Should the British monarchy be abolished?

[Pesda]

Well if being Welsh sounds to you like being an elephant, then I don't care.

Ok sheep then

And if I want to call myself a sheep, that's nothing to do with you.

[The Godly Nations]

As I have said, if you want to call yourself an elephant, and two million other people think they are elephants, then you have the right to think you're an elephant, the rest of us will just think you are insane.

Well if being Welsh sounds to you like being an elephant, then I don't care.

Mass Delusion does not make a thing more true- you are British, you live in the Welsh bits, ergo, you are a Briton who happens to live in the Welsh bits- Welsh. Doesn't change the fact that you still are a Briton.

[New Sapienta]

Ok sheep then

And if I want to call myself a sheep, that's nothing to do with you.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definitio ... ationality

It appears you are both right.

[Nova Imperius]

Ok sheep then

And if I want to call myself a sheep, that's nothing to do with you.

That doesnt concern me, its your .... passionate relationships with sheep that do

[The Godly Nations]

Ok sheep then

And if I want to call myself a sheep, that's nothing to do with you.

It doesn't make you any more sheep. Just as calling yourself Welsh doesn't make you any less a Briton.

[Nova Imperius]

Well if being Welsh sounds to you like being an elephant, then I don't care.

Mass Delusion does not make a thing more true- you are British, you live in the Welsh bits, ergo, you are a Briton who happens to live in the Welsh bits- Welsh. Doesn't change the fact that you still are a Briton.

Its regional nationalism at work. Its the smart people who arent smart enough trying to destroy a fragile system as to gain. Like someone burning the mona lisa so they can be commisioned to remake it

[The UK in Exile]

so whoever would do that overturning is the owner of the house. simples.

Parliament in such a case most likely, seeing as it would be controversial enough to require their intervention.

But by your logic there (perhaps not your logic, but poor wording) courts own a lot of property... they overturn a lot of wills too.
A court overturning a will does not mean the court owns the house.

I didn't realize you were talking about a legal process. because in reality it would be the Chancellor going. "no, thats not going to happen."

so yeah, ignored would have been a better way to put it.

[Machtergreifung]

Have you ever been to Manchester or London? I've been to London, and beyond the accent, I would have been hard pressed to tell the difference between some parts of London and some parts of Glasgow. If you see the generaly crappy state of things in places like Peckham, you'd see that it has the same problems as any rough estate in any British city. Not something to be proud off.

And what exactly makes you proud of London?

Its buildings, history, food, respect, iconic look, its sheer granduer. I have been to almost every main british city apart from leeds, Nottingham, and Bristol

So, nothing that actually benefits the rest of London? And would you have forgone going to London if the Queen's main home wasn't there?

Have you ever been to Manchester or London? I've been to London, and beyond the accent, I would have been hard pressed to tell the difference between some parts of London and some parts of Glasgow. If you see the generaly crappy state of things in places like Peckham, you'd see that it has the same problems as any rough estate in any British city. Not something to be proud off.

And what exactly makes you proud of London?

Well, the same reason why Samuel Johnson loved it some three centuries ago, 'for there is in London all that life can afford.'

Above question to you as well.

No, its her's because she's queen.

Ok you seem fairly pro-british aswell. Can u help me shut up this mental SNP

You're uninformed arguements aren't working! Call for help!

[Ostroeuropa]

Parliament in such a case most likely, seeing as it would be controversial enough to require their intervention.

But by your logic there (perhaps not your logic, but poor wording) courts own a lot of property... they overturn a lot of wills too.
A court overturning a will does not mean the court owns the house.

I didn't realize you were talking about a legal process. because in reality it would be the Chancellor going. "no, thats not going to happen."

so yeah, ignored would have been a better way to put it.

You are right that she could not leave the house directly to anyone in the will, because it's possessed by the entity of the crown. I think, possibly it's possessed by some other entity.

[Machtergreifung]

Well if being Welsh sounds to you like being an elephant, then I don't care.

Mass Delusion does not make a thing more true- you are British, you live in the Welsh bits, ergo, you are a Briton who happens to live in the Welsh bits- Welsh. Doesn't change the fact that you still are a Briton.

I can call everyone in Africa a African. Doesn't mean that they all share the same cultural identity.

[Pesda]

Well if being Welsh sounds to you like being an elephant, then I don't care.

Mass Delusion does not make a thing more true- you are British, you live in the Welsh bits, ergo, you are a Briton who happens to live in the Welsh bits- Welsh. Doesn't change the fact that you still are a Briton.

If you want to call it mass delusion, that's okay. I don't care.

[The Godly Nations]

Its buildings, history, food, respect, iconic look, its sheer granduer. I have been to almost every main british city apart from leeds, Nottingham, and Bristol

So, nothing that actually benefits the rest of London? And would you have forgone going to London if the Queen's main home wasn't there?

Well, the same reason why Samuel Johnson loved it some three centuries ago, 'for there is in London all that life can afford.'

Above question to you as well.

Ok you seem fairly pro-british aswell. Can u help me shut up this mental SNP

You're uninformed arguements aren't working! Call for help!

I already answered it.

