Christian Discussion Thread II

[Tarsonis Survivors]

On a side note, I just wanna say, the Muslims have a way more badass origin study than the Jews.

What's an origin study?

Origin of Man. Garden of Eden for Christians and Jews. But Muslims believe, Adam and Eve were tossed from heaven, and Adam landed in Sri lanka, where he remained trapped by his foot for 1000 years atoning for his sins, until the Arch Angel Gabriel came and took him to find Eve who had landed in the middle east.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

On a side note, I just wanna say, the Muslims have a way more badass origin study than the Jews.

You could say they had an ''explosive'' start

Not far off actually.......

[Madredia]

Anyway, to make the point, I don't have a problem with Atheists. If you don't feel compelled to believe, fine go ahead, I won't judge you. I just ask the same consideration in return.

My problem stemmed from it's influence in US politics and creationism.

Well wouldn't you agree that if something influences people, then its going to influence anything they lay their hands to? I mean people bring their perceptions of life into everything they do including politics. Its no different with Christians, and its not like its institutionalized into the government.

[Madredia]

On a side note, I just wanna say, the Muslims have a way more badass origin study than the Jews.

By your sig I reason you've watched Prince of Egypt. Thats one of my favorite movies ever.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

On a side note, I just wanna say, the Muslims have a way more badass origin study than the Jews.

By your sig I reason you've watched Prince of Egypt. Thats one of my favorite movies ever.

It is indeed a good one.

[Neo Rome Republic]

My problem stemmed from it's influence in US politics and creationism.

Well wouldn't you agree that if something influences people, then its going to influence anything they lay their hands to? I mean people bring their perceptions of life into everything they do including politics. Its no different with Christians, and its not like its institutionalized into the government.

I agree however, I believe all faiths and, non-faiths should be treated equally. There is still a large minority of non-religious and, creationism being taught in public school would go against our constitutional rights. The people pushing for it are mostly literalist Christians as such, I hope that fundamentalist literal interpretation of the bible continues to decline.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Well wouldn't you agree that if something influences people, then its going to influence anything they lay their hands to? I mean people bring their perceptions of life into everything they do including politics. Its no different with Christians, and its not like its institutionalized into the government.

I agree however, I believe all faiths and, non-faiths should be treated equally. There is still a large minority of non-religious and, creationism being taught in public school would go against our constitutional rights. The people pushing for it are mostly literalist Christians as such, I hope that fundamentalist literal interpretation of the bible continues to decline.

I don't have an issue per se with creationism being taught, it's the manner in which it is taught that is important. It should be taught as a social studies. Since science doesn't concern itself with the question "did God Do it?" there's no reason to teach it in science.

[Neo Rome Republic]

I agree however, I believe all faiths and, non-faiths should be treated equally. There is still a large minority of non-religious and, creationism being taught in public school would go against our constitutional rights. The people pushing for it are mostly literalist Christians as such, I hope that fundamentalist literal interpretation of the bible continues to decline.

I don't have an issue per se with creationism being taught, it's the manner in which it is taught that is important. It should be taught as a social studies. Since science doesn't concern itself with the question "did God Do it?" there's no reason to teach it in science.

What about seperation of Church and state? Or preferring one religion over another?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I don't have an issue per se with creationism being taught, it's the manner in which it is taught that is important. It should be taught as a social studies. Since science doesn't concern itself with the question "did God Do it?" there's no reason to teach it in science.

What about seperation of Church and state? Or preferring one religion over another?

Well that's why it's in Social Studies, not science. And there's no reason they can't cover multiple faiths. I'd say the big 5.

Approaching it academically is not the same as promoting it.

[Madredia]

I don't have an issue per se with creationism being taught, it's the manner in which it is taught that is important. It should be taught as a social studies. Since science doesn't concern itself with the question "did God Do it?" there's no reason to teach it in science.

What about seperation of Church and state? Or preferring one religion over another?

I don't see how Creationism being taught as a social science is preferring one religion over another. On the topic of Separation of Church and State in general, people often seem to think that that somehow means religion or faith must be kept at home or in places of worship. It doesn't though. It just means that the state should not nationalize or institutionalize one faith or religion.

