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[POLL] What is your political ideology?

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What is your political ideology?

Anarcho-Capitalist
48
6%
Fascist
57
7%
Neo-Conservative
25
3%
Conservative
112
13%
Classical Liberal
74
9%
Modern Liberal
73
9%
Social Democrat
107
13%
Democratic Socialist
139
17%
Socialist
62
7%
Other (specify below)
144
17%
 
Total votes : 841

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The Godly Nations
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Postby The Godly Nations » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:45 am

New Conway wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:Leave dead ideologies to rest in peace, you bloody necromancer.

You can't tell me what to do!


As a 17th century Monarchist, I can.

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New Sapienta
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Founded: Sep 28, 2011
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Postby New Sapienta » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:45 am

New Laikland wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:Perhaps because millions died under it.

A symbol can be corrupeted.

Twice as many died under the American flag.

Over 60 million died under the Chinese Flag

I hardly think 6 million dead coupled with all those medical and technology advancements are worth corrupting a symbol's meaning.

People then died under a war flag, and I can guarentee you lots of people see the US flag negatively, along with the Chinese flag.

The fact is the swatzika was used and is still used by Nazis. A symbol can mean more than one thing.

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The Multiversal Species Alliance
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Founded: Dec 13, 2011
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Postby The Multiversal Species Alliance » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:45 am

Anarchist.
In regards to RP,see my factbook:
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_ ... l=factbook
My nation absolutely DOES represent my beliefs.
my author avatar: Garious, who's based on the author of this nation

Telegrams welcome.

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North Calaveras
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Posts: 16483
Founded: Mar 22, 2007
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:46 am

New Sapienta wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Not my problem, dictator has negative connotations to yet you reccomended it.

It does, but not as much as despot.

Calling yourself something other than dictator would make you sound silly, dear Leader.



You use the title I use for my country on NS :hug: Dear/Great Leader

You are now my ally

idk i interchange the term benevolent dictatorship/despot meh whatever i feel like using.
Government: Romanist Ceasarist Dictatorship
Political Themes: Nationalism, Romanticism, Ceasarism, Militarism, Social Liberalism, Cult of Personality
Ethnic Groups: American, Latino, Filipino

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Anarkadia
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Posts: 340
Founded: Sep 21, 2012
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Postby Anarkadia » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:46 am

I had to vote "other". My politics is included in my sig, but for those too lazy to check it I would say I'm a libertarian communist in the platformist/especifista tradition of anarchism.
Anarcho-communist federation of the region Anarkadia.

¡Viva la Comunismo Anarquísta! ¡Muerte al Fascismo!

We are a horizontal federation of autonomous communities - not a nation-state. The governing body and economy are completely decentralized.
NSWiki Entry - NSEconomy - NSTracker
Pro: Internationalism, participatory democracy, autogestion, cybernetics, specifism, anarcho-syndicalism, horizontalism, mutual aid, social justice, RRFMs

Anti: Authoritarianism, nationalism, capitalism, fascism, racism, (hetero)sexism

Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.13

Political Test

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New Laikland
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Posts: 2315
Founded: Sep 04, 2012
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Postby New Laikland » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:47 am

New Sapienta wrote:
New Laikland wrote:Twice as many died under the American flag.

Over 60 million died under the Chinese Flag

I hardly think 6 million dead coupled with all those medical and technology advancements are worth corrupting a symbol's meaning.

People then died under a war flag, and I can guarentee you lots of people see the US flag negatively, along with the Chinese flag.

The fact is the swatzika was used and is still used by Nazis. A symbol can mean more than one thing.


The point is, the swastika is a peace symbol, nothing more.

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New Sapienta
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Posts: 9298
Founded: Sep 28, 2011
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Postby New Sapienta » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:49 am

North Calaveras wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:It does, but not as much as despot.

Calling yourself something other than dictator would make you sound silly, dear Leader.



You use the title I use for my country on NS :hug: Dear/Great Leader

You are now my ally

idk i interchange the term benevolent dictatorship/despot meh whatever i feel like using.

It's okay, but in the unlikely event you do become dictator, remember the connatations. :p

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Lafayette Ronald Hubbard
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Posts: 113
Founded: Sep 22, 2011
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Postby Lafayette Ronald Hubbard » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:49 am

Scientologist Nationalism. We just put Fascism on the poll.

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New Cardelle
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Posts: 302
Founded: Nov 11, 2012
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Postby New Cardelle » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:49 am

Ex-Socialist Democrat, Ex-Socialist, Ex-Titoist, God Loving Born again Christian Conservative!
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Anarkadia
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Founded: Sep 21, 2012
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Postby Anarkadia » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:49 am

New Laikland wrote:The point is, the swastika is a peace symbol, nothing more.

