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What denomination are you?

Catholic,
261
30%
Mormon,
13
1%
Anglican,
38
4%
Orthodox,
54
6%
Baptist,
112
13%
Lutheran,
51
6%
Society of Friends,
8
1%
Episcopal,
27
3%
Mystic,
21
2%
Other
294
33%
 
Total votes : 879

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Postby German American States » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:48 pm

I thought you were Lutheran.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:48 pm

German American States wrote:I thought you were Lutheran.

I am. But I am considering becoming Catholic.
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Postby Abatael » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:49 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
German American States wrote:I thought you were Lutheran.

I am. But I am considering becoming Catholic.


Well, do it! We bear the Four Marks of the Church, USSR!
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:50 pm

Abatael wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I am. But I am considering becoming Catholic.


Well, do it! We bear the Four Marks of the Church, USSR!

I will think about it. But I will of course need to learn the scripture and general beliefs of the Catholic Church.
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Postby Abatael » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:51 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Well, do it! We bear the Four Marks of the Church, USSR!

I will think about it. But I will of course need to learn the scripture and general beliefs of the Catholic Church.


Ask any question you want, and I will be more than happy to answer them.
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Postby German American States » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:52 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Well, do it! We bear the Four Marks of the Church, USSR!

I will think about it. But I will of course need to learn the scripture and general beliefs of the Catholic Church.


As a Catholic, to sum it up:
-Bread and Wine become Body and Blood of Christ
-Jesus is three people in one

This is amazingly simplified, so still look into it. But the main thing that sets us apart is the first bullet.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:53 pm

Abatael wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I will think about it. But I will of course need to learn the scripture and general beliefs of the Catholic Church.


Ask any question you want, and I will be more than happy to answer them.

Oh. Alright thanks. Here are some I could think of right off the top of my head.

What are the creeds of the Catholic Church?
How important is going to church in the Catholic Church?
What is the status of the Pope?
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Postby Abatael » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:53 pm

German American States wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I will think about it. But I will of course need to learn the scripture and general beliefs of the Catholic Church.


As a Catholic, to sum it up:
-Bread and Wine become Body and Blood of Christ
-Jesus is three people in one

This is amazingly simplified, so still look into it. But the main thing that sets us apart is the first bullet.


There's so much more though.
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Postby German American States » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:54 pm

Abatael wrote:
German American States wrote:
As a Catholic, to sum it up:
-Bread and Wine become Body and Blood of Christ
-Jesus is three people in one

This is amazingly simplified, so still look into it. But the main thing that sets us apart is the first bullet.


There's so much more though.


I know, that is why I said "amazingly simplified"
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Postby Southern Louisiane » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:54 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Well, do it! We bear the Four Marks of the Church, USSR!

I will think about it. But I will of course need to learn the scripture and general beliefs of the Catholic Church.

Don't let anybody preach to you that we worship Mary or statues, they are being ignorant.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:54 pm

German American States wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I will think about it. But I will of course need to learn the scripture and general beliefs of the Catholic Church.


As a Catholic, to sum it up:
-Bread and Wine become Body and Blood of Christ
-Jesus is three people in one

This is amazingly simplified, so still look into it. But the main thing that sets us apart is the first bullet.

Yeah. I knew those two though. In my church it only represents the body and blood. Yep. Doing it in remembrence of Christ like he asked at the Last Supper.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:55 pm

Southern Louisiane wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I will think about it. But I will of course need to learn the scripture and general beliefs of the Catholic Church.

Don't let anybody preach to you that we worship Mary or statues, they are being ignorant.

Only a non Christian would worship Mary. She was a human, whether she gave birth to Christ or not that does not make her worship worthy. And of course I knew that Catholics are Christian and do not do that.
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Postby German American States » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:56 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Ask any question you want, and I will be more than happy to answer them.

Oh. Alright thanks. Here are some I could think of right off the top of my head.

What are the creeds of the Catholic Church?
How important is going to church in the Catholic Church?
What is the status of the Pope?


To answer one of your questions, going to church isnt really imporitant to most. And incredible amount dont show up except for Christmas and Easter. But, going to church is important. If your congregation is small and you start volunteering, the pastor will usually get to know you very well.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:57 pm

German American States wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Oh. Alright thanks. Here are some I could think of right off the top of my head.

What are the creeds of the Catholic Church?
How important is going to church in the Catholic Church?
What is the status of the Pope?


To answer one of your questions, going to church isnt really imporitant to most. And incredible amount dont show up except for Christmas and Easter. But, going to church is important. If your congregation is small and you start volunteering, the pastor will usually get to know you very well.

Oh. Thanks.
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Postby Abatael » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:57 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Ask any question you want, and I will be more than happy to answer them.

Oh. Alright thanks. Here are some I could think of right off the top of my head.

What are the creeds of the Catholic Church?
How important is going to church in the Catholic Church?
What is the status of the Pope?


We have the Quicunque Vult, Symbolum Nicaenum, and Symbolum Apostolorum as the three main creeds.

You go to church every Sunday, but I suppose you could go more often or not at all, if you do private worshiping.

The Pope is seen is the Bishop of Rome, the successor of St. Peter, the chief pastor of the whole Church, and is the vicar of Christ upon Earth.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:59 pm

Abatael wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Oh. Alright thanks. Here are some I could think of right off the top of my head.

What are the creeds of the Catholic Church?
How important is going to church in the Catholic Church?
What is the status of the Pope?


