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Postby New West Guiana » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:58 pm

Released FBI documents reveal plans to assassinate OWS activists
Jason Leopold, an investigative journalist for Truth-Out, has obtained FBI documents - through the Freedom of Information Act - relating to Occupy Wall Street. Most of the pages in the documents are redacted, and show concerns of cyber threats against the financial sector. However, there are questions of assassination plots against Occupy activists in Houston, Texas. Because the documents have redactions, it is not clear who or what group was planning the assassinations.

On page 61, the section reads: “An identified [redacted] of October planned to engage in sniper attacks against protesters in Houston, Texas, if deemed necessary. An identified [redacted] had received intelligence that indicated the protesters in New York and Seattle planned similar protests in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Austin, Texas. [Redacted] planned to gather intelligence against the leaders of the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles.”

The bottom of page 68 and the top of page 69 reads: “On October 13, 2011, writer sent via email an excerpt [redacted] regarding FBI Houston’s [redacted] to all IA’s, SSRA’s and SSA [redacted]. This [redacted] identified the exploitation of the Occupy Movement by [redacted] interested in developing a long-term plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire.” ragingchickenpress.org

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According to internal documents newly released by the FBI, the agency spearheaded a nationwide law enforcement effort to investigate and monitor the Occupy Wall Street movement. In certain documents, divisions of the FBI refer to the Occupy Wall Street protests as a "criminal activity" or even "domestic terrorism." The Huffington Post

The internal papers were obtained by the Partnership for Civil Justice fund via a Freedom of Information Act Request. The fund, a legal nonprofit that focuses on civil rights, says it believes the 112 pages of documents, available for public viewing on its website, are only "the tip of the iceberg." The Huffington Post

Documents show the spying abuses of the FBI’s “Campus Liaison Program” in which the FBI in Albany and the Syracuse Joint Terrorism Task Force disseminated information to “sixteen different campus police officials,” and then “six additional campus police officials.” infoshop.org

Campus officials were in contact with the FBI for information on OWS. A representative of the State University of New York at Oswego contacted the FBI for information on the OWS protests and reported to the FBI on the SUNY-Oswego Occupy encampment made up of students and professors. infoshop.org

According to the new documents, the FBI began meeting with representatives of the New York Stock Exchange and other businesses as early as August 2011, a month before the Zuccotti Park protests. The Huffington Post

According to the documents, the FBI coordinated extensively with private companies, including banks that feared they could be affected by Occupy protests. The Huffington Post
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The Occupy Wall Street movement, which began on September 17, 2011 in New York City's Wall Street financial district has been rallying against social and economic inequality, greed, corruption and the perceived undue influence of corporations on government-particularly from the financial services sector. occupywallst.org

Among the Occupy movement's prime concerns is that large corporations and the global financial system control the world in a way that disproportionately benefits a minority, undermines democracy and is unstable. The Huffington Post

Occupy Wall Street has managed to turn the attention of America’s politicians and citizens to the dismal state of income inequality and economic mobility in the U.S. Think Progress

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Yep our government doing everything in their power to keep us safe,.....I mean the banks safe from us. I don't really know what is the most disturbing, the fact that these documents show that the govt fears its own people (that's how its supposed to work) or the fact a peaceful movement was the planned target of FBI assassinations.

On page 61, the section reads: “An identified [redacted] of October planned to engage in sniper attacks against protesters in Houston, Texas, if deemed necessary. An identified [redacted] had received intelligence that indicated the protesters in New York and Seattle planned similar protests in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Austin, Texas. [Redacted] planned to gather intelligence against the leaders of the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles.”
The bottom of page 68 and the top of page 69 reads: “On October 13, 2011, writer sent via email an excerpt [redacted] regarding FBI Houston’s [redacted] to all IA’s, SSRA’s and SSA [redacted]. This [redacted] identified the exploitation of the Occupy Movement by [redacted] interested in developing a long-term plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire.” ragingchickenpress.org


I'm only really rambling because simply i'm awe struck, but this is why the OWS movement was so violently suppressed by police and Russia and Iran literally mocked the US of how they handled the movement and condemning the actions taken against the protesters. OWS is a terrorist organization?

