NRA - Put Armed Good Guys In All Schools

[Big Jim P]

Self defense for one.

That's killing by the way.
He never specified murder.

Point. Some people think that ALL killing is bad.

[Choronzon]

You don't care about them.
You just want to push your agenda by any means necessary.

Why do people make a big deal about 20 children gunned down anyways? More people die every day by other means.

I mean, its not like its a big deal.

[Abatael]

You don't care about them.
You just want to push your agenda by any means necessary.

Decreasing the amount of gun violence is indeed an agenda. I'm still waiting on why that's a bad agenda.

I know it's an agenda; that's why I called it one...

It's not your agenda that is wrong, but your means of pushing it forward.

[Gauthier]

What's worse is that the liberals are trying to capitalize on and politicize the death of over twenty innocent Americans.
Have they no shame? Are they that desperate and depraved?

More like we are rightfully outraged at the fact that this sort of horror keeps happening over and over and the right-wing still hasn't even dared give a thought to the possibility that maybe guns are not the solution but part of a bigger problem. And maybe we are so shocked by this atrocity that we desperately want this to NEVER happen again, and are willing to talk about sensible ways to prevent it.

Guns didn't kill those 20 kids at Sandy Hook, video games and movies did! Wayne LaPierre said so!

[Choronzon]

That's killing by the way.
He never specified murder.

Point. Some people think that ALL killing is bad.

I am not one of those people.

Still waiting for all those other purposes guns have aside from inflicting harm.

[Mavorpen]

Decreasing the amount of gun violence is indeed an agenda. I'm still waiting on why that's a bad agenda.

I know it's an agenda; that's why I called it one...

It's not your agenda that is wrong, but your means of pushing it forward.

Discussing gun violence after a violent act done via guns is wrong?

Keep this going, it's hilarious.

[Big Jim P]

Decreasing the amount of gun violence is indeed an agenda. I'm still waiting on why that's a bad agenda.

I know it's an agenda; that's why I called it one...

It's not your agenda that is wrong, but your means of pushing it forward.

Were I prone to beliefs in conspiracies, I would not be surprised that these shooting were not orchestrated by the gun-control lobby.

[Abatael]

What's worse is that the liberals are trying to capitalize on and politicize the death of over twenty innocent Americans.
Have they no shame? Are they that desperate and depraved?

More like we are rightfully outraged at the fact that this sort of horror keeps happening over and over and the right-wing still hasn't even dared give a thought to the possibility that maybe guns are not the solution but part of a bigger problem. And maybe we are so shocked by this atrocity that we desperately want this to NEVER happen again, and are willing to talk about sensible ways to prevent it.

Yeah, I'm sure that's the reason.

[Big Jim P]

Point. Some people think that ALL killing is bad.

I am not one of those people.

Still waiting for all those other purposes guns have aside from inflicting harm.

Hunting, recreational shooting, and (as pointed out earlier) self-defense.

[Ostroeuropa]

More like we are rightfully outraged at the fact that this sort of horror keeps happening over and over and the right-wing still hasn't even dared give a thought to the possibility that maybe guns are not the solution but part of a bigger problem. And maybe we are so shocked by this atrocity that we desperately want this to NEVER happen again, and are willing to talk about sensible ways to prevent it.

Yeah, I'm sure that's the reason.

Why would they want to get rid of guns other than that reason.

[Choronzon]

I know it's an agenda; that's why I called it one...

It's not your agenda that is wrong, but your means of pushing it forward.

Were I prone to beliefs in conspiracies, I would not be surprised that these shooting were not orchestrated by the gun-control lobby.

Yes. Gun control lobbiests gunned down 20 children while in school in order to take away your boomstick.

I know I know,you don't actually believe it. You're just asking questions.

[Genivaria]

That's killing by the way.
He never specified murder.

Point. Some people think that ALL killing is bad.

I'm not one of them I assure you.
Its not something I'm proud of, but I do sincerely believe that this world would be better off if certain individuals were to die.

[Gauthier]

I am not one of those people.

Still waiting for all those other purposes guns have aside from inflicting harm.

Hunting, recreational shooting, and (as pointed out earlier) self-defense.

Bows and crossbows are used for hunting too. Don't hear of any bow shooting spree in the news.