We have the Quicunque Vult, Symbolum Nicaenum, and Symbolum Apostolorum as the three main creeds.

You go to church every Sunday, but I suppose you could go more often or not at all, if you do private worshiping.

The Pope is seen is the Bishop of Rome, the successor of St. Peter, the chief pastor of the whole Church, and is the vicar of Christ upon Earth.

Mkay. And also I presume that Latin is important to Catholics?

Alright.

I see. And, just out of curiosity, how did the tradition start?
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Postby Abatael » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:59 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Southern Louisiane wrote:Don't let anybody preach to you that we worship Mary or statues, they are being ignorant.

Only a non Christian would worship Mary. She was a human, whether she gave birth to Christ or not that does not make her worship worthy. And of course I knew that Catholics are Christian and do not do that.


We pray to her, because we have the intercession of saints doctrine, which allows us to. We also believe that Mary was born without original sin, and that she is the mother of God.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:00 pm

Abatael wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Only a non Christian would worship Mary. She was a human, whether she gave birth to Christ or not that does not make her worship worthy. And of course I knew that Catholics are Christian and do not do that.


We pray to her, because we have the intercession of saints doctrine, which allows us to. We also believe that Mary was born without original sin, and that she is the mother of God.

Oh. So I presume that the original sin thing is why God chose her to bear Christ?
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Postby German American States » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:00 pm

Abatael wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Oh. Alright thanks. Here are some I could think of right off the top of my head.

What are the creeds of the Catholic Church?
How important is going to church in the Catholic Church?
What is the status of the Pope?


We have the Quicunque Vult, Symbolum Nicaenum, and Symbolum Apostolorum as the three main creeds.

You go to church every Sunday, but I suppose you could go more often or not at all, if you do private worshiping.

The Pope is seen is the Bishop of Rome, the successor of St. Peter, the chief pastor of the whole Church, and is the vicar of Christ upon Earth.


Is your Mass said in Latin by any chance? Because I go to church every Sunday and I have never heard the Quicunque Vult. I think what you are going at is the Nicean Creed, the Apostolic Creed, and I have no clue what the first one was.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:01 pm

German American States wrote:
Abatael wrote:
We have the Quicunque Vult, Symbolum Nicaenum, and Symbolum Apostolorum as the three main creeds.

You go to church every Sunday, but I suppose you could go more often or not at all, if you do private worshiping.

The Pope is seen is the Bishop of Rome, the successor of St. Peter, the chief pastor of the whole Church, and is the vicar of Christ upon Earth.


Is your Mass said in Latin by any chance? Because I go to church every Sunday and I have never heard the Quicunque Vult. I think what you are going at is the Nicean Creed, the Apostolic Creed, and I have no clue what the first one was.

Athanasian Creed? That and the other two are the creeds of Lutheranism.
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Postby Abatael » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:02 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Abatael wrote:
We have the Quicunque Vult, Symbolum Nicaenum, and Symbolum Apostolorum as the three main creeds.

You go to church every Sunday, but I suppose you could go more often or not at all, if you do private worshiping.

The Pope is seen is the Bishop of Rome, the successor of St. Peter, the chief pastor of the whole Church, and is the vicar of Christ upon Earth.

Mkay. And also I presume that Latin is important to Catholics?

Alright.

I see. And, just out of curiosity, how did the tradition start?


It's not like the service is done in Latin, but Latin is used by the Holy See quite often. Here, not so much.

The tradition started when Jesus said to St. Peter (something along the lines of), "Peter, you are the rock, upon which I will build my Church." Peter was the first Pope, and then the primacy of Simon Peter (the idea that Peter was the most prominent of the Apostles) is passed on to the Pope continually. It means the Pope is higher than other bishops in the Church.
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Postby German American States » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:02 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Abatael wrote:
We have the Quicunque Vult, Symbolum Nicaenum, and Symbolum Apostolorum as the three main creeds.

You go to church every Sunday, but I suppose you could go more often or not at all, if you do private worshiping.

The Pope is seen is the Bishop of Rome, the successor of St. Peter, the chief pastor of the whole Church, and is the vicar of Christ upon Earth.

Mkay. And also I presume that Latin is important to Catholics?

Alright.

I see. And, just out of curiosity, how did the tradition start?


Latin used to be important. Every Mass was said in Latin before Vatican 2 which made some changes. One of those was that you could say Mass in your native language. And I think it became important because the late Roman Empire adopted Christianity as its religion.
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Postby Abatael » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:03 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Abatael wrote:
We pray to her, because we have the intercession of saints doctrine, which allows us to. We also believe that Mary was born without original sin, and that she is the mother of God.

Oh. So I presume that the original sin thing is why God chose her to bear Christ?


Yes, and there was also the assumption of Mary, which is that Mary was brought into Heaven by God's will before she actually died. This is good for a human.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:04 pm

Abatael wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Mkay. And also I presume that Latin is important to Catholics?

Alright.

I see. And, just out of curiosity, how did the tradition start?


It's not like the service is done in Latin, but Latin is used by the Holy See quite often. Here, not so much.

The tradition started when Jesus said to St. Peter (something along the lines of), "Peter, you are the rock, upon which I will build my Church." Peter was the first Pope, and then the primacy of Simon Peter (the idea that Peter was the most prominent of the Apostles) is passed on to the Pope continually. It means the Pope is higher than other bishops in the Church.

Okay.

Interesting.
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