Should the British monarchy be abolished?

[The Godly Nations]

Its part of a government . Passports are british. No matter what you say you ARE a british citizen, not a Welsh citizen.

Legally, yes, I am a British citizen. However, I belong to the Welsh nation.

There, was that so hard- you are a British Citizen, ergo, you are a Briton. You just happen to live in the Welsh bits o' it.

[Pesda]

The point is that she doesn't own Buckingham Palace, where I presume you meant by "her house."

She does. It's her bloody house- she owns it in the function of being the Queen.

She doens't own it any more that David Cameron owns number 10, or mr Obama owning the White House.

[Machtergreifung]

Just because it's centuries old doesn't make it good. The Neanderthals are even older, but they aren't all that great.

What exactly does London being a major financial center have to do with the rest of Britain and the monarchy, besides the fact that the Queen has one of many houses there? You could argue that Tokyo, New York, Beijing are as equally if not more important.

As for military size, that means little. Brazil has something like 350,000 odd troops, yet they are hardly a major military power.

except London is the largest financial Market thats operational hours overlap with Asia and America.

Along with Paris, Berlin and Zurich...

[The Godly Nations]

She does. It's her bloody house- she owns it in the function of being the Queen.

She doens't own it any more that David Cameron owns number 10, or mr Obama owning the White House.

Guess what- being part of the Royal Family is a permanent position, Prime Minister and Presidencies are not.

[Nova Imperius]

Our nation haas lasted centuries on that system, and now we sit near the top of countries in the world. London is regarded as the world capital, we control huge sections of the financial market, we are one of only 7 nuclear nations, we still are way above average on military size with 450,000 troops.

Just because it's centuries old doesn't make it good. The Neanderthals are even older, but they aren't all that great.

What exactly does London being a major financial center have to do with the rest of Britain and the monarchy, besides the fact that the Queen has one of many houses there? You could argue that Tokyo, New York, Beijing are as equally if not more important.

As for military size, that means little. Brazil has something like 350,000 odd troops, yet they are hardly a major military power.

We have.... better troops and better gadgets. Anyway we are one of the most democratic nations in the world.

And im going to say something from the heart. A reason i dont want to live in an independant scotland is it is a fucking shit hole of a place. Look around at the junkies, council schemes, crappy councils, vandalism, horrible 1970 flats. At least in the UK we have London which we also shaped and built. Also you would be interested to know 90% of all scots have an english relative going no further than 4 generations back. We share the same genepool

[Onekawa-Nukanor]

It seems to work, why bother fixing something that ain't broken, y'know?

does it? please name a time when the queen safeguarded the british political system against, well... anyone.

Do I have to get into a deep debate on this issue? I was hoping tomake a few points and leave *sigh*.

And I'm a New Zealander, my knowledge on British political history is a little fuzzy. Now, if you ask me about Alexander the Great on the other hand.....

And, I believe the answer is no, but its always nice to have some insurance, in case it might happen, especially since the monarchy seems to turn a profit. Otherwise, why would people bother with something like Home and Contents insurance, because whatst he chance of them in particular being robbed?

[Pesda]

Genes are not commodities that are brought and sold.

You also don't own any commodities that your parents have given you either.

Oh, I do, it's just that I shouldn't. I think that inheritence is wrong.

[Nova Imperius]

except London is the largest financial Market thats operational hours overlap with Asia and America.

Along with Paris, Berlin and Zurich...

You see the thing is LOndon has actually, along with New york, been recognised as the greatest city in the world. Just look at it compared to shitey berlin, beijing

[The Godly Nations]

except London is the largest financial Market thats operational hours overlap with Asia and America.

Along with Paris, Berlin and Zurich...

Which is why France, Germany, and Switzerland are also top Economic Powers, the point being?

[Pesda]

Legally, yes, I am a British citizen. However, I belong to the Welsh nation.

There, was that so hard- you are a British Citizen, ergo, you are a Briton. You just happen to live in the Welsh bits o' it.

A British citizen, belonging to the Welsh nation. And that's not to say that I don't belong to the British nation too, just respect that I identify as Welsh.

[Pesda]

She doens't own it any more that David Cameron owns number 10, or mr Obama owning the White House.

Guess what- being part of the Royal Family is a permanent position, Prime Minister and Presidencies are not.

If they were Prime minister for life, it wouldn't make it their house.
"Occupied Royal Palaces, such as Buckingham Palace, are not the private property of The Queen"
http://www.royal.gov.uk/FrequentlyAsked ... tions.aspx

[The Godly Nations]

There, was that so hard- you are a British Citizen, ergo, you are a Briton. You just happen to live in the Welsh bits o' it.

A British citizen, belonging to the Welsh nation. And that's not to say that I don't belong to the British nation too, just respect that I identify as Welsh.

You identify as such, you can also pretend you are a girl on sundays, and you are a superhero every fourteenth of July, it doesn't make any of it any more true.

[Machtergreifung]

Just because it's centuries old doesn't make it good. The Neanderthals are even older, but they aren't all that great.

What exactly does London being a major financial center have to do with the rest of Britain and the monarchy, besides the fact that the Queen has one of many houses there? You could argue that Tokyo, New York, Beijing are as equally if not more important.

As for military size, that means little. Brazil has something like 350,000 odd troops, yet they are hardly a major military power.

We have.... better troops and better gadgets. Anyway we are one of the most democratic nations in the world.

