Will you side with the Transhumanists?

[Chinese Regions]

No, it's not. It is making use of technology to improve the Human condition. It is not about assimilating people and I have no idea what would make you say that, aside from perhaps strawmanning.

If that's the definition, then why isn't it just "humanism"?

Because humanism is already something?

The "trans" implies you are trying to move past humanity to something else.

Really? That fact never occurred to us, not one single bit!

[IshCong]

If that's the definition, then why isn't it just "humanism"?

Because humanism is already something?

The "trans" implies you are trying to move past humanity to something else.

Really? That fact never occurred to us, not one single bit!

I wouldn't say we're moving past Humanity. I'd say that we are changing the characteristics of Humanity.

[Big Jim P]

I am already beyond human.

[The Mizarian Empire]

No, no, no, you're doing this all wrong. You're in favor of trans-humanism. You aren't allowed to ever think about the possible consequences of trans-humanism or the ethical and legal implications of what you're proposing. You're only allowed to rush into this blindly like some rabid fanatic.

I'm going to assume that was sarcasm in this case (we really do need a sarcasm font). If it was, I was merely stating that everyone rushing to jump on the bandwagon for the new/hip idea should remember to think of long-term results of such a radical change.

If not, you clearly have no idea what your even talking about and i'll leave you to your mad ranting.

[Vetalia]

I don't want to be more than human, I just want to utilize these technologies to live a healthy and long life. I'm happy with who I am and what I've got, I just want the ability to enjoy it for as long as possible.

[Balkan Communities]

Below I'll copypaste a post on this subject that I wrote on another forum, detailing why exactly transhumanism is unscientific and impossible.

You will often see many transhumanists try to defend their beliefs by claiming that your opposition to transhumanism is unscientific or grounded in religion. Well, you'd be surprised to see that they live in an illusion that their views are anything but scientific.

Transhumanism, with its belief that the human mind can exist outside of a human body, finds its basis in dualism, a philosophy which posits that essence (in case of humans, "soul", "mind", "spirit" or various other terms) and matter are fundamentally separate and can coexist independently of each other. This is directly taken from Descartes, who was reluctant to abandon his faith and clung to some basics of the Christian dogma, such as the existence of a soul, which he claimed was the same as the mind. Nowadays it's quite an outdated view, especially due to various scientific facts that have been discovered since - above all, the consequences of brain damage. According to Cartesian dualism, the mind is transcendental, non-material and eternal, but damage to the brain (a damage to matter) can cause various effects on a person's mind, such as ill effects to their mental well-being or a sudden change in personality, which completely debunks that theory.

The opposite of dualism is monism, which presumes that essence and matter are one and the only substance and ties the mind to biology; the priniciples of contemporary science tend towards monism. This is the reason why most of the mainstream scientific community looks down on transhumanism and transhumanists, some even going as far to call it a "cult" and a "Rapture for nerds". This isn't far from the truth, as transhumanism is an anachronistic philosophy basing itself on a purely metaphysical principle and burdened by religious legacy, and nothing but a futile attempt to avoid accepting the meaninglessness, absurdity and shortness of life.

It is impossible. Face it.

[Uiiop]

Below I'll copypaste a post on this subject that I wrote on another forum, detailing why exactly transhumanism is unscientific and impossible.

You will often see many transhumanists try to defend their beliefs by claiming that your opposition to transhumanism is unscientific or grounded in religion. Well, you'd be surprised to see that they live in an illusion that their views are anything but scientific.

Transhumanism, with its belief that the human mind can exist outside of a human body, finds its basis in dualism, a philosophy which posits that essence (in case of humans, "soul", "mind", "spirit" or various other terms) and matter are fundamentally separate and can coexist independently of each other. This is directly taken from Descartes, who was reluctant to abandon his faith and clung to some basics of the Christian dogma, such as the existence of a soul, which he claimed was the same as the mind. Nowadays it's quite an outdated view, especially due to various scientific facts that have been discovered since - above all, the consequences of brain damage. According to Cartesian dualism, the mind is transcendental, non-material and eternal, but damage to the brain (a damage to matter) can cause various effects on a person's mind, such as ill effects to their mental well-being or a sudden change in personality, which completely debunks that theory.

The opposite of dualism is monism, which presumes that essence and matter are one and the only substance and ties the mind to biology; the priniciples of contemporary science tend towards monism. This is the reason why most of the mainstream scientific community looks down on transhumanism and transhumanists, some even going as far to call it a "cult" and a "Rapture for nerds". This isn't far from the truth, as transhumanism is an anachronistic philosophy basing itself on a purely metaphysical principle and burdened by religious legacy, and nothing but a futile attempt to avoid accepting the meaninglessness, absurdity and shortness of life.

It is impossible. Face it.

Biological transhumaism checkmate also what if i just want a strong Robot arm and heart? no mind leaving the body in any of them.

[Balkan Communities]

Below I'll copypaste a post on this subject that I wrote on another forum, detailing why exactly transhumanism is unscientific and impossible.

Biological transhumaism checkmate also what if i just want a strong Robot arm and heart? no mind leaving the body in any of them.

There is nothing fundamentally wrong with that. Still, the belief that immortality and the elimination of biological hindrances can be achieved through technology (or anything else, really) that lots of transhumanists hold is foolish.

[The Territory of the Moon King]

I have evolved past your silly human limitations. For I am Shiba, God of Death.

[Renegade Babylonian Kings]

Biological transhumaism checkmate also what if i just want a strong Robot arm and heart? no mind leaving the body in any of them.

There is nothing fundamentally wrong with that. Still, the belief that immortality and the elimination of biological hindrances can be achieved through technology (or anything else, really) that lots of transhumanists hold is foolish.

The emanations through my tinfoil hat indicate to me that you are in fact descended from a line of evil plotting alchemical immortals and you're only telling us these things to stop us from looking and thus threatening your lineages monopoly on ageless power.

See, its perfectly reasonable.