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What denomination are you?

Catholic,
261
30%
Mormon,
13
1%
Anglican,
38
4%
Orthodox,
54
6%
Baptist,
112
13%
Lutheran,
51
6%
Society of Friends,
8
1%
Episcopal,
27
3%
Mystic,
21
2%
Other
294
33%
 
Total votes : 879

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Reggae Magmia
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Postby Reggae Magmia » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:52 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Reggae Magmia wrote:Imo, yes.

If I denied practically all aspects of mainstream Christianity, except for Christ being the Saviour, would you say I was Christian?

Depends on whether you want to be identified as such I suppose. In some cases, maybe. Not all though.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:54 pm

Menassa wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Oh. Is he an atheist? A Jew? Or what?

I believe he's some sort of Deist type.... but he can best answer for himself.

I thought Deists were Christian...
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:54 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Menassa wrote:I believe he's some sort of Deist type.... but he can best answer for himself.

I thought Deists were Christian...

Are they?

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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:55 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Menassa wrote:I believe he's some sort of Deist type.... but he can best answer for himself.

I thought Deists were Christian...

Just because you believe in a God..... doesn't mean it's the Christian one(s).
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Typhlochactas » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:55 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Menassa wrote:I believe he's some sort of Deist type.... but he can best answer for himself.

I thought Deists were Christian...


No?

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Postby Reggae Magmia » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:55 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Menassa wrote:I believe he's some sort of Deist type.... but he can best answer for himself.

I thought Deists were Christian...

There are Christian Deists, but most Deists are not Christians.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:55 pm

Menassa wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I thought Deists were Christian...

Just because you believe in a God..... doesn't mean it's the Christian one(s).

I am confused. :?
Gay and Proudand also a brony
Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:56 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I thought Deists were Christian...

Are they?

Good Lord… :palm: No. Deism is inherently anti-Christianity. Even “Christian Deism” denies Christ's divinity.
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The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:56 pm

Reggae Magmia wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I thought Deists were Christian...

There are Christian Deists, but most Deists are not Christians.

But Christian Deists are not Christian.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:57 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Menassa wrote:Just because you believe in a God..... doesn't mean it's the Christian one(s).

I am confused. :?

Deism is a small belief in God, and by small it's very waffly..... Just because someone believes in a God does not mean it's the Christian one.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:57 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Are they?

Good Lord… :palm: No. Deism is inherently anti-Christianity. Even “Christian Deism” denies Christ's divinity.

Alright, alright, geez. It was just a simply question. I have never heard of the term "Diest" before.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:57 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Menassa wrote:Just because you believe in a God..... doesn't mean it's the Christian one(s).

I am confused. :?

…did you seriously not know people believe in gods apart from the Abrahamic one?
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby Typhlochactas » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:58 pm

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:58 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Good Lord… :palm: No. Deism is inherently anti-Christianity. Even “Christian Deism” denies Christ's divinity.

Alright, alright, geez. It was just a simply question. I have never heard of the term "Diest" before.



Don't answer if you don't feel like it, but how old are you?
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:59 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I am confused. :?

…did you seriously not know people believe in gods apart from the Abrahamic one?

Dont blame me, I know almost nothing about Deism.
Gay and Proudand also a brony
Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues

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Reggae Magmia
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Postby Reggae Magmia » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:00 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Reggae Magmia wrote:There are Christian Deists, but most Deists are not Christians.

But Christian Deists are not Christian.

That...I kinda have to agree with you on.
http://christiandeistfellowship.com/christiandeist.htm
Christian Deists do not worship Jesus as God and do not believe in the theory of atonement that claims that Jesus had to die as a sacrifice to pay the "death penalty" for humankind and save them...
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:04 am

I thank god everyday that Roman Catholics do not follow Leviticus.
I'm really tired

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Postby Kintuckistan » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:05 am

Whew. I've been waiting for another discussion thread.

Primitive Baptist reporting for duty. 8)

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Postby Typhlochactas » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:06 am

My argument for the science of morality.

Argument
P1: Moral questions are about the well-being of conscious creatures. Well-being is a human value.
P2: Well-being relates to physical states of the brain.
P3: Science can tell us what actions improve or hurt human human well-being.
P4: When faced with two or more solutions, the most moral solution is the one that maximizes the well-being of conscious creatures.
C: Science can determine human values.

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Postby Menassa » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:08 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I thank god everyday that Roman Catholics do not follow Leviticus.

So you believe to men can be wed?
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:08 am

Kintuckistan wrote:Whew. I've been waiting for another discussion thread.

Primitive Baptist reporting for duty. 8)

Whoa… there aren't many of y'all left.

Seriously, the denomination is dying out, simply because of its inherent opposition to evangelism.

Though I find your denomination's beliefs somewhat insane, they are also interesting. Care to share?

(Also, may I inquire as to whether you reside in the Appalachian Mountains?)
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby Reggae Magmia » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:09 am

Typhlochactas wrote:My argument for the science of morality.

Argument
P1: Moral questions are about the well-being of conscious creatures. Well-being is a human value.
P2: Well-being relates to physical states of the brain.
P3: Science can tell us what actions improve or hurt human human well-being.
P4: When faced with two or more solutions, the most moral solution is the one that maximizes the well-being of conscious creatures.
C: Science can determine human values.

Very interesting.

Kintuckistan wrote:Whew. I've been waiting for another discussion thread.

Primitive Baptist reporting for duty. 8)

What's a "Primitive Baptist"?
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:10 am

Menassa wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I thank god everyday that Roman Catholics do not follow Leviticus.

So you believe to men can be wed?

There are other Catholic teachings from which we draw our laws. Mostly Councils of<Insert Defunct City Here>
I'm really tired

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:11 am

Reggae Magmia wrote:What's a "Primitive Baptist"?

You know Calvinism? Take that to the absolute extreme. As in: You can never know if you have been chosen to be saved, only God knows. You should never evangelise or convert, if you has been chosen to be saved, you will be.

I read about it on a visit to a state park in southwestern Virginia… What was its name…

EDIT: Natural Tunnel! Damn, went there twice, had a momentary memory lapse.
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The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby Kintuckistan » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:16 am

Anyone who wishes to know I would gladly like to talk with them :)

Seriously. Not to debate, I find it a joy to simply talk about the faith and commune with other Christians.

I'm not from Appalachia, but my church was part of a plant from the Eastern-most country in Virginia. Our heritage is VERY Appalachian. We maintain contact with several associations from West Virginia. We sing from the Goble book in lined-out hymns from way long ago... I can post a link in a bit.
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