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What denomination are you?

Catholic,
261
30%
Mormon,
13
1%
Anglican,
38
4%
Orthodox,
54
6%
Baptist,
112
13%
Lutheran,
51
6%
Society of Friends,
8
1%
Episcopal,
27
3%
Mystic,
21
2%
Other
294
33%
 
Total votes : 879
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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:25 pm

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Welcome to the thread.

Nice to be here, so what are we talking about?

Whether Mormons are Christians or not.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:25 pm

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Welcome to the thread.

Nice to be here, so what are we talking about?

Whether Mormonism is Christian or not.
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Postby Lancov » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:25 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Lancov wrote:I dare you to prove it.

See latest post.

For the record, I agree that Mormons should not be considered Christians, even though in general I like Mormons very much. I just took issue with you appearing to claim to know exactly what God thinks on the subject, which you have now cleared up as poor wording. So I apologize for challenging you like that.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:26 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Nice to be here, so what are we talking about?

Whether Mormons are Christians or not.

If they believe in the trinity why are they not Christians?
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:26 pm

Menassa wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Whether Mormons are Christians or not.

If they believe in the trinity why are they not Christians?

Thats what I said.
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Postby Typhlochactas » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:26 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:
Ex: The holocaust was wrong even if the Nazi's won WW2 and brainwashed everyone to believe it was right.

Define wrong.

(Damn it, I just love being contrary.)


Immoral.
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Postby The Mighty Warrior Horse » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:26 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Reggae Magmia wrote:Then provide them.
Here. Now go wild.


Seriously, what is wrong with calling a god God nowadays?

We speak English here.

I speak French in France, German in Germany, and mandarin in china.
I see no issue with calling god ja.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:27 pm

Lancov wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
See latest post.

For the record, I agree that Mormons should not be considered Christians, even though in general I like Mormons very much. I just took issue with you appearing to claim to know exactly what God thinks on the subject, which you have now cleared up as poor wording. So I apologize for challenging you like that.

I have no problems with Mormons as people. I have no problems with atheists as people. I have friends that are both. But they are not Christians.

Yes, I claim to have knowledge of God's stance on the subject because I have read His holy book and have read about Mormon beliefs, and found them contrary.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:27 pm

Menassa wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Whether Mormons are Christians or not.

If they believe in the trinity why are they not Christians?

I honestly can't say why, since I am not fully educated on Mormon beliefs.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:28 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Define wrong.

(Damn it, I just love being contrary.)


Immoral.

Who determines what is moral and what is not?
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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:29 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:
Immoral.

Who determines what is moral and what is not?

God.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:30 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Who determines what is moral and what is not?

God.

Exactly.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:30 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Menassa wrote:If they believe in the trinity why are they not Christians?

Thats what I said.

They deny the Trinity is one.
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Reggae Magmia
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Postby Reggae Magmia » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:30 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:

Seriously, what is wrong with calling a god God nowadays?

We speak English here.

Nothing. And Jah is not simply a god.
This is no longer my main nation (got bored with it).

Switching over to Ancient Magmia
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:30 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Who determines what is moral and what is not?

God.

I agree. However, Typh does not appear to believe that, and I would like to know how he determines what is right and wrong.
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Postby Typhlochactas » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:31 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:
Immoral.

Who determines what is moral and what is not?


That's question begging.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:31 pm

The Mighty Warrior Horse wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote: Here. Now go wild.


Seriously, what is wrong with calling a god God nowadays?

We speak English here.

I speak French in France, German in Germany, and mandarin in china.
I see no issue with calling god ja.

There is no problem with it. I simply will not call Him that.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs
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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:31 pm

Reggae Magmia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Seriously, what is wrong with calling a god God nowadays?

We speak English here.

Nothing. And Jah is not simply a god.

Actually one of God's names is Kuh (replace that k with a y) so in German I assume it would be Juh.
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Thats what I said.

They deny the Trinity is one.

Are Witnesses not Christians?
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This is my god and I shall exalt him
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:32 pm

Another Catholic reporting in!
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:32 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Who determines what is moral and what is not?


That's question begging.

How do you determine morality? What is right and wrong? Who are you to tell anyone they are good or bad?
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs
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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:32 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Another Catholic reporting in!

Welcome to the thread, brother.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:32 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:God.

I agree. However, Typh does not appear to believe that, and I would like to know how he determines what is right and wrong.

Okay.
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Thats what I said.

They deny the Trinity is one.

Fair enough but they still believe in the Trinity though not as one.
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Postby Typhlochactas » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:33 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:
That's question begging.

How do you determine morality? What is right and wrong? Who are you to tell anyone they are good or bad?


I thought we were still on the first question.
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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:33 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Another Catholic reporting in!

Welcome.
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The Mighty Warrior Horse
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Postby The Mighty Warrior Horse » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:33 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The Mighty Warrior Horse wrote:I speak French in France, German in Germany, and mandarin in china.
I see no issue with calling god ja.

There is no problem with it. I simply will not call Him that.

Oh, ok apologies. I thought you meant He could only be called god and nothing else.
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We have reports that Osama bin Laden was killed by a man by the name of 420SkillzSwag1337.

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You wouldn't thin the herd by reducing the producers. Duh. You reduce it by eliminating the unproductive.
So we eat the poor.
*nods*
Conserative Morality » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:58 pm
Because marijuana is a gateway drug. If you smoke it too often, it opens up portals to Satan.


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There is much we can learn from the noble bonobo, and I fling my shit at all who disagree.
I could not give a hoot about how left or right you are
Just do not make bad tasting brownies
Mallorea and Riva should be a toaster
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