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What is your political ideology?

Anarcho-Capitalist
48
6%
Fascist
57
7%
Neo-Conservative
25
3%
Conservative
112
13%
Classical Liberal
74
9%
Modern Liberal
73
9%
Social Democrat
107
13%
Democratic Socialist
139
17%
Socialist
62
7%
Other (specify below)
144
17%
 
Total votes : 841
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Torcularis Septentrionalis
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:17 am

CTALNH wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:*promotion of rape against women
*Promotion of protection for rapists
*promotion of the view that female police officers are sexual objects.

Are you actually trying to demean your opponent by twisting his words?

What are you a 12 year old?

Actually he's already demonstrated that these are all things he believes to be true.
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Moving Forward Inc
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Postby Moving Forward Inc » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:17 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Moving Forward Inc wrote:Where did I say that women are worth less than men?
Also, if you are going to keep repeating "What you're saying is bullshit" could you prove it?

*promotion of rape against women
*Promotion of protection for rapists
*promotion of the view that female police officers are sexual objects.

1. Correct.
I also advocate the same for men.
2. Depends.
Don't see how that would be sexist.
3. No.
If other people viewed female police officers as sexual objects, that would not benefit me.
This test is biased and has stupid questions, but anyways:
Old (from when my nation was founded):
Economic Right: 6.50
Social Libertarian:-3.67
New (11 December 2012):
Economic Right: 2.50
Social Libertarian: -5.23
Be aware that I am only so near to the centre of the economic axe because this test associates being right-wing with crony capitalism, trickle down, and letting business be held to lower standards than individuals under law.

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CTALNH
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Postby CTALNH » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:17 am

Varijnland wrote:I suppose I should mention that I was being sarcastic. Still, fascism isn't Nazism though.

Fascism =/= National Socialism...
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist
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Trotskylvania
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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:18 am

CTALNH wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:*promotion of rape against women
*Promotion of protection for rapists
*promotion of the view that female police officers are sexual objects.

Are you actually trying to demean your opponent by twisting his words?

What are you a 12 year old?

No, he's legitimately pro-rape, something I'd hope even a Stalinist might find repulsive.
Moving Forward Inc wrote:Might makes right.
The only justification a man needs to rape another is the desire and the ability.
That is both objective and scientific.
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Trotskylvania
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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:19 am

CTALNH wrote:
Varijnland wrote:I suppose I should mention that I was being sarcastic. Still, fascism isn't Nazism though.

Fascism =/= National Socialism...

All national socialists are fascists. Not all fascists are national socialists.
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Gorgashia
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Postby Gorgashia » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:19 am

Varijnland wrote:I supose I should mention that I was being sarcastic. Still, fascism isn't nazism though.


Correct. That would be saying that socialism is Stalinism.
Nazism is just a very radical branch of Fascism.

CTALNH wrote:
Varijnland";p="<a href="tel:12267203">12267203</a> wrote:I suppose I should mention that I was being sarcastic. Still, fascism isn't Nazism though.

Fascism =/= National Socialism...


Explain.
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Varijnland
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Postby Varijnland » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:20 am

CTALNH wrote:
Varijnland wrote:I suppose I should mention that I was being sarcastic. Still, fascism isn't Nazism though.

Fascism =/= National Socialism...

No, Nazism=/= National Socialism

Retiring from NS, I wish you all the best in your future endevours :)

- Rasmus


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Cvtopia
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Postby Cvtopia » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:21 am

Moving Forward Inc wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:*promotion of rape against women
*Promotion of protection for rapists
*promotion of the view that female police officers are sexual objects.

1. Correct.
I also advocate the same for men.
2. Depends.
Don't see how that would be sexist.
3. No.
If other people viewed female police officers as sexual objects, that would not benefit me.

Disgusting. Purely disgusting.

Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.92 -5.62
http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/191732/

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Alignment: Chaotic Good
Likes: Right-libertarianism, minarchism, anarcho-capitalism, liberalism (European), Internet piracy, freedom of speech, Non-Aggression Principle, Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, secessionist movements in general, Switzerland, New Zealand
Dislikes: Socialism, communism, monarchism, authoritarianism, monarchism, restrictions on speech, copyright, China, Russia, USA, UK
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CTALNH
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Postby CTALNH » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:21 am

Moving Forward Inc wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:*promotion of rape against women
*Promotion of protection for rapists
*promotion of the view that female police officers are sexual objects.

1. Correct.
I also advocate the same for men.
2. Depends.
Don't see how that would be sexist.
3. No.
If other people viewed female police officers as sexual objects, that would not benefit me.

Can't you just cut their b@#$ off with a rusty razor and be done with it?
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist
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Torcularis Septentrionalis
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:21 am

I don't, honestly, know exactly what ideology I fit into... I don't trust those tests because of how limited they are, but I know that I lean at least quite close to some branch of communism.
The Andromeda Islands wrote:This! Is! A! Bad! Idea!
Furious Grandmothers wrote:Why are you talking about murder when we are talking about abortion? Murdering a fetus is impossible. It's like smelling an echo. You're not making sense.



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CTALNH
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Postby CTALNH » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:21 am

Varijnland wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Fascism =/= National Socialism...

No, Nazism=/= National Socialism

Your an idiot...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
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"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist
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CTALNH
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Postby CTALNH » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:23 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I don't, honestly, know exactly what ideology I fit into... I don't trust those tests because of how limited they are, but I know that I lean at least quite close to some branch of communism.

Do you support democide of all your political enemies?
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist
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Gorgashia
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Founded: Dec 26, 2012
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Postby Gorgashia » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:23 am

CTALNH wrote:
Varijnland wrote:No, Nazism=/= National Socialism

Your an idiot....


Again, please explain.
Syndicalist Celts. Bluntly put.

"Dude...nice firearms rights and everything...but your society is seriously messed up. :P" - Orellana.

Just your typical Canadian on the internet. TG if me you want to have a chat/debate/whatever.

"<Emerita> When Entropy goes "naw bro, unlivable"
<Emerita> Shit is indeed, unlivable."

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<Daemyrs> Nothing makes sense there
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Torcularis Septentrionalis
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:23 am

CTALNH wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I don't, honestly, know exactly what ideology I fit into... I don't trust those tests because of how limited they are, but I know that I lean at least quite close to some branch of communism.

Do you support democide of all your political enemies?

No. ;_____; Hurting people is bad
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Furious Grandmothers wrote:Why are you talking about murder when we are talking about abortion? Murdering a fetus is impossible. It's like smelling an echo. You're not making sense.



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CTALNH
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Postby CTALNH » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:24 am

Gorgashia wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Your an idiot....


Again, please explain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

Nazism (German: Nationalsozialismus; English long form National Socialism)
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist
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Cvtopia
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Postby Cvtopia » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:24 am

CTALNH wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:I don't, honestly, know exactly what ideology I fit into... I don't trust those tests because of how limited they are, but I know that I lean at least quite close to some branch of communism.

Do you support democide of all your political enemies?

As a Stalinist, is that what you believe?

Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.92 -5.62
http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/191732/

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Alignment: Chaotic Good
Likes: Right-libertarianism, minarchism, anarcho-capitalism, liberalism (European), Internet piracy, freedom of speech, Non-Aggression Principle, Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, secessionist movements in general, Switzerland, New Zealand
Dislikes: Socialism, communism, monarchism, authoritarianism, monarchism, restrictions on speech, copyright, China, Russia, USA, UK
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Varijnland
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Postby Varijnland » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:24 am

CTALNH wrote:
Varijnland wrote:No, Nazism=/= National Socialism

Your an idiot...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

Where's my idiot? What have you done with him?!

Retiring from NS, I wish you all the best in your future endevours :)

- Rasmus


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CTALNH
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Postby CTALNH » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:24 am

Cvtopia wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Do you support democide of all your political enemies?