[Liriena]

More like we are rightfully outraged at the fact that this sort of horror keeps happening over and over and the right-wing still hasn't even dared give a thought to the possibility that maybe guns are not the solution but part of a bigger problem. And maybe we are so shocked by this atrocity that we desperately want this to NEVER happen again, and are willing to talk about sensible ways to prevent it.

Guns didn't kill those 20 kids at Sandy Hook, video games and movies did! Wayne LaPierre said so!

Obviously! Violent video games like "Metal Gear Solid 4" (nevermind that it actually has some extremely pacifist themes) and movies like "The Pianist", with all its extreme violence, are to blame for this!

[Sdaeriji]

I know it's an agenda; that's why I called it one...

It's not your agenda that is wrong, but your means of pushing it forward.

Were I prone to beliefs in conspiracies, I would not be surprised that these shooting were not orchestrated by the gun-control lobby.

"I would be surprised that these shooting were orchestrated by the gun-control lobby."

This is what happens when you try to be fancier with your writing than you can actually handle.

[Abatael]

I know it's an agenda; that's why I called it one...

It's not your agenda that is wrong, but your means of pushing it forward.

Discussing gun violence after a violent act done via guns is wrong?

Keep this going, it's hilarious.

No, politicizing the death of over twenty innocent children and adults is wrong.

[Choronzon]

I am not one of those people.

Still waiting for all those other purposes guns have aside from inflicting harm.

Hunting, recreational shooting, and (as pointed out earlier) self-defense.

All of those things involved killing beyond recreational shooting, and I don't think training to be a more proficient killer counts as using your gun for purposes other than killing.

Still waiting.

[Mavorpen]

Discussing gun violence after a violent act done via guns is wrong?

Keep this going, it's hilarious.

No, politicizing the death of over twenty innocent children and adults is wrong.

I'm curious. How do you discuss a matter of public policy concerning gun violence without it being political?

[Gauthier]

Discussing gun violence after a violent act done via guns is wrong?

Keep this going, it's hilarious.

No, politicizing the death of over twenty innocent children and adults is wrong.

Yeah, how dare we politicize the death of those people in New York on 9/11!

[Genivaria]

I am not one of those people.

Still waiting for all those other purposes guns have aside from inflicting harm.

Hunting, recreational shooting, and (as pointed out earlier) self-defense.

Then make it so that the guns (assuming we'd allow that) are kept at the firing range and wherever hunters congregate so that they must register their use at the start of the season.
Also, real hunters use a bow.

[Lenciland]

Guns don't kill people. People kill people with guns as a medium.
If you say that guns kill people then my brother can tell his teacher that his pencil made him misspell words or my friend can say that his car made him hit that lady or that spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat or my nine fingered cousin can say that the butcher knife made him cut his finger off. Bottom line is that guns when handled by mentally sound, well trained people can't hurt any innocent person. If guns should be banned so should cars, beer, cigarettes, knives, and trains because they can all be used to kill people. In fact almost anything in the world can be used to kill somebody.

[Ostroeuropa]

Hunting, recreational shooting, and (as pointed out earlier) self-defense.

All of those things involved killing beyond recreational shooting, and I don't think training to be a more proficient killer counts as using your gun for purposes other than killing.

Still waiting.

War re-enactments and such, so education. (I'm having fun thinking of these )

[San-Silvacian]

I am not one of those people.

Still waiting for all those other purposes guns have aside from inflicting harm.

Hunting, recreational shooting, and (as pointed out earlier) self-defense.

Hunting: Inflicting harm on animals to survive = wrong

Recreational shooting: Inflicting harm on innocent air = wrong

Self-Defense: Inflicting harm on someone who is going to inflict harm on you = wrong

obv all guns are evil

[Viserker]

I guess there's the advantage of being a Federation of states rather than a centralist goverment (at least i theory), so laws can be adapted to the state they are related to, since there are different situations and outlooks depending of wich part of the country you are, so just to get some perspective wich state are you guys from? have there been similar events in your state or region? and if so, how have they been handled?

[Ostroeuropa]

Hunting, recreational shooting, and (as pointed out earlier) self-defense.

All of those things involved killing beyond recreational shooting, and I don't think training to be a more proficient killer counts as using your gun for purposes other than killing.

Still waiting.

Scientific studies, durability tests...