According to the new documents, the FBI began meeting with representatives of the New York Stock Exchange and other businesses as early as August 2011, a month before the Zuccotti Park protests. The Huffington Post


Yep all suspicions proven, the FBI and NYPD was simply working as a front for the banks and the billionaires who brought the world economy to a halt.
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Postby Warinemachine » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:00 pm

No, The FBI is clamping down on a disorderly Mob that slept in the streets. In the event that what you say is true, The goverment would just be taking out a terrorist who plans to occupy wall street and take down the economy for a little.

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Postby Ralkovia » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:06 pm

Warinemachine wrote:No, The FBI is clamping down on a disorderly Mob that slept in the streets. In the event that what you say is true, The goverment would just be taking out a terrorist who plans to occupy wall street and take down the economy for a little.

This is a joke
It would have cleaned the streets of rabble.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:08 pm

Sounds a bit conspiracy thoery to me. Perhaps the documents actually refer to discovering a plot by a group of private citizens or another government altogether
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SaintB wrote:Sounds a bit conspiracy thoery to me. Perhaps the documents actually refer to discovering a plot by a group of private citizens or another government altogether

Still, it would have cleaned the streets of rabble.

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Postby Zathganastan » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:10 pm

No were in this document does it say that the FBI plans to kill any OWS activists nor does it clearly identify the group in question that will be carrying out the sniper attacks.All that can be gained from this document is that the FBI has information on a person of group which might be targeting the occupy movement, so until further evidence came be brought froth I see little reason to label this as an FBI assassination.
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Postby Hallistar » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:14 pm

Operation Northwoods was planned by the government (CIA, other officials, etc) to kill innocent American citizens in terrorist attacks (Planes and ships blowing up, etc) back in 1962, in order to justify an invasion of Cuba by blaming it on them using fabricated 'evidence'. Fortunately John F. Kennedy vetoed the plan, but it does go to show you that such an alleged plan by the FBI to assassinate OWS activists, while shocking, wouldn't be that, well, .. impossible.
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Postby Quebec and Atlantic Canada » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:16 pm

Oh come on, PressTV is the least reliable news source this side of RT.

The Guardian article only says that the FBI coordinated a "crackdown" on OWS. They didn't plan to assassinate anybody.

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:17 pm

Hallistar wrote:Operation Northwoods was planned by the government (CIA, other officials, etc) to kill innocent American citizens in terrorist attacks (Planes and ships blowing up, etc) back in 1962, in order to justify an invasion of Cuba by blaming it on them using fabricated 'evidence'. Fortunately John F. Kennedy vetoed the plan, but it does go to show you that such a plan by the FBI to assassinate OWS activists, while shocking, wouldn't be that impossible.


And other than taking up public space, what has OWS done really? Assassinating its members would only give it more publicity and might get it to actually *do* something.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:20 pm

If this is true, it gives me hope for our government.

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:If this is true, it gives me hope for our government.

Thank you, FBI.


Should be targeting Hamas defenders imo.
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Ralkovia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:If this is true, it gives me hope for our government.

Thank you, FBI.


Should be targeting Hamas defenders imo.

Government assassinations are cool when it happens to people you don't like I guess.

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Ralkovia wrote:
Should be targeting Hamas defenders imo.

Government assassinations are cool when it happens to people you don't like I guess.


Especially people who just support a group's views as opposed to actually supplying them with shit.
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I really doubt that the FBI was intending to go around and begin "assassinating" the leaders of the OWS movement considering it claims to not have any leaders, and besides wouldn't it be cheaper for them to just have the local police scare everyone away with horses, and water cannons, and threats of arrest?
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Greto wrote:I really doubt that the FBI was intending to go around and begin "assassinating" the leaders of the OWS movement considering it claims to not have any leaders, and besides wouldn't it be cheaper for them to just have the local police scare everyone away with horses, and water cannons, and threats of arrest?


And when was the last time the news bothered to cover OWS? An assassination would only give relevance back to OWS.
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Greto wrote:I really doubt that the FBI was intending to go around and begin "assassinating" the leaders of the OWS movement considering it claims to not have any leaders, and besides wouldn't it be cheaper for them to just have the local police scare everyone away with horses, and water cannons, and threats of arrest?

Well from the looks of the article it might not be the FBI doing the assassinating.
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Greto wrote:I really doubt that the FBI was intending to go around and begin "assassinating" the leaders of the OWS movement considering it claims to not have any leaders, and besides wouldn't it be cheaper for them to just have the local police scare everyone away with horses, and water cannons, and threats of arrest?