Yes, the swastika is, but Hakenkreuz is not.
Anarcho-communist federation of the region Anarkadia.

¡Viva la Comunismo Anarquísta! ¡Muerte al Fascismo!

We are a horizontal federation of autonomous communities - not a nation-state. The governing body and economy are completely decentralized.
NSWiki Entry - NSEconomy - NSTracker
Pro: Internationalism, participatory democracy, autogestion, cybernetics, specifism, anarcho-syndicalism, horizontalism, mutual aid, social justice, RRFMs

Anti: Authoritarianism, nationalism, capitalism, fascism, racism, (hetero)sexism

Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.13

Political Test

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New Sapienta
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Founded: Sep 28, 2011
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Postby New Sapienta » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:50 am

New Laikland wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:People then died under a war flag, and I can guarentee you lots of people see the US flag negatively, along with the Chinese flag.

The fact is the swatzika was used and is still used by Nazis. A symbol can mean more than one thing.


The point is, the swastika is a peace symbol, nothing more.

Actually its a bad example, cause the Nazi swatzika is flipped from the Hindu swatzika.

The fact is, someone using the swatzika could mean they are Nazi or Buddhist, it doesn't neccesarily mean one thing.

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North Calaveras
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Posts: 16483
Founded: Mar 22, 2007
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:50 am

New Sapienta wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:

You use the title I use for my country on NS :hug: Dear/Great Leader

You are now my ally

idk i interchange the term benevolent dictatorship/despot meh whatever i feel like using.

It's okay, but in the unlikely event you do become dictator, remember the connatations. :p



judging how i run my country would I be bad? :(
Government: Romanist Ceasarist Dictatorship
Political Themes: Nationalism, Romanticism, Ceasarism, Militarism, Social Liberalism, Cult of Personality
Ethnic Groups: American, Latino, Filipino

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New Conway
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Posts: 254
Founded: Feb 14, 2012
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Postby New Conway » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:52 am

North Calaveras wrote:
judging how i run my country would I be bad? :(


anti- democracy= okay in my books, just as long as you aren't arresting people for the words they say, or convicting people with out due process, then you are running your country fine.

edit: 23% disappearance rating with top 5% corruption says you are not a very nice leader.
Last edited by New Conway on Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:53 am, edited 1 time in total.
Economics: +7.5, Social issues: -4.5
Pro: Capitalism, Minarchy, Guns, free will, drugs, free trade, free expression, Individual rights.
Anti: Communism, Fascism, Democracy, Warmongering, Gun Control, Socialism, affirmative action.
Communists make the best Capitalists.

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North Calaveras
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Founded: Mar 22, 2007
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:53 am

New Conway wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
judging how i run my country would I be bad? :(


anti- democracy= okay in my books, just as long as you aren't arresting people for the words they say, or convicting people with out due process, then you are running your country fine.


as long as people are loyal they have nothing to fear and in return for loyalty they are given many rights.
Government: Romanist Ceasarist Dictatorship
Political Themes: Nationalism, Romanticism, Ceasarism, Militarism, Social Liberalism, Cult of Personality
Ethnic Groups: American, Latino, Filipino

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New Sapienta
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Founded: Sep 28, 2011
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Postby New Sapienta » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:53 am

North Calaveras wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:It's okay, but in the unlikely event you do become dictator, remember the connatations. :p



judging how i run my country would I be bad? :(

Well, other than the lasseiz-fair/me not being lassez-faire I would say neither me nor you(maybe you do, but I'll assume not) have had the education or expereince to be an effective dictator.

Not that I would want to be one, for the reasons listed and for stability's sake.

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Moving Forward Inc
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Posts: 1770
Founded: Jul 10, 2012
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Postby Moving Forward Inc » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:55 am

Egoist.

I choose my political ideology based on what benefits me, not what benefits others.

This means my political ideology would change based on what person I am.

Based on who I am, I could say I am a socially liberal minarcho-capitalist.
This test is biased and has stupid questions, but anyways:
Old (from when my nation was founded):
Economic Right: 6.50
Social Libertarian:-3.67
New (11 December 2012):
Economic Right: 2.50
Social Libertarian: -5.23
Be aware that I am only so near to the centre of the economic axe because this test associates being right-wing with crony capitalism, trickle down, and letting business be held to lower standards than individuals under law.

"Democracy is the road to socialism"
- Karl Marx

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Trotskylvania
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Founded: Jul 07, 2006
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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:55 am

New Laikland wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:Perhaps because millions died under it.

A symbol can be corrupeted.

Twice as many died under the American flag.

Over 60 million died under the Chinese Flag

I hardly think 6 million dead coupled with all those medical and technology advancements are worth corrupting a symbol's meaning.

