Ga. mom shoots intruder 5 times, saves children

[Neo Art]

Eventually we'll reach a point where you can shoot someone dead for stepping on your lawn and it would be accepted as self defense.

You would get in trouble. Make sure you drag the person into your house.

Plant a gun on him too. You know, that spare you keep in your dresser just for emergencies.

Along with the vial of crack, in case he's colored.

[Hrokr]

I haven't really formulated an opinion on gun control, but I'll just say that I don't really blame her.

If I was hiding in a closet with my children and they opened the closet door, I'd probably shoot out of sheer terror. Then again, I am completely spineless.

[Dilange]

Wow.

So a woman open fires, out of fear, on a man who broke into her house with the intent to rob it. I see nothing in this that the man intended to KILL anyone. He had a crowbar for breaking in. Hes a plan. Why not point the gun at the man without firing the gun? He obviously had no weapon to counter it. She luckily didnt kill the man after shooting him in the face and neck.

This is why I hate guns. Everyone praises that the gun saved the family from a harmless robber who would have run away at the sight of people in the house, but instead ignore how this lady almost panic-killed this man. Such double standards.

I love how you assume the robber is harmless and would have run away. While that is one possibility, it is not necessarily what would have happened.

You do not know much about robberies right? WHen people are caught in the act, they run.

[Wikkiwallana]

A man can overpower a woman

That is not categorically true.

[The Black Forrest]

I would rather him take my TV or something else. Why would you ever want to someone's life over a trivial thing like material wealth? Human life is far more important.

The man would have harmed her children

Evidence?

Actions listed suggest he was looking to rob an empty home.

[San-Silvacian]

If I invaded someones home and they simply walked out and said 'gtfo' I'd probably assault them.

Especially if they saw my face and good look at it. Though that would pretty much end up with me committing murder.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. A common robber would run, because if they knew you were there, then cops are not too far behind.

Depends on the neighborhood.

I'd still do it.

I think I need to chat with a head doc sometime. I don't think I'm all 'right' in the noggin.

[United Aryan Asian Alliance]

It takes a very skewed mindset to think a home invader is a victim here. This is as terrible as that Brady Campaign ad that advises women to get raped rather then use guns for self defense.

[Neo Art]

If I was hiding in a closet with my children and they opened the closet door, I'd probably shoot out of sheer terror. Then again, I am completely spineless.

Congratulations, you've won the "only fucking HONEST person in an internet gun control debate" prize. Sorry for the dust, we...well, it's been sitting for a long time...

[Avenio]

Clearly the man should have been armed so he could have protected himself from an unprovoked attack.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Ah, well, that's good at least.

Yes. I care about the robber's life. Most won't, but I do.

He could have killed the three, and you still care about the robber? Wtf?

I don't base my opinions on "could haves."

[The Black Forrest]

I love how you assume the robber is harmless and would have run away. While that is one possibility, it is not necessarily what would have happened.

You do not know much about robberies right? WHen people are caught in the act, they run.

Especially if they find a gun pointed at them.

They also have this habit of moving on if a voice answers the doorbell.....

[Caninope]

Another case of guns saving lives. Good thing we have the second amendment.

Yeah because the intruder was definitely intent on murdering her and her children, that's why he knocked and rang the doorbell, to see if anyone was home. He assumed nobody was and broke in.

She murdered him, plain and simple, on a hunch. yay guns.

Nope, not murder.

Title 16, Chapter 3, Article 2, Section 23

O.C.G.A. 16-3-23 (2010)
16-3-23. Use of force in defense of habitation


A person is justified in threatening or using force against another when and to the extent that he or she reasonably believes that such threat or force is necessary to prevent or terminate such other's unlawful entry into or attack upon a habitation; however, such person is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if:

(1) The entry is made or attempted in a violent and tumultuous manner and he or she reasonably believes that the entry is attempted or made for the purpose of assaulting or offering personal violence to any person dwelling or being therein and that such force is necessary to prevent the assault or offer of personal violence;

(2) That force is used against another person who is not a member of the family or household and who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using such force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred; or

(3) The person using such force reasonably believes that the entry is made or attempted for the purpose of committing a felony therein and that such force is necessary to prevent the commission of the felony.

