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Postby Galloism » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:25 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Oh yes, now we go into Cult of the Gun territory, specifically the part that says "This person disagrees with my personal views, therefore they're a Tyrant and I am legally entitled to shoot them per the 2nd Amendment"...or at least that's the justification behind it in the Cult of the Gun.


It is because of a few issues that I care too dearly about such as gun control, that I will never vote Democrat- no matter how many other redeeming qualities the rest of their platform may have.

The NRA has a list of politicians they endorse as protecting gun rights. It includes quite a few democrats.
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Postby Abatael » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:27 pm

Galloism wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
It is because of a few issues that I care too dearly about such as gun control, that I will never vote Democrat- no matter how many other redeeming qualities the rest of their platform may have.

The NRA has a list of politicians they endorse as protecting gun rights. It includes quite a few democrats.


But their platform is still for gun control.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:29 pm

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Knigings would go up for one.

I forget where I read this but someone said that if gangs could no longer get guns then the first drive-by spear-chucking would occur within hours.

I was thinking personally how much more it will cost me to put healthy food on the table.

Seconded.

If you outlaw guns only outlaws will have nutritious and cheap food in large portions of the country. :p
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Postby Galloism » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:30 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
Galloism wrote:I was thinking personally how much more it will cost me to put healthy food on the table.

Seconded.

If you outlaw guns only outlaws will have nutritious and cheap food in large portions of the country. :p

Or I'd have to get a crossbow. I just don't like them because, compared with a good rifle, I feel they're very cruel to hunt with.

I'm also extremely lousy with a longbow.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:31 pm

Galloism wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Seconded.

If you outlaw guns only outlaws will have nutritious and cheap food in large portions of the country. :p

Or I'd have to get a crossbow. I just don't like them because, compared with a good rifle, I feel they're very cruel to hunt with.

I'm also extremely lousy with a longbow.


You could try a sword.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:31 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Galloism wrote:Or I'd have to get a crossbow. I just don't like them because, compared with a good rifle, I feel they're very cruel to hunt with.

I'm also extremely lousy with a longbow.


You could try a sword.

I can run surprisingly fast for a person my size.

Not as fast as a deer.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:33 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Galloism wrote:Or I'd have to get a crossbow. I just don't like them because, compared with a good rifle, I feel they're very cruel to hunt with.

I'm also extremely lousy with a longbow.


You could try a sword.

Thought an image of a dude chasing a deer with a sword was hilarious and typed 'sword hunting' into google.

Results. (scroll to bottom for the image that popped up for me. some bloody animals on page)

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You could try a sword.

I can run surprisingly fast for a person my size.

Not as fast as a deer.

Perhaps if you threw the sword?
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:34 pm

Galloism wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
You could try a sword.

I can run surprisingly fast for a person my size.

Not as fast as a deer.


When was the last time you saw a hunter with a 30-06 actually chase a deer before they were shot?
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Postby Galloism » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:35 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Galloism wrote:I can run surprisingly fast for a person my size.

Not as fast as a deer.


When was the last time you saw a hunter with a 30-06 actually chase a deer before they were shot?

I've never seen a hunter get shot, period, much less while/after chasing a deer.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:36 pm

Then again, I'm not as much for "gun control" as I am for the most effective method available that could prevent more tragedies like this one.

And I do not believe that guns are the problem, just a part of it. Hell, even Michael Moore agreed on that one.

I think that some gun control would be a sensible move right now, in the short term, while maybe the government begins to think about the long term and considers the possibility of taking a jab at the violence-glorifying, paranoia-inducing culture in the United States and mental health. The latter should be a priority.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:36 pm

Galloism wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
When was the last time you saw a hunter with a 30-06 actually chase a deer before they were shot?

I've never seen a hunter get shot, period, much less while/after chasing a deer.


Smart ass. You know what I mean.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:36 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Galloism wrote:I've never seen a hunter get shot, period, much less while/after chasing a deer.


Smart ass. You know what I mean.

Of course I do.

Never the other thing either.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:37 pm

Liriena wrote:Then again, I'm not as much for "gun control" as I am for the most effective method available that could prevent more tragedies like this one.

And I do not believe that guns are the problem, just a part of it. Hell, even Michael Moore agreed on that one.

I think that some gun control would be a sensible move right now, in the short term, while maybe the government begins to think about the long term and considers the possibility of taking a jab at the violence-glorifying, paranoia-inducing culture in the United States and mental health. The latter should be a priority.