[Ostroeuropa]

Having remembered someone is banned and that explains why they didn't post it themselves, i'll add their telegram.
If the monarch "proclaimed a new heir" it wouldn't make any difference to who would actually succeed to the crown. It is long settled that Parliament, not the reigning monarch, controls succession. This has been recognised in law since at least the early 1700s. There is no debate about this.
As such the Queen also has no power to leave any of the state-owned palaces/castles/estates/whatever (including Buckingham, Windsor, Kensington, etc.) to anyone in her will.
Please correct your statement.

I did reply to this saying I was aware that it is parliament that controls the succession, and that my use of the words "We'd go along with it" implies that parliament would follow the wishes of the monarch.
Parliament typically does not debate the succession, they follow primogeniture. If the monarch were to proclaim a new heir, they would likely debate it, and In my view, probably settle on the new choice.

[Nova Imperius]

Its buildings, history, food, respect, iconic look, its sheer granduer. I have been to almost every main british city apart from leeds, Nottingham, and Bristol

So, nothing that actually benefits the rest of London? And would you have forgone going to London if the Queen's main home wasn't there?

Well, the same reason why Samuel Johnson loved it some three centuries ago, 'for there is in London all that life can afford.'

Above question to you as well.

Ok you seem fairly pro-british aswell. Can u help me shut up this mental SNP

You're uninformed arguements aren't working! Call for help!

Of course London benifits Londoners, aswell as the rest of the country. It generates SO much money compared to how much it takes in

[Pesda]

And if I want to call myself a sheep, that's nothing to do with you.

It doesn't make you any more sheep. Just as calling yourself Welsh doesn't make you any less a Briton.

I never said it does. However 2 million people not calling themselves British is proof of a Welsh nation.

[The Godly Nations]

Mass Delusion does not make a thing more true- you are British, you live in the Welsh bits, ergo, you are a Briton who happens to live in the Welsh bits- Welsh. Doesn't change the fact that you still are a Briton.

If you want to call it mass delusion, that's okay. I don't care.

I don't call it mass delusion, it is mass delusion.

[Nova Imperius]

Mass Delusion does not make a thing more true- you are British, you live in the Welsh bits, ergo, you are a Briton who happens to live in the Welsh bits- Welsh. Doesn't change the fact that you still are a Briton.

I can call everyone in Africa a African. Doesn't mean that they all share the same cultural identity.

You can call every Nigerian an African, however you cannot call every African a Nigerian

[The Godly Nations]

It doesn't make you any more sheep. Just as calling yourself Welsh doesn't make you any less a Briton.

I never said it does. However 2 million people not calling themselves British is proof of a Welsh nation.

No, it is proof that there are two million people who call themselves Welsh. There are several million people who claimed to be Jedis, they are not anymore Jedis than I am.

[Renegade Babylonian Kings]

Having remembered someone is banned and that explains why they didn't post it themselves, i'll add their telegram.
If the monarch "proclaimed a new heir" it wouldn't make any difference to who would actually succeed to the crown. It is long settled that Parliament, not the reigning monarch, controls succession. This has been recognised in law since at least the early 1700s. There is no debate about this.
As such the Queen also has no power to leave any of the state-owned palaces/castles/estates/whatever (including Buckingham, Windsor, Kensington, etc.) to anyone in her will.
Please correct your statement.

Hmm...so, the situation as it is would be opposite that preferred by Charles II after The Restoration?

Now I feel like reading a bunch of English history. Or watching Monty Python. Or both.

[Machtergreifung]

So, nothing that actually benefits the rest of London? And would you have forgone going to London if the Queen's main home wasn't there?


Above question to you as well.



You're uninformed arguements aren't working! Call for help!

Of course London benifits Londoners, aswell as the rest of the country. It generates SO much money compared to how much it takes in

And where does all of that generated money go? Taxes, not those rich bankers.

Right?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2007/ju ... .business1

[Machtergreifung]

I can call everyone in Africa a African. Doesn't mean that they all share the same cultural identity.

You can call every Nigerian an African, however you cannot call every African a Nigerian

Still doesn't mean a Nigerian shares any common cultural background with any other African...

[The Godly Nations]

Of course London benifits Londoners, aswell as the rest of the country. It generates SO much money compared to how much it takes in

And where does all of that generated money go? Taxes, not those rich bankers.

Right?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2007/ju ... .business1

It may surprise you, but some of it goes into Scotland, and it is also the reason why Scotland probably won't survive. So, thank you London, and thank you England, for continuing to fund Scotland.

[Renegade Babylonian Kings]

And if I want to call myself a sheep, that's nothing to do with you.

It doesn't make you any more sheep. Just as calling yourself Welsh doesn't make you any less a Briton.

So, I'm to understand then, that I cannot be a Redguard?

Because its really all I had going for me.

On topic, when did it start that the King had to go Parliament for money? It seems like that was the beginning of the end, even if the end takes a thousand years.

[Machtergreifung]

And where does all of that generated money go? Taxes, not those rich bankers.

Right?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2007/ju ... .business1

It may surprise you, but some of it goes into Scotland, and it is also the reason why Scotland probably won't survive. So, thank you London, and thank you England, for continuing to fund Scotland.

Someone posted the figures before me in the thread, but Scotland gives more than it takes. So, you're welcome, UK, for that extra revenue we generate for you.

[The Godly Nations]

You can call every Nigerian an African, however you cannot call every African a Nigerian

Still doesn't mean a Nigerian shares any common cultural background with any other African...

Or, a better example, a tribe of folks in Nigeria exclusively call themselves by the name of said tribe- doesn't make them any less Nigerians.