Christian Discussion Thread II

[Vazdania]

Well, Christianity is part of European culture that the colonists spread. You really cannot seprate thoose two things.

You've got a point. But it wasn't solely due to European religion. The original question was, What technological or social advancements have been achieved by religion itself.

Does Martin Luther King Junior and the Civil Rights movement mean anything to you?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Well, Christianity is part of European culture that the colonists spread. You really cannot seprate thoose two things.

You've got a point. But it wasn't solely due to European religion. The original question was, What technological or social advancements have been achieved by religion itself.

Fuck okay last thing, In terms of Western Christianity there's been a sort of separate daily influence largely due to Greek and Roman influence. Originally Catholic dominated all aspects of life, trade. Science, law and Government, Much like Islam. This spit towards the enlightenment and religion was the counted separate from these things, while in Islam, it Sharia Law was law.



There is a great deal of art, associated with Christianity, Gun powder in the west, and its advancement is a direct result of Islamic Jihad. Hell Christianity is the reason certain countries exist today. Catholic persecution kept Islam out of Europe. Sharia law saved the economy of china. Religion has influenced the world we live in vastly. if not for the dark ages, we'd be colonizing the solar system right now.

[Scholencia]

Well, Christianity is part of European culture that the colonists spread. You really cannot seprate thoose two things.

You've got a point. But it wasn't solely due to European religion. The original question was, What technological or social advancements have been achieved by religion itself.

The greatest achievments of the Christian religion would be secularism and the morality.

Even in the "Dark" Ages christian theology inherit some knowledge, doctrines and philosopy from the Greeks (just to point out the Arabs hd not a significant role in that places). This essence led that within Christianity the concept of secularism is born. That later led to development of science.

[Madredia]

One of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite men.

“Now the whole offer which Christianity makes is this: that we can, if we let God have His way, come to share in the life of Christ. If we do, we shall then be sharing a life which was begotten, not made, which always existed and always will exist. Christ is the Son of God. If we share in this kind of life we also shall be sons of God. We shall love the Father as He does and the Holy Ghost will arise in us. He came to this world and became a man in order to spread to other men the kind of life He has — by what I call "good infection." Every Christian is to become a little Christ. The whole purpose of becoming a Christian is simply nothing else.”

Props to anyone who can guess the author. (You can Google it bu that just takes the fun out)

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Also Christianity is responsible for abolishing slavery in the west .

[Blasveck]

You've got a point. But it wasn't solely due to European religion. The original question was, What technological or social advancements have been achieved by religion itself.

Does Martin Luther King Junior and the Civil Rights movement mean anything to you?

Yeah, it does. All I asked was a simple question. Damn Vaz.

[Blasveck]

One of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite men.

“Now the whole offer which Christianity makes is this: that we can, if we let God have His way, come to share in the life of Christ. If we do, we shall then be sharing a life which was begotten, not made, which always existed and always will exist. Christ is the Son of God. If we share in this kind of life we also shall be sons of God. We shall love the Father as He does and the Holy Ghost will arise in us. He came to this world and became a man in order to spread to other men the kind of life He has — by what I call "good infection." Every Christian is to become a little Christ. The whole purpose of becoming a Christian is simply nothing else.”

Props to anyone who can guess the author. (You can Google it bu that just takes the fun out)

Is it a founding father? (I don't want to google it)

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Does Martin Luther King Junior and the Civil Rights movement mean anything to you?

Yeah, it does. All I asked was a simple question. Damn Vaz.

He plays for keeps.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Oh yeah Muslims invented zero.

[Scholencia]

Also Christianity is responsible for abolishing slavery in the west .

True. I really doubt that there was a culture (beside the Christian) who had a abolition movement.

[Blasveck]

Oh yeah Muslims invented zero.

So did the Aztecs. I doubt religion can be given credit, in this instance. I give credit to the intelligence of the people during that time.

[Madredia]

One of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite men.

“Now the whole offer which Christianity makes is this: that we can, if we let God have His way, come to share in the life of Christ. If we do, we shall then be sharing a life which was begotten, not made, which always existed and always will exist. Christ is the Son of God. If we share in this kind of life we also shall be sons of God. We shall love the Father as He does and the Holy Ghost will arise in us. He came to this world and became a man in order to spread to other men the kind of life He has — by what I call "good infection." Every Christian is to become a little Christ. The whole purpose of becoming a Christian is simply nothing else.”

