some of you don't have guns, talking about trying to hold someone up during a home invasion... that's how good people die. You have no idea what a burglar or trespasser has on him/her, you have no idea what kind of individual that is. The one second you're deciding not to shoot is the one second this scum is pulling a gun out.

To think, I actually saw a post where someone said he had a fake gun that a friend had made look real. Well bravo, buddy, that's a great way to get killed. Sure, if a trespasser wasn't going to shoot you when breaking in, I wonder if pulling a gun on him, whether fake or not, will have the intended effect of making him leave, or possibly the opposite effect causing him to draw his weapon and kill you. Sounds like an awful chance to take, but it's your life.

Plain and simple, a criminal, a scumbag piece of human shit (6 arrests in 4 years in one county, and at least one of them a violent crime?) breaks into this woman's house. She has no idea who he is or what he wants, but she's had the sense to arm herself and hide her kids rather than playing chicken at the door screaming "I have a gun" as if warning a possible gun toting mad-man of that fact is a great idea. The man forces himself inside and she can hear him rummaging around, though whether he's stealing things or looking for the family, how would she know? Finally, after what may have been several tense minutes of hiding in a crawl space, the trespasser opens the door. Now we have a mother with two kids to worry about face to face with a large male trespasser who's already holding a crowbar, and may have god only knows what other weapons. Fortunately, rather than being a chicken-shit, this woman has the stones to pull the trigger in a justified situation in an attempt to kill the perpetrator.

As I said before, anyone with a concealed carry permit knows that you do not pull your gun on someone unless you actually intend to use it. You never pull your gun on someone hoping that threat alone will solve the situation. I have a 10mm hand gun with a 8 round clip and room for one in the slide. They're all hollow-points. Anyone ever breaks into my home, there will be no warnings, no misses. There will be some very large holes in a very unfortunate trespasser, end of story. These people made a CHOICE, to do crime. Everyone goes through tough shit, but not everyone steals and burglarizes people to get through it, so you can only blame the situation so much before you have to take a good look at the person making the choices. If you make the choice to do crime then you are accepting all of the risks that go along with that crime. Risks like jail or prison, risks like betrayal or back-stabbing by other criminals, and risks like breaking into a home in a country full of people that have a legal right to defend themselves and getting shot full of holes.

Thank you!

[Miss Defied]

"According to WSBTV, Chapman told a reporter late Friday night that Slater has been placed on a ventilator with punctured lungs, a punctured liver and a punctured stomach. Chapman said he has four exit wounds. He said doctors will operate to repair the damage."

It sounds like she didn't shoot at his face.

Sometimes bullets move around quite a bit once inside a body.

Also, maybe shes a bad shot. Aimed for the head, but didn't quite hit the intended target.

[Galdius]

Except, I doubt many people would do that... little ole' me wouldn't... besides, how would a hammer help when "According to The Blaze, he finally cornered the family in an attic crawlspace."

A hammer is short, she can still fight. A crowbar is long, his weapon is less useful then.

Are you serious? Because this woman is definitely a fucking hand to hand combat expert!

[Sailsia]

"According to WSBTV, Chapman told a reporter late Friday night that Slater has been placed on a ventilator with punctured lungs, a punctured liver and a punctured stomach. Chapman said he has four exit wounds. He said doctors will operate to repair the damage."

It sounds like she didn't shoot at his face.

Sometimes bullets move around quite a bit once inside a body.

Also, maybe shes a bad shot. Aimed for the head, but didn't quite hit the intended target.

That kind of speculation is just as bad as saying had she of not shot him the intruder would have killed all 3 of them.