Six million Jews alone, who were taken from their homes, rounded up, and systematically exterminated for their ethnicity. Another five million Poles, Roma, homosexuals, intellectuals, and Communists faced a similar fate in the Final Solution. Thirty million Soviet soldiers and civilians, six million Poles, and millions of others died as a direct result of Nazi wars of aggression. And if they had gotten their way, eighty percent of the population between the Oder River and the Ural Mountains would have been systematically exterminated.

So yeah, you're damn right the Swastika has been indelibly stained with blood outside of a few specific cultural contexts.
Your Friendly Neighborhood Ultra - The Left Wing of the Impossible
Putting the '-sadism' in Posadism


"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga

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Arkiasis
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Posts: 3586
Founded: Aug 30, 2011
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Postby Arkiasis » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:55 am

Social Democrat right here.
The Republic of Arkiasis
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Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56
I like: You <3
I dislike: Fax machines
Move along, nothing to see here.

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North Calaveras
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Posts: 16483
Founded: Mar 22, 2007
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:56 am

New Sapienta wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:

judging how i run my country would I be bad? :(

Well, other than the lasseiz-fair/me not being lassez-faire I would say neither me nor you(maybe you do, but I'll assume not) have had the education or expereince to be an effective dictator.

Not that I would want to be one, for the reasons listed and for stability's sake.


most dictators don't get a practice run lol
Government: Romanist Ceasarist Dictatorship
Political Themes: Nationalism, Romanticism, Ceasarism, Militarism, Social Liberalism, Cult of Personality
Ethnic Groups: American, Latino, Filipino

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Psyberia
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Posts: 10
Founded: Nov 29, 2012
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Postby Psyberia » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:58 am

Social Democrat, but I follow a Keynesian approach to politics rather than a Marxist approach.
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I'm a Social Democrat.
My politicalcompass.org Results:
Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95

My politicaltest.net Results:
Cosmopolitan/Nationalistic: 12%
Secular/Fundamentalist: 79%
Visionary/Reactionary: 46%
Anarchistic/Authoritarian: 48%
Communistic/Capitalistic: 17%
Pacifist/Militaristic: 39%
Ecological/Anthropocentric: 21%

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New Conway
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Founded: Feb 14, 2012
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Postby New Conway » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:58 am

North Calaveras wrote:
as long as people are loyal they have nothing to fear and in return for loyalty they are given many rights.


well, i would tell you that the government does not give people rights, only privileges, and that rights are something we are all born with that the government can only take away. I'll leave it at that.
Economics: +7.5, Social issues: -4.5
Pro: Capitalism, Minarchy, Guns, free will, drugs, free trade, free expression, Individual rights.
Anti: Communism, Fascism, Democracy, Warmongering, Gun Control, Socialism, affirmative action.
Communists make the best Capitalists.

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Trotskylvania
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Founded: Jul 07, 2006
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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:58 am

New Conway wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:Leave dead ideologies to rest in peace, you bloody necromancer.

You can't tell me what to do!

Try as you might, you can't bring something that was killed by the dialectic of history back to life.
Your Friendly Neighborhood Ultra - The Left Wing of the Impossible
Putting the '-sadism' in Posadism


"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga

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North Calaveras
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Founded: Mar 22, 2007
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:59 am

New Conway wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
as long as people are loyal they have nothing to fear and in return for loyalty they are given many rights.


well, i would tell you that the government does not give people rights, only privileges, and that rights are something we are all born with that the government can only take away. I'll leave it at that.


well then i guess you can call them priveleges
Government: Romanist Ceasarist Dictatorship
Political Themes: Nationalism, Romanticism, Ceasarism, Militarism, Social Liberalism, Cult of Personality
Ethnic Groups: American, Latino, Filipino

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New Sapienta
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Founded: Sep 28, 2011
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Postby New Sapienta » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:59 am

North Calaveras wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:Well, other than the lasseiz-fair/me not being lassez-faire I would say neither me nor you(maybe you do, but I'll assume not) have had the education or expereince to be an effective dictator.

Not that I would want to be one, for the reasons listed and for stability's sake.


most dictators don't get a practice run lol

Indeed, but most do have political/military/economic experience.

Anyway, goodnight.

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Trotskylvania
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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:01 am

New Conway wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
as long as people are loyal they have nothing to fear and in return for loyalty they are given many rights.


well, i would tell you that the government does not give people rights, only privileges, and that rights are something we are all born with that the government can only take away. I'll leave it at that.

Noted classic liberal Jeremy Bentham called this attitude "nonsense upon stilts".

There are no natural rights, unless you believe that there is a God on high who confers a superior law upon man that all are bound to.

So you can go play in your castle of make believe all you want, the rest of us are working with the understanding that rights are simply the privileges conferred on parties by either law or contract.
Your Friendly Neighborhood Ultra - The Left Wing of the Impossible
Putting the '-sadism' in Posadism


"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga

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