And im going to say something from the heart. A reason i dont want to live in an independant scotland is it is a fucking shit hole of a place. Look around at the junkies, council schemes, crappy councils, vandalism, horrible 1970 flats. At least in the UK we have London which we also shaped and built. Also you would be interested to know 90% of all scots have an english relative going no further than 4 generations back. We share the same genepool

Suprising that the majority of British equipment is ethier American, or developed with American help. As for being democratic, Scotland didn't vote for the Tory Party, yet they're still governing us. Democratic?

And I'm going to say something from the heart as well; London=/=Rest of the UK. As for the issues with Scotland, does the rest of the UK not have these problems? Is Manchester a haven for the rich and famous?

Along with Paris, Berlin and Zurich...

You see the thing is LOndon has actually, along with New york, been recognised as the greatest city in the world. Just look at it compared to shitey berlin, beijing

Yes, you clearly present a excellent arguement for the poor quality of other major cities in the world...

[The Godly Nations]

Guess what- being part of the Royal Family is a permanent position, Prime Minister and Presidencies are not.

If they were Prime minister for life, it wouldn't make it their house.
"Occupied Royal Palaces, such as Buckingham Palace, are not the private property of The Queen"
http://www.royal.gov.uk/FrequentlyAsked ... tions.aspx

She owns the place in her capacity as Queen, and not a private citizen. That doesn't make it less hers.

[Machtergreifung]

Along with Paris, Berlin and Zurich...

Which is why France, Germany, and Switzerland are also top Economic Powers, the point being?

That there is nothing overly unique in London's position as a financial center. Nor will it remain one of the bigger center's, if South Africa and Brazil get their act together and train some hedge fund managers.

[Pesda]

A British citizen, belonging to the Welsh nation. And that's not to say that I don't belong to the British nation too, just respect that I identify as Welsh.

You identify as such, you can also pretend you are a girl on sundays, and you are a superhero every fourteenth of July, it doesn't make any of it any more true.

Yes it does. Who I say I am makes me who I am. It's not decided by an external body.

[The Godly Nations]

You identify as such, you can also pretend you are a girl on sundays, and you are a superhero every fourteenth of July, it doesn't make any of it any more true.

Yes it does. Who I say I am makes me who I am. It's not decided by an external body.

It is, your nationality and your citizenship is decided by the country that you reside.

It is none of my business if you like to wear girl's clothing and call yourself Peggy, if you are a man, you still are a man.

[Pesda]

If they were Prime minister for life, it wouldn't make it their house.
"Occupied Royal Palaces, such as Buckingham Palace, are not the private property of The Queen"
http://www.royal.gov.uk/FrequentlyAsked ... tions.aspx

She owns the place in her capacity as Queen, and not a private citizen. That doesn't make it less hers.

Okay, so if she wasn't Queen it wouldn't be her residence. She's there cause she's Queen, not cause it's hers.

[Nova Imperius]

We have.... better troops and better gadgets. Anyway we are one of the most democratic nations in the world.

And im going to say something from the heart. A reason i dont want to live in an independant scotland is it is a fucking shit hole of a place. Look around at the junkies, council schemes, crappy councils, vandalism, horrible 1970 flats. At least in the UK we have London which we also shaped and built. Also you would be interested to know 90% of all scots have an english relative going no further than 4 generations back. We share the same genepool

Suprising that the majority of British equipment is ethier American, or developed with American help. As for being democratic, Scotland didn't vote for the Tory Party, yet they're still governing us. Democratic?

And I'm going to say something from the heart as well; London=/=Rest of the UK. As for the issues with Scotland, does the rest of the UK not have these problems? Is Manchester a haven for the rich and famous?

You see the thing is LOndon has actually, along with New york, been recognised as the greatest city in the world. Just look at it compared to shitey berlin, beijing

Yes, you clearly present a excellent arguement for the poor quality of other major cities in the world...

All the parties are the same, they only hide under different colours. Besides democracy on the full scale is impossible. You may have voted lib dem but are being governed by labour, undemocratic. The rest of the UK is good enough but we take pride in our capital

[Pesda]

Yes it does. Who I say I am makes me who I am. It's not decided by an external body.

It is, your nationality and your citizenship is decided by the country that you reside.

No. I have a right to my nationality.

[The Godly Nations]

It is, your nationality and your citizenship is decided by the country that you reside.

No. I have a right to my nationality.

You have the right to self-delusion, it doesn't mean we should accept it as well.

[Nova Imperius]

Which is why France, Germany, and Switzerland are also top Economic Powers, the point being?

That there is nothing overly unique in London's position as a financial center. Nor will it remain one of the bigger center's, if South Africa and Brazil get their act together and train some hedge fund managers.

Cut the crap and take pride in your country. It is people like you who are the reason we have gne downhill. Anyway when, inevitably, we say no to independence in 2014 will you be content and accepting, or be a moaning git and keep on ranting about how Paw Broon should be scotlands High Chancellor

[The Godly Nations]

She owns the place in her capacity as Queen, and not a private citizen. That doesn't make it less hers.

Okay, so if she wasn't Queen it wouldn't be her residence. She's there cause she's Queen, not cause it's hers.

No, its her's because she's queen.

[New Sapienta]

While I despise monarchy and any idea of "royalty" or the sense of entitlement given to the children of monarchs(much how I despise the children of the rich, but not neccesarily the rich themselves) the royal family should only be abolished if the majority of the British support doing so, which to my knowledge don't.

[The UK in Exile]

except London is the largest financial Market thats operational hours overlap with Asia and America.

Along with Paris, Berlin and Zurich...

those are some excellent examples of stock markets that are smaller than the the UKs. a lot smaller.