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Should the British monarchy be abolished?

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St James
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Founded: Jul 15, 2012
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Postby St James » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:12 am

Cvtopia wrote:The point is, these people should not be given so much privilege just because they're the great great great ... ... ... great great great grandchildren of some guy who killed a bunch of Saxons a thousand years ago. Power must be earned; it is not a birthright.


"Power"? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?! The Royal family doesn't have any power!
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Narvagorsk
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Postby Narvagorsk » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:13 am

Definitely not. It's history, it's part of our culture :)
The monarchy should never be abolished.

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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:14 am

St James wrote:
Cvtopia wrote:The point is, these people should not be given so much privilege just because they're the great great great ... ... ... great great great grandchildren of some guy who killed a bunch of Saxons a thousand years ago. Power must be earned; it is not a birthright.


"Power"? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?! The Royal family doesn't have any power!


They mastermind the New World Order behind everyones backs, plotting to regain the Empire uder an absolute monarchy. *nods*
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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:15 am

Valkalan wrote:
Feresundy wrote:Who said a Monarchy had untouchables? That's the Moguls. You wouldn't believe how democratically similar the UK and the US are.



By "No royalty. No untouchables" I meant that I broadly disagree with the idea that one's worth is defined by birthright. And yes, I am aware that the differences between the US and UK are mainly cosmetic. I do however doubt in the integrity of their "democratic" machinations.


What do you doubt about the UK's democracy?

Well, there's the House of Lords, but that's not entirely dependent on the monarchy.
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Postby Giovenith » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:15 am

Well they're not exactly necessary anymore, but I would miss gawking at them. The President's family just isn't sparkly enough.
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Postby Woolfordia » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:19 am

It is apart of the Agreement in the House of Commons & House of Lords that if any laws are to be changed, abolished or new ones made they must be verified by Buckingham Palace.

Politicians could do anything they like without Verification, It should not be Abolished.

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Postby Valkalan » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:21 am

Priory Academy USSR wrote:
Valkalan wrote:

By "No royalty. No untouchables" I meant that I broadly disagree with the idea that one's worth is defined by birthright. And yes, I am aware that the differences between the US and UK are mainly cosmetic. I do however doubt in the integrity of their "democratic" machinations.


What do you doubt about the UK's democracy?

Well, there's the House of Lords, but that's not entirely dependent on the monarchy.


I am usually distrustful of the integrity of any nation's political system. ;)
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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:25 am

Valkalan wrote:
Priory Academy USSR wrote:
What do you doubt about the UK's democracy?

Well, there's the House of Lords, but that's not entirely dependent on the monarchy.


I am usually distrustful of the integrity of any nation's political system. ;)


Well, a healthy dose of scepticism never hurt anyone. :p
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Postby The UK in Exile » Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:11 am

Krownsinburg wrote:If they want it abolished, they'll march on Buckingham Palace, until then, the term 'King of England' still makes sense.


except we have a queen and she's Queen of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth Realms. so not really.

It is apart of the Agreement in the House of Commons & House of Lords that if any laws are to be changed, abolished or new ones made they must be verified by Buckingham Palace.

Politicians could do anything they like without Verification, It should not be Abolished.


No it isn't.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:14 am

St James wrote:
Cvtopia wrote:The point is, these people should not be given so much privilege just because they're the great great great ... ... ... great great great grandchildren of some guy who killed a bunch of Saxons a thousand years ago. Power must be earned; it is not a birthright.


"Power"? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?! The Royal family doesn't have any power!


I dunno. How else would they light all the rooms in the Palace?
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Postby Madda » Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:29 am

Never. Monarchy for life! Modern European monarchs hold little political power, so it's not a matter of the monarch not deserving their position, but the monarch is what symbolizes the nation, what holds us together, and what gives us a sense of national unity. God save the queen!
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Postby Shard_Head » Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:33 am

St James wrote:
Cvtopia wrote:The point is, these people should not be given so much privilege just because they're the great great great ... ... ... great great great grandchildren of some guy who killed a bunch of Saxons a thousand years ago. Power must be earned; it is not a birthright.