Airfare, guns, vehicles, bullets, and safehouses for maybe seven people that could be passed off as mobsters or something as opposed to large police operations involving several hundred people for hours, days or maybe even weeks across dozens of major cities across the country that would attract tons of news coverage and political shitstorms is more expensive?
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Wisconsin9 wrote:
Greto wrote:I really doubt that the FBI was intending to go around and begin "assassinating" the leaders of the OWS movement considering it claims to not have any leaders, and besides wouldn't it be cheaper for them to just have the local police scare everyone away with horses, and water cannons, and threats of arrest?

Airfare, guns, vehicles, bullets, and safehouses for maybe seven people that could be passed off as mobsters or something as opposed to large police operations involving several hundred people for hours, days or maybe even weeks across dozens of major cities across the country that would attract tons of news coverage and political shitstorms is more expensive?

Wisconsin09 has a point.

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Postby The Imperial Kingdoms of Westovia » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:34 pm

New West Guiana wrote:Released FBI documents reveal plans to assassinate OWS activists
Jason Leopold, an investigative journalist for Truth-Out, has obtained FBI documents - through the Freedom of Information Act - relating to Occupy Wall Street. Most of the pages in the documents are redacted, and show concerns of cyber threats against the financial sector. However, there are questions of assassination plots against Occupy activists in Houston, Texas. Because the documents have redactions, it is not clear who or what group was planning the assassinations.

On page 61, the section reads: “An identified [redacted] of October planned to engage in sniper attacks against protesters in Houston, Texas, if deemed necessary. An identified [redacted] had received intelligence that indicated the protesters in New York and Seattle planned similar protests in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Austin, Texas. [Redacted] planned to gather intelligence against the leaders of the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles.”

The bottom of page 68 and the top of page 69 reads: “On October 13, 2011, writer sent via email an excerpt [redacted] regarding FBI Houston’s [redacted] to all IA’s, SSRA’s and SSA [redacted]. This [redacted] identified the exploitation of the Occupy Movement by [redacted] interested in developing a long-term plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire.” ragingchickenpress.org

HIGHLIGHTS

According to internal documents newly released by the FBI, the agency spearheaded a nationwide law enforcement effort to investigate and monitor the Occupy Wall Street movement. In certain documents, divisions of the FBI refer to the Occupy Wall Street protests as a "criminal activity" or even "domestic terrorism." The Huffington Post

The internal papers were obtained by the Partnership for Civil Justice fund via a Freedom of Information Act Request. The fund, a legal nonprofit that focuses on civil rights, says it believes the 112 pages of documents, available for public viewing on its website, are only "the tip of the iceberg." The Huffington Post

Documents show the spying abuses of the FBI’s “Campus Liaison Program” in which the FBI in Albany and the Syracuse Joint Terrorism Task Force disseminated information to “sixteen different campus police officials,” and then “six additional campus police officials.” infoshop.org

Campus officials were in contact with the FBI for information on OWS. A representative of the State University of New York at Oswego contacted the FBI for information on the OWS protests and reported to the FBI on the SUNY-Oswego Occupy encampment made up of students and professors. infoshop.org

According to the new documents, the FBI began meeting with representatives of the New York Stock Exchange and other businesses as early as August 2011, a month before the Zuccotti Park protests. The Huffington Post

According to the documents, the FBI coordinated extensively with private companies, including banks that feared they could be affected by Occupy protests. The Huffington Post
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The Occupy Wall Street movement, which began on September 17, 2011 in New York City's Wall Street financial district has been rallying against social and economic inequality, greed, corruption and the perceived undue influence of corporations on government-particularly from the financial services sector. occupywallst.org

Among the Occupy movement's prime concerns is that large corporations and the global financial system control the world in a way that disproportionately benefits a minority, undermines democracy and is unstable. The Huffington Post

Occupy Wall Street has managed to turn the attention of America’s politicians and citizens to the dismal state of income inequality and economic mobility in the U.S. Think Progress

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Yep our government doing everything in their power to keep us safe,.....I mean the banks safe from us. I don't really know what is the most disturbing, the fact that these documents show that the govt fears its own people (that's how its supposed to work) or the fact a peaceful movement was the planned target of FBI assassinations.

