Ga. mom shoots intruder 5 times, saves children

[Dilange]

Never said that. I said the first time, you answer the door when someone is knocking. If you just stand up there and just do nothing as this man pounds on the door for an extended time period, you are giving the illusion that no ones home. That was her fault. However, the man committed a crime to break and enter and intent of robbery. He discovered her as he opened an area and got shot. Saying that this man deserved to die is just terrible. Hes still a man.

However, when you shove words into my mouth that I didnt say or call me names, I feel that you are just arguing without reading.

You don't have to answer the door. its odd if you don't, but you don't have to. Get off your high horse there, bud.

Get off yours. Rationally, people answer the door when people knock. Just because you dont know them doesnt mean you dont. Thats paranoia. Not going to say for the wrong reasons, because the same man broke into her house.

[The House of Isaac]

the woman fired six bullets at the suspect, five of which hit alleged suspect Paul Ali Slater in the face and neck area.

ummm, what kind of gun was she using?

A .38, I believe.

[Insane Kidney Mentality]

You never asked if she could determine his intent was to kill.

You asked how her life was in immediate danger and I gave you the reason.

So...you expect him to have just accidentally slipped, fell, and hit the woman with the crowbar? Because other than that, I'm not sure how having an intention to kill isn't putting the woman in immediate danger.

Honestly, sometimes I wonder if you ask these questions for the sake of argument...

In any case, the intruder is cornering the woman into a closet-attic thing with a crowbar in hand. He may have the intent to kill you, he may not. All you know is, he's a stranger in the area, and he's in your home with a crowbar. Most likely, in the rational mindset of things, he has an intent to harm you.

You could try and chance it by wrestling him for the crowbar, but that's a pretty stupid idea. But hey, you have a gun at your side! Obviously, shooting him would dictate the means of lethal force, but with no other weapons at your side and you being cornered, what are you supposed to do? This guy is here and obviously knows he isn't supposed to be here, asking him to leave would be nice, but it's not the best option you have if he decides he doesn't want to leave. Unless you have some special technique for pistol whipping him to submission without falling to harm by the crowbar, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do here.

[The House of Isaac]

I'm leaving.

[Dilange]

Never said that. I said the first time, you answer the door when someone is knocking. If you just stand up there and just do nothing as this man pounds on the door for an extended time period, you are giving the illusion that no ones home. That was her fault. However, the man committed a crime to break and enter and intent of robbery. He discovered her as he opened an area and got shot. Saying that this man deserved to die is just terrible. Hes still a man.

However, when you shove words into my mouth that I didnt say or call me names, I feel that you are just arguing without reading.

Thats a bad argument. She didnt have to open the door. THen its her damn fault that the guy broke in.

^^That's basically you saying it was her fault the guy broke in.

Not totally, but a small part.

[Hallistar]

the woman fired six bullets at the suspect, five of which hit alleged suspect Paul Ali Slater in the face and neck area.

ummm, what kind of gun was she using?

Revolver, she should've used a shotgun though, due to it being better suited for close-quarter situations where you don't want to risk being disarmed and want to ensure the bullets don't miss the first time. As such, she wouldn't have been able/needed to fire 5 or six times, and it would've still immobilized him.

[Trollgaard]

You don't have to answer the door. its odd if you don't, but you don't have to. Get off your high horse there, bud.

Get off yours. Rationally, people answer the door when people knock. Just because you dont know them doesnt mean you dont. Thats paranoia. Not going to say for the wrong reasons, because the same man broke into her house.

Generally you do, but you don't have to. So saying that its her fault she her home got broken into is ludicrous.

[Priory Academy USSR]

No wonder American kids aren't getting outdoors enough if opening the front door is a life or death situation. I mean, who'd play a game of football when there are snipers lurking in the woods ready to shoot you at a moment's notice?

[Ralkovia]

Not at all. You're implying that the outcome is her fault. I'm implying "We, The Jews, deserved the Holocaust, because we didn't leave when we were told to leave."

Im implying that is part of her fault, its a collective of fuckups. However, when someone refers to my religion and uses it as an argument against me I find it insulting, and I dont care if you are Jewish either. I dont take kindly to people who do that.

I'm using OUR religion to show you that your point is wrong. Either A. You admit the Jews partially deserved the Holocaust for not Leaving when a criminal told them too or B. She was correct in putting a bullet in the man who broke into her house.

[Agymnum]

I congratulate the mother on protecting her five children, although I question whether the suspect actually intended to harm her family, as he clearly intended for this to be a simple gut-and-run robbery operation. What kind of murderer rings a doorbell and attracts suspicion toward himself?

Still, though, well-done on the mother's part. Protecting children is always important, even if it does come at the waste of human life. Shame the police didn't get there earlier so he might've been saved.

[Hallistar]

^^That's basically you saying it was her fault the guy broke in.

Not totally, but a small part.

How is it just a small part?

[Dilange]

Get off yours. Rationally, people answer the door when people knock. Just because you dont know them doesnt mean you dont. Thats paranoia. Not going to say for the wrong reasons, because the same man broke into her house.

Generally you do, but you don't have to. So saying that its her fault she her home got broken into is ludicrous.

Saying that she didnt have to answer the door says that you refuse to believe that her paranoia played a part into this, and saying that it doesnt is just stupid.

[The Black Forrest]

Technically. Do robbers usually rob houses when people are home? Usually no. If you are home and there is someone at your door, you answer it. Not go take your gun and make your closet Fort Irrational.