[Madredia]

What about seperation of Church and state? Or preferring one religion over another?

Well that's why it's in Social Studies, not science. And there's no reason they can't cover multiple faiths. I'd say the big 5.

Approaching it academically is not the same as promoting it.

Exactly. They teach World Religions in many schools.

[Neo Rome Republic]

What about seperation of Church and state? Or preferring one religion over another?

Well that's why it's in Social Studies, not science. And there's no reason they can't cover multiple faiths. I'd say the big 5.

Approaching it academically is not the same as promoting it.

I think they already teach certain things about religions in history. Oh what they did, when I was in middle the origin history of the 3 monotheistic religions. So I agree, as long as you don't teach god as fact, but a speculation.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

What about seperation of Church and state? Or preferring one religion over another?

I don't see how Creationism being taught as a social science is preferring one religion over another. On the topic of Separation of Church and State in general, people often seem to think that that somehow means religion or faith must be kept at home or in places of worship. It doesn't though. It just means that the state should not nationalize or institutionalize one faith or religion.

eh it's more than that but that's debate for another thread. In fact so is this.

[Neo Rome Republic]

What about seperation of Church and state? Or preferring one religion over another?

I don't see how Creationism being taught as a social science is preferring one religion over another. On the topic of Separation of Church and State in general, people often seem to think that that somehow means religion or faith must be kept at home or in places of worship. It doesn't though. It just means that the state should not nationalize or institutionalize one faith or religion.

I say, good. I hope it continues to be thought about in that way

[Madredia]

BTW everyone really must listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UQf9zZBzv4

[Madredia]

I don't see how Creationism being taught as a social science is preferring one religion over another. On the topic of Separation of Church and State in general, people often seem to think that that somehow means religion or faith must be kept at home or in places of worship. It doesn't though. It just means that the state should not nationalize or institutionalize one faith or religion.

I say, good. I hope it continues to be thought about in that way

Pardon? I don't get what you mean.

[Neo Rome Republic]

I say, good. I hope it continues to be thought about in that way

Pardon? I don't get what you mean.

That religion belongs in places of worship and as a private belief.

[Madredia]

Pardon? I don't get what you mean.

That religion belongs in places of worship and as a private belief.

There is no reason why religion cannot be expressed publicly in movies, music, or art. Or even in praying in public, or following religious or faith-based principles in public such as baptism, or speaking about your faith in public, or applying your faith in the workplace and the world. Thats not a discussion for here though I guess.

[Neo Rome Republic]

That religion belongs in places of worship and as a private belief.

There is no reason why religion cannot be expressed publicly in movies, music, or art. Or even in praying in public, or following religious or faith-based principles in public such as baptism, or speaking about your faith in public, or applying your faith in the workplace and the world. Thats not a discussion for here though I guess.

Dammit, someone needs to create a thread like that.
I've never made a thread so, I have no idea how to.

[The Holy Michigan Empire]

There is no reason why religion cannot be expressed publicly in movies, music, or art. Or even in praying in public, or following religious or faith-based principles in public such as baptism, or speaking about your faith in public, or applying your faith in the workplace and the world. Thats not a discussion for here though I guess.

Dammit, someone needs to create a thread like that.
I've never made a thread so, I have no idea how to.

If you believe hard enough, it will appear.

[Neo Rome Republic]

Dammit, someone needs to create a thread like that.
I've never made a thread so, I have no idea how to.

If you believe hard enough, it will appear.

Well that didn't work.

[The Holy Michigan Empire]

If you believe hard enough, it will appear.

Well that didn't work.

Did you sacrifice a lamb before attempting?

[Neo Rome Republic]

Well that didn't work.

Did you sacrifice a lamb before attempting?

No, I used a goat.

[The Holy Michigan Empire]

Did you sacrifice a lamb before attempting?

No, I used a goat.

Well, that explains the flood outside.

[Neo Rome Republic]

No, I used a goat.

Well, that explains the flood outside.

Of course, of course.