On page 61, the section reads: “An identified [redacted] of October planned to engage in sniper attacks against protesters in Houston, Texas, if deemed necessary. An identified [redacted] had received intelligence that indicated the protesters in New York and Seattle planned similar protests in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Austin, Texas. [Redacted] planned to gather intelligence against the leaders of the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles.”
The bottom of page 68 and the top of page 69 reads: “On October 13, 2011, writer sent via email an excerpt [redacted] regarding FBI Houston’s [redacted] to all IA’s, SSRA’s and SSA [redacted]. This [redacted] identified the exploitation of the Occupy Movement by [redacted] interested in developing a long-term plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire.” ragingchickenpress.org


I'm only really rambling because simply i'm awe struck, but this is why the OWS movement was so violently suppressed by police and Russia and Iran literally mocked the US of how they handled the movement and condemning the actions taken against the protesters. OWS is a terrorist organization?

According to the new documents, the FBI began meeting with representatives of the New York Stock Exchange and other businesses as early as August 2011, a month before the Zuccotti Park protests. The Huffington Post


Yep all suspicions proven, the FBI and NYPD was simply working as a front for the banks and the billionaires who brought the world economy to a halt.



What documents did you read? Even with certain parts of the document removed, it is clear that the FBI was investigating a particular group identified as plotting to assassinate OWS leaders. This probably explains why no OWS leaders were assassinated. I am not saying that the FBI is not capable of such a thing, I am only saying that you are doing a lot of unfounded speculation.

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FBI document: "Someone or something considered employing assassination against OWS protesters."
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Wisconsin9 wrote:
Greto wrote:I really doubt that the FBI was intending to go around and begin "assassinating" the leaders of the OWS movement considering it claims to not have any leaders, and besides wouldn't it be cheaper for them to just have the local police scare everyone away with horses, and water cannons, and threats of arrest?

Airfare, guns, vehicles, bullets, and safehouses for maybe seven people that could be passed off as mobsters or something as opposed to large police operations involving several hundred people for hours, days or maybe even weeks across dozens of major cities across the country that would attract tons of news coverage and political shitstorms is more expensive?

Interesting you didn't bother including the word 'assassination' in there, given that it would cause a much huger shitstorm than a police crackdown ever could.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:38 pm

Tubbsalot wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Airfare, guns, vehicles, bullets, and safehouses for maybe seven people that could be passed off as mobsters or something as opposed to large police operations involving several hundred people for hours, days or maybe even weeks across dozens of major cities across the country that would attract tons of news coverage and political shitstorms is more expensive?

Interesting you didn't bother including the word 'assassination' in there, given that it would cause a much huger shitstorm than a police crackdown ever could.

I did read the word assassination. But in order for it to be established that the FBI was responsible—assuming they actually did carry out a series of assassinations—the assassins would first have to be caught, or at the very least identified. If they planned it decently, then they'd never even been seen, thus the government's role in the assassinations would never be revealed. There would be conspiracy theories, yes, but it would be like the theories that the CIA killed Kennedy.
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Postby Warinemachine » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:39 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:Interesting you didn't bother including the word 'assassination' in there, given that it would cause a much huger shitstorm than a police crackdown ever could.

I did read the word assassination. But in order for it to be established that the FBI was responsible—assuming they actually did carry out a series of assassinations—the assassins would first have to be caught, or at the very least identified. If they planned it decently, then they'd never even been seen, thus the government's role in the assassinations would never be revealed. There would be conspiracy theories, yes, but it would be like the theories that the CIA killed Kennedy.

Which brings us to the scarier point, It may be true.. but probably not.

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Postby Tubbsalot » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:40 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:Interesting you didn't bother including the word 'assassination' in there, given that it would cause a much huger shitstorm than a police crackdown ever could.

I did read the word assassination. But in order for it to be established that the FBI was responsible—assuming they actually did carry out a series of assassinations—the assassins would first have to be caught, or at the very least identified. If they planned it decently, then they'd never even been seen, thus the government's role in the assassinations would never be revealed. There would be conspiracy theories, yes, but it would be like the theories that the CIA killed Kennedy.

So what? Doesn't have to be proven that the government is performing the assassinations for the shitstorm to occur. Assassinations are leagues above crackdowns in terms of seriousness.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:41 pm

Warinemachine wrote:Which brings us to the scarier point, It may be true..

No, it's definitely not true.

Whatever you think of the intel agencies they're not stupid enough to assassinate peaceful domestic protesters. That's the sort of behaviour which could get an agency shut down entirely.
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