Ga. mom shoots intruder 5 times, saves children

[Stedicules]

I don't base my opinions on "could haves."

I guess the police should only act when crimes are already committed, and never attempt to prevent it.

that's how the police work. do you ever see a cop arriving at the home DURING a murder? no, they come after the fact.

[Nidaria]

And I mean everyone is totally going to go on a shooting spree because they are all totally prone to mental breakdowns, and it couldn't at all be society's fault for causing said mental breakdowns, nope, not at all.

Wow.

It's like every time someone says the word "gun" the average IQ of the room lowers by 20 points.

Ad hominem, and you missed the point of the person whom you quoted.

[Dilange]

Here's my million dollar question. Has anyone confirmed whether or not the robber was armed?

I'm still waiting on confirmation he was a robber, and not someone on a legitimate errand concerned when there was absolutely no answer.

I only heard he had a crowbar.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

So she shot someone dead because he wanted to take her things.

Sorry, I don't particularly care for that.

Now she'll forever live with herself reliving that moment of killing that man - hope she's ok with that.

No, she shot someone dead because he invaded her home where she and two children were at.

Apparently as others have said he wasn't killed.

There's something about America whereby every reaction to any danger is to just blow the other person's head off.

It's not terribly healthy, IMO, and a terrible way of going about living.

[Conventiala]

The man's still alive, from what I read. . . even if she killed him, it wouldn't be "murder." That would imply she was intent on taking his life. She was protecting her children.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

I suspect we're supposed to draw some inferences from this.

[Wikkiwallana]

Yeah because the intruder was definitely intent on murdering her and her children, that's why he knocked and rang the doorbell, to see if anyone was home. He assumed nobody was and broke in.

She murdered him, plain and simple, on a hunch. yay guns.

I wouldn't call “rummaging through my stuff” a hunch.

Is rummaging through your stuff generally lethal to you or anyone you know?

[Cromarty]

So she shot someone dead because he wanted to take her things.

Sorry, I don't particularly care for that.

Now she'll forever live with herself reliving that moment of killing that man - hope she's ok with that.

No, she shot someone dead because he invaded her home where she and two children were at.

Which in civilised societies, is usually a crime.

[Gun Manufacturers]

So, this woman retreats with her children, and when the criminal discovers where they were hiding (I assume they had nowhere else to retreat to), she peppers him 5 times in the head and neck with .38 cal slugs. AND HE LIVES? I hope he remembers this day forever (and changes his life for the better), and I hope she gets some more range time (she would have been in deep shit if she'd missed with all six shots).

no, i don't think she would've been in 'deep shit' if she'd missed. If someone fired 5 shots at me and missed I'd count myself lucky and leave. You don't need to fire your gun in these kind of situations to keep your family safe.

Since it was a revolver, and she fired 6 times, he probably could have figured out that the revolver was now empty. Unless she was trained by Jerry Michulek, she probably wouldn't have had a chance to reload before he was on her.

[The Black Forrest]

It takes a very skewed mindset to think a home invader is a victim here. This is as terrible as that Brady Campaign ad that advises women to get raped rather then use guns for self defense.

Again, Welcome to NS. Tis the norm around here sadly.

I thought the norm was one liners?

[Paddy O Fernature]

Here's my million dollar question. Has anyone confirmed whether or not the robber was armed?

I'm still waiting on confirmation he was a robber, and not someone on a legitimate errand concerned when there was absolutely no answer.

Are you fucking kidding me?

[Stedicules]

It takes a very skewed mindset to think a home invader is a victim here. This is as terrible as that Brady Campaign ad that advises women to get raped rather then use guns for self defense.

he is a victim. he's a victim of a shooting that could've been avoided if the woman used common sense.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

Here's my million dollar question. Has anyone confirmed whether or not the robber was armed?

I'm still waiting on confirmation he was a robber, and not someone on a legitimate errand concerned when there was absolutely no answer.

He had prior convictions and was armed with a crowbar, from what I can gather.

[The Black Forrest]

no, i don't think she would've been in 'deep shit' if she'd missed. If someone fired 5 shots at me and missed I'd count myself lucky and leave. You don't need to fire your gun in these kind of situations to keep your family safe.

Since it was a revolver, and she fired 6 times, he probably could have figured out that the revolver was now empty. Unless she was trained by Jerry Michulek, she probably wouldn't have had a chance to reload before he was on her.