Sauce.

[Gauthier]

You would get in trouble. Make sure you drag the person into your house.

Plant a gun on him too. You know, that spare you keep in your dresser just for emergencies.

Along with the vial of crack, in case he's colored.

You don't need the vial of crack if he's a colored teenager.

[Chetssaland]

I don't see how anyone can blame the mom though. If someone breaks into a house, I would say you have the right to shoot...

[Paddy O Fernature]

It takes a very skewed mindset to think a home invader is a victim here. This is as terrible as that Brady Campaign ad that advises women to get raped rather then use guns for self defense.

Again, Welcome to NS. Tis the norm around here sadly.

[Caninope]

So she shot someone dead because he wanted to take her things.

Sorry, I don't particularly care for that.

Now she'll forever live with herself reliving that moment of killing that man - hope she's ok with that.

No, she shot someone dead because he invaded her home where she and two children were at.

[Dilange]

Depends on the neighborhood.

I'd still do it.

I think I need to chat with a head doc sometime. I don't think I'm all 'right' in the noggin.

I own a fake gun but had someone make it look real. My house was broken into when I was home. I came downstairs with the fake gun and the man bolted out of my house.

[Neo Art]

Yeah because the intruder was definitely intent on murdering her and her children, that's why he knocked and rang the doorbell, to see if anyone was home. He assumed nobody was and broke in.

She murdered him, plain and simple, on a hunch. yay guns.

Nope, not murder.

Title 16, Chapter 3, Article 2, Section 23

O.C.G.A. 16-3-23 (2010)
16-3-23. Use of force in defense of habitation


A person is justified in threatening or using force against another when and to the extent that he or she reasonably believes that such threat or force is necessary to prevent or terminate such other's unlawful entry into or attack upon a habitation; however, such person is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if:

(1) The entry is made or attempted in a violent and tumultuous manner and he or she reasonably believes that the entry is attempted or made for the purpose of assaulting or offering personal violence to any person dwelling or being therein and that such force is necessary to prevent the assault or offer of personal violence;

(2) That force is used against another person who is not a member of the family or household and who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using such force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred; or

(3) The person using such force reasonably believes that the entry is made or attempted for the purpose of committing a felony therein and that such force is necessary to prevent the commission of the felony.

Sauce.

While I appreciate your legal dilligence and willingness to actually review criminal code, and at least begin us on the road to discussing Georgia's Castle Doctrine statute, I think the far easier argument for why it's not murder is the fact that he's not actually dead.

[Stedicules]

snip

you're right. nobody in the history of USA has ever gone to jail for something that should've been labeled self-defense.

[Wikkiwallana]

So now that's one story of guns actually doing good to.....what? 50 instances of them being used for ill? Sorry but this one story is not going to change my view that guns cause more problems than they solve.

http://gunssavelives.net/

The story mentioned here is like third on this list.

Gee, that site isn't biased at all, nope, no sirree.

[Neo Art]

Plant a gun on him too. You know, that spare you keep in your dresser just for emergencies.

Along with the vial of crack, in case he's colored.

You don't need the vial of crack if he's a colored teenager.

Probably has his own then, amirite?

[Chetssaland]

It takes a very skewed mindset to think a home invader is a victim here. This is as terrible as that Brady Campaign ad that advises women to get raped rather then use guns for self defense.

Again, Welcome to NS. Tis the norm around here sadly.

I wouldn't call it the norm just because a few people think the intruder is the victim.

[United Aryan Asian Alliance]

He could have killed the three, and you still care about the robber? Wtf?

I don't base my opinions on "could haves."

I guess the police should only act when crimes are already committed, and never attempt to prevent it.

[Gaveo]

He could have killed the three, and you still care about the robber? Wtf?

I don't base my opinions on "could haves."

Still the man was taking things that wasn't his. Don't tell me that you think this is fine.

[Wikkiwallana]

Here's my million dollar question. Has anyone confirmed whether or not the robber was armed?

I'm still waiting on confirmation he was a robber, and not someone on a legitimate errand concerned when there was absolutely no answer.