So what your saying is the Jews deserved the Holocaust because we didn't leave when Adolf Hitler told us to leave.

Non-sequitur score................. 9/10

[Mavorpen]

You could try and chance it by wrestling him for the crowbar, but that's a pretty stupid idea. But hey, you have a gun at your side! Obviously, shooting him would dictate the means of lethal force, but with no other weapons at your side and you being cornered, what are you supposed to do? This guy is here and obviously knows he isn't supposed to be here, asking him to leave would be nice, but it's not the best option you have if he decides he doesn't want to leave. Unless you have some special technique for pistol whipping him to submission without falling to harm by the crowbar, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do here.

So, you expect the intruder to see that you have a gun, and blindly throw himself at you with a short range weapons such as a crowbar? Are intruders honestly that stupid most of the time?

[Insane Kidney Mentality]

You don't have to answer the door. its odd if you don't, but you don't have to. Get off your high horse there, bud.

Get off yours. Rationally, people answer the door when people knock. Just because you dont know them doesnt mean you dont. Thats paranoia. Not going to say for the wrong reasons, because the same man broke into her house.

No, rationally, you don't open the door unless you are fairly certain of the person's intent or know the individual. This guy was not from the area, and you don't know his intent.

You're expecting me to open the door for a man who I do not know, and do not know the intents of, and that if I don't, any harm inflicted to me is thereforth my fault?

[Laeriland]

I congratulate the mother on protecting her five children, although I question whether the suspect actually intended to harm her family, as he clearly intended for this to be a simple gut-and-run robbery operation. What kind of murderer rings a doorbell and attracts suspicion toward himself?

Still, though, well-done on the mother's part. Protecting children is always important, even if it does come at the waste of human life. Shame the police didn't get there earlier so he might've been saved.

He is still alive

[Agymnum]

I congratulate the mother on protecting her five children, although I question whether the suspect actually intended to harm her family, as he clearly intended for this to be a simple gut-and-run robbery operation. What kind of murderer rings a doorbell and attracts suspicion toward himself?

Still, though, well-done on the mother's part. Protecting children is always important, even if it does come at the waste of human life. Shame the police didn't get there earlier so he might've been saved.

He is still alive

Huh. Must've missed that when I scanned the article.

Hopefully he's doing alright.

[Galdius]

Generally you do, but you don't have to. So saying that its her fault she her home got broken into is ludicrous.

Saying that she didnt have to answer the door says that you refuse to believe that her paranoia played a part into this, and saying that it doesnt is just stupid.

So, I can break into someones home if they don't answer first?

[Dilange]

Im implying that is part of her fault, its a collective of fuckups. However, when someone refers to my religion and uses it as an argument against me I find it insulting, and I dont care if you are Jewish either. I dont take kindly to people who do that.

I'm using OUR religion to show you that your point is wrong. Either A. You admit the Jews partially deserved the Holocaust for not Leaving when a criminal told them too or B. She was correct in putting a bullet in the man who broke into her house.

Nice complex question. Not answering. Again, you have to use our religion to bend my view, because theres no other way you can prove me wrong. Its a dumb scare tactic, but Ive seen it before. So I will say that her not answering the door played a part, but this thing about the Holocaust has nothing to do with this, so when you have a real argument...please come back.

[Insane Kidney Mentality]

You could try and chance it by wrestling him for the crowbar, but that's a pretty stupid idea. But hey, you have a gun at your side! Obviously, shooting him would dictate the means of lethal force, but with no other weapons at your side and you being cornered, what are you supposed to do? This guy is here and obviously knows he isn't supposed to be here, asking him to leave would be nice, but it's not the best option you have if he decides he doesn't want to leave. Unless you have some special technique for pistol whipping him to submission without falling to harm by the crowbar, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do here.

So, you expect the intruder to see that you have a gun, and blindly throw himself at you with a short range weapons such as a crowbar? Are intruders honestly that stupid most of the time?

You don't know what he may do.

If he's a fairly reasonable guy, he may back off and leave. If he's insane as lord knows what, he may just smash your brains in with a crowbar.

All you know is, he's not supposed to be here, he's armed, and you're cornered with your family. You're not left with many options.

[Ralkovia]

Saying that she didnt have to answer the door says that you refuse to believe that her paranoia played a part into this, and saying that it doesnt is just stupid.

So, I can break into someones home if they don't answer first?

I wouldn't mind meeting up outside Galdius's house to put this to the test.

[Dilange]

Saying that she didnt have to answer the door says that you refuse to believe that her paranoia played a part into this, and saying that it doesnt is just stupid.

So, I can break into someones home if they don't answer first?

I dont know, can you?

[Trollgaard]

Generally you do, but you don't have to. So saying that its her fault she her home got broken into is ludicrous.

Saying that she didnt have to answer the door says that you refuse to believe that her paranoia played a part into this, and saying that it doesnt is just stupid.

Paranoia...turned out to be right...so it isn't really paranoia now is it?

[Insane Kidney Mentality]

Saying that she didnt have to answer the door says that you refuse to believe that her paranoia played a part into this, and saying that it doesnt is just stupid.

So, I can break into someones home if they don't answer first?

Yup! It's there fault for not answering or being home.

[Dilange]

Saying that she didnt have to answer the door says that you refuse to believe that her paranoia played a part into this, and saying that it doesnt is just stupid.

Paranoia...turned out to be right...so it isn't really paranoia now is it?

If she keeps doing then yes. But, in this case it was right.