People count shots as they are being hit?

[Lancaster of Wessex]

I don't base my opinions on "could haves."

Still the man was taking things that wasn't his. Don't tell me that you think this is fine.

Of course I don't think it's fine - he has no right to steal items that are not his.

What I don't agree with is the pumping five bullets in his body - that's called excessive use of force in my mind, but in America it's called "reasonable force."

[Rentarium]

Ive had 'harmless' robbers break in to my home. They may just leave, or they may see a kid (like I was) and continue into the house.

Thankfully my screaming brought my uncle and cousin into the room. My cousin beat him with a tee ball bat.


This is complete shit. Thankfully the woman is okay. Hopefully the criminal rethinks his life choices.

[Kouralia]

If I invaded someones home and they simply walked out and said 'gtfo' I'd probably assault them.

Especially if they saw my face and good look at it. Though that would pretty much end up with me committing murder.

Moron...

That's why you rob places where people won't recognise you! And wear items of clothing which will make you hard to recognise!



Also, would you do the same if the person walked out, said 'GTFO' and pointed a revolver at you?

[The Black Forrest]

Here's my million dollar question. Has anyone confirmed whether or not the robber was armed?

I'm still waiting on confirmation he was a robber, and not someone on a legitimate errand concerned when there was absolutely no answer.

Maybe he was a determined delivery man. Just making sure the package arrived and was looking for a pen to leave a note?

[Chetssaland]

I'm not on the "YEAH GUNS FUCK YEAH" side of the fence here, but I can't wrap my head around why the guy who broke into the house is the victim.

[Dilange]

no, i don't think she would've been in 'deep shit' if she'd missed. If someone fired 5 shots at me and missed I'd count myself lucky and leave. You don't need to fire your gun in these kind of situations to keep your family safe.

Since it was a revolver, and she fired 6 times, he probably could have figured out that the revolver was now empty. Unless she was trained by Jerry Michulek, she probably wouldn't have had a chance to reload before he was on her.

Are you that stupid? If you were just shot in the face and neck and survived, you would attack the lady instead of worrying what else she may have? Really you wouldnt leave after almost dying?

[Gauthier]

You don't need the vial of crack if he's a colored teenager.

Probably has his own then, amirite?

Nah, just that self-defense is more plausible when you shoot colored teenagers, especially in Florida.

[Tsuntion]

I don't know if anyone noticed, but the man didn't die. After emptying the mag, she threatened to shoot again and he begged for mercy (obviously still alive) and that is when everything finally stopped. Cops got there blah blah blah.

No, that's when she stopped which then let the situation stop. The situation might have stopped earlier had she acted differently.

[Wikkiwallana]

So now that's one story of guns actually doing good to.....what? 50 instances of them being used for ill? Sorry but this one story is not going to change my view that guns cause more problems than they solve.

http://rense.com/general76/univ.htm

http://www.cato.org/policy-report/march ... top-crimes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrESAKfGmmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm9o3vhKoF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blq_a_lqDBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4t1a_v9sG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1zZGe3f0mc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNZ0z1h ... 6g&index=3

I could go on if you'd like.

Rense.com isn't a source, it's a frothing font of lunacy. The CATO thing is completely devoid of citations and statistics, and is, in fact, an opinion piece. And youtube links without explanation or summary are not looked upon kindly here, as we don't have infinite time and patience.

[Arkinesia]

Wow.

So a woman open fires, out of fear, on a man who broke into her house with the intent to rob it. I see nothing in this that the man intended to KILL anyone. He had a crowbar for breaking in. Hes a plan. Why not point the gun at the man without firing the gun? He obviously had no weapon to counter it. She luckily didnt kill the man after shooting him in the face and neck.

This is why I hate guns. Everyone praises that the gun saved the family from a harmless robber who would have run away at the sight of people in the house, but instead ignore how this lady almost panic-killed this man. Such double standards.

I agree with this much. She probably could have given the man an opportunity to surrender since police were on the way (the call would have been prioritized due to a confirmed situation).

[Stedicules]

Since it was a revolver, and she fired 6 times, he probably could have figured out that the revolver was now empty. Unless she was trained by Jerry Michulek, she probably wouldn't have had a chance to reload before he was on her.

People count shots as they are being hit?

well of course! the first thought in my mind when a searing hot lead projectile is destroying my body is how many are doing it.