As a Stalinist, is that what you believe?

Of course not......

I believe in never ending Revolutionary terror!Muhahahahahah

Not kidding....Muhahahahahaha
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist
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Cvtopia
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Postby Cvtopia » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:25 am

CTALNH wrote:
Cvtopia wrote:As a Stalinist, is that what you believe?

Of course not......

I believe in never ending Revolutionary terror!Muhahahahahah

Not kidding....Muhahahahahaha

Okay... that's a pretty serious ideology you've got there...

Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.92 -5.62
http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/191732/

click here
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Likes: Right-libertarianism, minarchism, anarcho-capitalism, liberalism (European), Internet piracy, freedom of speech, Non-Aggression Principle, Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, secessionist movements in general, Switzerland, New Zealand
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Moving Forward Inc
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Postby Moving Forward Inc » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:26 am

CTALNH wrote:
Moving Forward Inc wrote:1. Correct.
I also advocate the same for men.
2. Depends.
Don't see how that would be sexist.
3. No.
If other people viewed female police officers as sexual objects, that would not benefit me.

Can't you just cut their b@#$ off with a rusty razor and be done with it?

If you have the desire and the ability.
Those are the two requirements for an action.
This test is biased and has stupid questions, but anyways:
Old (from when my nation was founded):
Economic Right: 6.50
Social Libertarian:-3.67
New (11 December 2012):
Economic Right: 2.50
Social Libertarian: -5.23
Be aware that I am only so near to the centre of the economic axe because this test associates being right-wing with crony capitalism, trickle down, and letting business be held to lower standards than individuals under law.

"Democracy is the road to socialism"
- Karl Marx
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Khodoristan
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Postby Khodoristan » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:26 am

Christian Democrat. Pretty much centrist, maybe just slightly left-of-center.
Economic Left/Right: -3.88, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.69 (centrist)
DERECON: 1 2 3 4 5

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Against: Iran, Pakistan, China, DPRK, Venezuela, racism, sexism, abortion, Islam, conservatism, military aggression

I'm a nihilistic Catholic. Yes, we do exist.
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Gorgashia
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Postby Gorgashia » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:27 am

CTALNH wrote:
Gorgashia wrote:
Again, please explain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

Nazism (German: Nationalsozialismus; English long form National Socialism)


Thank you for explaining.

Now, can you explain how Fascism =/= Nazism?
Syndicalist Celts. Bluntly put.

"Dude...nice firearms rights and everything...but your society is seriously messed up. :P" - Orellana.

Just your typical Canadian on the internet. TG if me you want to have a chat/debate/whatever.

"<Emerita> When Entropy goes "naw bro, unlivable"
<Emerita> Shit is indeed, unlivable."

"<Daemyrs> NSG is the warp
<Daemyrs> Nothing makes sense there
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:28 am

Gorgashia wrote:
CTALNH wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

Nazism (German: Nationalsozialismus; English long form National Socialism)


Thank you for explaining.

Now, can you explain how Fascism =/= Nazism?


Nazism is a sub-form of Fascism, Fascism is not Nazism, however Nazism is fascism

Think of Fascism at the top and then lines diverge to other styles of fascism, Nazism being one of them, then their is Francoism, italian fascism etc etc
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CTALNH
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Postby CTALNH » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:29 am

Cvtopia wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Of course not......

I believe in never ending Revolutionary terror!Muhahahahahah

Not kidding....Muhahahahahaha

Okay... that's a pretty serious ideology you've got there...

Marx supported it,Lenin supported it,Stalin supported it and hell even Trotsky supported it...
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist
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Varijnland
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Postby Varijnland » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:29 am

CTALNH wrote:
Gorgashia wrote:
Again, please explain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

Nazism (German: Nationalsozialismus; English long form National Socialism)

Wait, you've just proved my point..........

Unless I don't know what (=/=) means

Retiring from NS, I wish you all the best in your future endevours :)

- Rasmus


P.S stay off drugs
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