"Power"? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?! The Royal family doesn't have any power!


Of course they do. There's tens of thousands of die hard monarchists who would happily follow along with whatever the Queen says.

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Postby Tmutarakhan » Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:46 am

Shard_Head wrote:
St James wrote:
"Power"? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?! The Royal family doesn't have any power!


Of course they do. There's tens of thousands of die hard monarchists who would happily follow along with whatever the Queen says.

I rather doubt that there are "tens of thousands" but even if there were, in a country of tens of millions that doesn't mean much.
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Postby Forster Keys » Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:50 am

Tmutarakhan wrote:
Shard_Head wrote:
Of course they do. There's tens of thousands of die hard monarchists who would happily follow along with whatever the Queen says.

I rather doubt that there are "tens of thousands" but even if there were, in a country of tens of millions that doesn't mean much.


Militant English monarchists would be something to behold.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:35 am

Forster Keys wrote:
Tmutarakhan wrote:I rather doubt that there are "tens of thousands" but even if there were, in a country of tens of millions that doesn't mean much.


Militant English monarchists would be something to behold.


We 'Militant British Monarchist' prefer to be called Cavaliers.

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Postby Shard_Head » Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:44 am

Tmutarakhan wrote:
Shard_Head wrote:
Of course they do. There's tens of thousands of die hard monarchists who would happily follow along with whatever the Queen says.

I rather doubt that there are "tens of thousands" but even if there were, in a country of tens of millions that doesn't mean much.


Tens of thousands rioting were the Queen to promote it is not something to be scoffed at.

You may not think there are tens of thousands of die hard monarchists but I can assure you that the number could be made up of twattish NI loyalists alone.

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Postby Camelza » Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:58 am

The Godly Nations wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
Militant English monarchists would be something to behold.


We 'Militant British Monarchist' prefer to be called Cavaliers.

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Postby Pesda » Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:49 pm

Woolfordia wrote:It is apart of the Agreement in the House of Commons & House of Lords that if any laws are to be changed, abolished or new ones made they must be verified by Buckingham Palace.

Politicians could do anything they like without Verification, It should not be Abolished.


Elected MPs making laws?
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:24 pm

Woolfordia wrote:It is apart of the Agreement in the House of Commons & House of Lords that if any laws are to be changed, abolished or new ones made they must be verified by Buckingham Palace.

Politicians could do anything they like without Verification, It should not be Abolished.


Nope.

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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:28 pm

The Godly Nations wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
Militant English monarchists would be something to behold.


We 'Militant British Monarchist' prefer to be called Cavaliers.


Ah, but the Cavaliers were English.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:54 pm

Priory Academy USSR wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:
We 'Militant British Monarchist' prefer to be called Cavaliers.


Ah, but the Cavaliers were English.


never let facts get in the way of monarchist pageantry.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:42 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
St James wrote:
"Power"? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?! The Royal family doesn't have any power!


I dunno. How else would they light all the rooms in the Palace?

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Postby The Godly Nations » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:43 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Priory Academy USSR wrote:
Ah, but the Cavaliers were English.


never let facts get in the way of monarchist pageantry.


The rest of the nation loves pageantries as well, monarchist or otherwise.

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Postby Frans » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:50 pm

Yes, they should, I'm not necessarily saying Republic and/or more Democracy, but yes abolish the monarchy. It cost a lot of money, I don't understand how they can justify them inheriting power, etc.

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Postby The Godly Nations » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:54 pm

Frans wrote:Yes, they should, I'm not necessarily saying Republic and/or more Democracy, but yes abolish the monarchy. It cost a lot of money, I don't understand how they can justify them inheriting power, etc.


No, it doesn't cost us lots of money to keep our Monarchy, our traditions, etc. It does cost us lots of money when our elected leaders decided that we, Britons, don't have a need for a backbone and start buying into America's war.

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