Props to anyone who can guess the author. (You can Google it bu that just takes the fun out)

Is it a founding father? (I don't want to google it)

Wrong time period. Think 1900s. WW2 era. British.

[Blasveck]

Is it a founding father? (I don't want to google it)

Wrong time period. Think 1900s. WW2 era. British.

Churchill. If not, I'm gonna shoot myself.

[Madredia]

Wrong time period. Think 1900s. WW2 era. British.

Churchill. If not, I'm gonna shoot myself.

Ooohh haha I hope your gun isn't loaded then! This'll probably give it away. He was an atheist and famously became a Christian after logically arriving at the conclusion that God must be real. He and Tolkein were good friends at a time.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Oh yeah Muslims invented zero.

You mean the Indians. It spread to the middle east from them.

[Blasveck]

Churchill. If not, I'm gonna shoot myself.

Ooohh haha I hope your gun isn't loaded then! This'll probably give it away. He was an atheist and famously became a Christian after logically arriving at the conclusion that God must be real. He and Tolkein were good friends at a time.

What's his name? I can't remember his name!

Btw, Tolkien=Amazing

[Madredia]

Ooohh haha I hope your gun isn't loaded then! This'll probably give it away. He was an atheist and famously became a Christian after logically arriving at the conclusion that God must be real. He and Tolkein were good friends at a time.

What's his name? I can't remember his name!

Btw, Tolkien=Amazing

Haha C.S Lewis. Wrote the Narnia series.

Edit: Tolkien is actually thought by many to have been the main reason Lewis converted, however, Lewis is better known for being a Christian than Tolkien is.

[Blasveck]

What's his name? I can't remember his name!

Btw, Tolkien=Amazing

Haha C.S Lewis. Wrote the Narnia series.

And Aslan was Jesus. Shoulda known.

[Menassa]

What's his name? I can't remember his name!

Btw, Tolkien=Amazing

Haha C.S Lewis. Wrote the Narnia series.

Edit: Tolkien is actually thought by many to have been the main reason Lewis converted, however, Lewis is better known for being a Christian than Tolkien is.

And Mere Christianity.... and the 'lord liar lunatic' question... be it a flawed one.

[Madredia]

Haha C.S Lewis. Wrote the Narnia series.

And Aslan was Jesus. Shoulda known.

Exactly. The Narnia series is saturated with allegories. Lewis and Tolkien were both Christians and both wrote fantasy actually, they were very good friends. They influenced each other a lot.

[Blasveck]

And Aslan was Jesus. Shoulda known.

Exactly. The Narnia series is saturated with allegories. Lewis and Tolkien were both Christians and both wrote fantasy actually, they were very good friends. They influenced each other a lot.

Tolkien pretty much INVENTED the fantasy genre

[Madredia]

Haha C.S Lewis. Wrote the Narnia series.

Edit: Tolkien is actually thought by many to have been the main reason Lewis converted, however, Lewis is better known for being a Christian than Tolkien is.

And Mere Christianity.... and the 'lord liar lunatic' question... be it a flawed one.

Mere Christianity is probably my favorite non-fictional Christian work. I see no issue with the Lewis trilemma as you do though.

[Menassa]

And Mere Christianity.... and the 'lord liar lunatic' question... be it a flawed one.

Mere Christianity is probably my favorite non-fictional Christian work. I see no issue with the Lewis trilemma as you do though.

Those three aren't the only options... for instance with me... Jesus doesn't fit into any of those as he hasn't affected me at all.

[Avenio]

Also Christianity is responsible for abolishing slavery in the west .

They did not. Slavery became increasingly economically irrelevant as the Roman Empire stopped conquering new territories and bringing in more slaves to replace the existing population. It was never actually banned in the Empire.

Besides which, one of the defining hallmarks of the early Christian era was the development of serfdom, which is slavery in all but name.

[Madredia]

Exactly. The Narnia series is saturated with allegories. Lewis and Tolkien were both Christians and both wrote fantasy actually, they were very good friends. They influenced each other a lot.

Tolkien pretty much INVENTED the fantasy genre

Yeah he's like the father of high fantasy. The two of them actually conspired together after meeting at Oxford, to bring fantasy to a wider audience becuase they both loved fairy tales and mythology. Little known, they actually agreed to split up the realm of science fiction between themselves, with Lewis taking space travel and Tolkien taking time travel. Tolkien never got around to the time travel stories though.