That would go a long way to preventing these tragedies.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:38 pm

Galloism wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Smart ass. You know what I mean.

Of course I do.

Never the other thing either.


A 30-06 with a scope and a decent shot should be able to hit any deer withing 500m.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:40 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Liriena wrote:Then again, I'm not as much for "gun control" as I am for the most effective method available that could prevent more tragedies like this one.

And I do not believe that guns are the problem, just a part of it. Hell, even Michael Moore agreed on that one.

I think that some gun control would be a sensible move right now, in the short term, while maybe the government begins to think about the long term and considers the possibility of taking a jab at the violence-glorifying, paranoia-inducing culture in the United States and mental health. The latter should be a priority.


That would go a long way to preventing these tragedies.


I remember that, in "Bowling for Columbine", Michael Moore addressed the possibility that TV shows like "Cops" had something to do with the paranoia that leads to Americans committing gun-related crimes at a higher rate than the Canadians and the Swiss, who have similar rates of gun ownership.
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Postby Choronzon » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:40 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Liriena wrote:Then again, I'm not as much for "gun control" as I am for the most effective method available that could prevent more tragedies like this one.

And I do not believe that guns are the problem, just a part of it. Hell, even Michael Moore agreed on that one.

I think that some gun control would be a sensible move right now, in the short term, while maybe the government begins to think about the long term and considers the possibility of taking a jab at the violence-glorifying, paranoia-inducing culture in the United States and mental health. The latter should be a priority.


That would go a long way to preventing these tragedies.

Undoubtedly, and no one is saying otherwise. But pretending like our current gun laws are ok, or even worse demanding that discussing them be off the table, is not reasonable.

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Postby Liriena » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:42 pm

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Big Jim P wrote:
That would go a long way to preventing these tragedies.

Undoubtedly, and no one is saying otherwise. But pretending like our current gun laws are ok, or even worse demanding that discussing them be off the table, is not reasonable.


Agreed. And advocating for teachers and students to carry weapons into school is not even unreasonable. It's irresponsible.
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Postby Choronzon » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:45 pm

Liriena wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Undoubtedly, and no one is saying otherwise. But pretending like our current gun laws are ok, or even worse demanding that discussing them be off the table, is not reasonable.


Agreed. And advocating for teachers and students to carry weapons into school is not even unreasonable. It's irresponsible.

Agreed, arming teachers seems like a really bad call. If for no other reason than we'd probably see an increase in teachers killing their students (particularly in middle school and high school classrooms).

I am not joking.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:46 pm

Liriena wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Undoubtedly, and no one is saying otherwise. But pretending like our current gun laws are ok, or even worse demanding that discussing them be off the table, is not reasonable.


Agreed. And advocating for teachers and students to carry weapons into school is not even unreasonable. It's irresponsible.


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Postby Genivaria » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:47 pm

Galloism wrote:
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You could try a sword.

I can run surprisingly fast for a person my size.

Not as fast as a deer.

Sprint damnit, use the L1 button.
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Postby Emile Zola » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:48 pm

Not surprised the NRA endorses such stupidity. What else would expect from a guy that gets paid a million dollars a year to lobby for more guns. It flies in the face of evidence that in Australia prior to strict gun regulation we had 13 mass shootings in 18 years. Since 1996 we have had none. It is not just mass shootings that are an issue. Over 100 Americans have been killed by gun violence since Friday. If this is an acceptable way to live in a society then the US has permanent lock on the Darwin Awards from here on in.

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Postby Vareiln » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:49 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:This is what makes battlefields so safe, all those guns.

What makes battlefields safe are the artillery. You won't be getting shot at if the enemy is blown to bits.
Anyways, more NRA-sponsored stupidity. Great. It's like they're Poe's who are trying to get guns banned in this country.

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Postby Rynatia » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:49 pm

It would make school more fun if a firefight broke out every now and then.

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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:50 pm

Choronzon wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
That would go a long way to preventing these tragedies.

Undoubtedly, and no one is saying otherwise. But pretending like our current gun laws are ok, or even worse demanding that discussing them be off the table, is not reasonable.


As is a blanket assumption that guns are nothing but killing machines and need to be banned.
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Postby Rynatia » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:51 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Undoubtedly, and no one is saying otherwise. But pretending like our current gun laws are ok, or even worse demanding that discussing them be off the table, is not reasonable.


As is a blanket assumption that guns are nothing but killing machines and need to be banned.

Guns are nothing but killing machines -.-

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