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Armed "Good Guys" in Schools

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:29 pm

greed and death wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Choice, Free Speech, and Gay Rights advocates don't have the same fiendish fervor over their issue that the Gun Runners (catch the reference?) do theirs. Do you even false equivalency, bro?

They would not need to, if gun rights were given the same protection of speech and abortion.


In other words, everyone has a right to guns, even military models with no other purpose than mass casualities. Got it.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:29 pm

greed and death wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Choice, Free Speech, and Gay Rights advocates don't have the same fiendish fervor over their issue that the Gun Runners (catch the reference?) do theirs. Do you even false equivalency, bro?

They would not need to, if gun rights were given the same protection of speech and abortion.

Can't tell if serious, or...
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Postby Xathranaar » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:29 pm

Gauthier wrote:
greed and death wrote:They would not need to, if gun rights were given the same protection of speech and abortion.


In other words, everyone has a right to guns, even military models with no other purpose than mass casualities. Got it.

... but... but what if the zombies attack?
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Postby Jedi8246 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:30 pm

Gauthier wrote:
greed and death wrote:They would not need to, if gun rights were given the same protection of speech and abortion.


In other words, everyone has a right to guns, even military models with no other purpose than mass casualities. Got it.

Quite right. Of course some people are collectors.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:30 pm

Xathranaar wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
In other words, everyone has a right to guns, even military models with no other purpose than mass casualities. Got it.

... but... but what if the zombies attack?


Machetes don't run out of bullets.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:31 pm

Xathranaar wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
In other words, everyone has a right to guns, even military models with no other purpose than mass casualities. Got it.

... but... but what if the zombies attack?

Your semiautomatic assault rifle will have to do.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:31 pm

Jedi8246 wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
In other words, everyone has a right to guns, even military models with no other purpose than mass casualities. Got it.

Quite right. Of course some people are collectors.

Quite wrong. Of course some people enjoy firing into crowds.
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Postby Jerusalem and Damascus » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:32 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:... but... but what if the zombies attack?

Your semiautomatic assault rifle will have to do.


I'm fairly certain it being semi-automatic would make it just a normal rifle.
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Postby Jedi8246 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:32 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:Quite right. Of course some people are collectors.

Quite wrong. Of course some people enjoy firing into crowds.

Poor souls. They need some better medical treatment. Perhaps they need placing in a home if they feel compelled to fire upon large crowds of folks.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:33 pm

Poorisolation wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Just as long as the Cult of the Gun doesn't show up and start hemming and hawing about tyranny and other shock-doctrine hyperoble the second someone mentions that technology has advanced since the 2nd Amendment, and maybe a bit of reasonable regulation is needed.

Deal?


Actually I would have to say no deal...you'll just have to bring along or better still convince more folks to outvote them on the relevant articles. Then again I strongly suspect that you ought to be able to do just that.
Good to know. I'll bring the entire city of Chicago because we're frankly tired of being held hostage by the Cult of Guns. We're tired people being murdered because its pefectly legal to buy a firearm in one state without so much as a background check, then having those weapons end up on the street and in the hands of criminals.

And most of all, on a personal note, I'm tired of being patronized by twerps like Wayne LaPierre, who isn't fooling anybody when he blames everything but the pervasive Cult of the Gun for the murder of 27 people at the hand of one deranged person who was too easily able to obtain those weapons and commit that act of uncalcuable brutality before turning one of them back on himself. I'm done with being fed BS by the likes of Ted Nugent, who aren't fooling that many people when he tries to not only claim the 2nd Amendment as an excuse for complete non-regulation but that military-pattern weapons are only used for hunting and target practice.
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Postby Jedi8246 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:35 pm

Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Your semiautomatic assault rifle will have to do.


I'm fairly certain it being semi-automatic would make it just a normal rifle.

Quite right.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:36 pm

Jedi8246 wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Quite wrong. Of course some people enjoy firing into crowds.

Poor souls. They need some better medical treatment. Perhaps they need placing in a home if they feel compelled to fire upon large crowds of folks.

Maybe it's hard to diagnose that type of condition. Maybe people without conditions can be put into such a mental state that they act irrationally.
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Postby Jedi8246 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:37 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Poorisolation wrote:
Actually I would have to say no deal...you'll just have to bring along or better still convince more folks to outvote them on the relevant articles. Then again I strongly suspect that you ought to be able to do just that.
Good to know. I'll bring the entire city of Chicago because we're frankly tired of being held hostage by the Cult of Guns. We're tired people being murdered because its pefectly legal to buy a firearm in one state without so much as a background check, then having those weapons end up on the street and in the hands of criminals.

And most of all, on a personal note, I'm tired of being patronized by twerps like Wayne LaPierre, who isn't fooling anybody when he blames everything but the pervasive Cult of the Gun for the murder of 27 people at the hand of one deranged person who was too easily able to obtain those weapons and commit that act of uncalcuable brutality before turning one of them back on himself. I'm done with being fed BS by the likes of Ted Nugent, who aren't fooling that many people when he tries to not only claim the 2nd Amendment as an excuse for complete non-regulation but that military-pattern weapons are only used for hunting and target practice.

Maybe if Chicago didn't leave a defenseless populace with nobody but a shitty police force to protect them they wouldn't be held hostage.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:38 pm

Jedi8246 wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Good to know. I'll bring the entire city of Chicago because we're frankly tired of being held hostage by the Cult of Guns. We're tired people being murdered because its pefectly legal to buy a firearm in one state without so much as a background check, then having those weapons end up on the street and in the hands of criminals.

And most of all, on a personal note, I'm tired of being patronized by twerps like Wayne LaPierre, who isn't fooling anybody when he blames everything but the pervasive Cult of the Gun for the murder of 27 people at the hand of one deranged person who was too easily able to obtain those weapons and commit that act of uncalcuable brutality before turning one of them back on himself. I'm done with being fed BS by the likes of Ted Nugent, who aren't fooling that many people when he tries to not only claim the 2nd Amendment as an excuse for complete non-regulation but that military-pattern weapons are only used for hunting and target practice.

Maybe if Chicago didn't leave a defenseless populace with nobody but a shitty police force to protect them they wouldn't be held hostage.

Right, because if people had MOAR GUNZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, they could somehow defend themselves from bullets. Guns are those things that deflect bullets, right?

EDIT: Also, I thought you were a libertarian, why do you want better police? Sounds like the first step to North Korea if you ask me.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:39 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:Maybe if Chicago didn't leave a defenseless populace with nobody but a shitty police force to protect them they wouldn't be held hostage.

Right, because if people had MOAR GUNZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, they could somehow defend themselves from bullets. Guns are those things that deflect bullets, right?


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Postby Jedi8246 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:39 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:Poor souls. They need some better medical treatment. Perhaps they need placing in a home if they feel compelled to fire upon large crowds of folks.

Maybe it's hard to diagnose that type of condition. Maybe people without conditions can be put into such a mental state that they act irrationally.

Maybe we should direct our efforts towards research to help improve diagnostics and other mental health problems. And anyone who is shooting on people needs to be locked up and promptly treated. Hopefully rehabilitated. Any mental state that tells you to go shoot people is not a healthy mental state.
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Postby Jerusalem and Damascus » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:40 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:Maybe if Chicago didn't leave a defenseless populace with nobody but a shitty police force to protect them they wouldn't be held hostage.

Right, because if people had MOAR GUNZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, they could somehow defend themselves from bullets. Guns are those things that deflect bullets, right?

EDIT: Also, I thought you were a libertarian, why do you want better police? Sounds like the first step to North Korea if you ask me.


Okay, that's just silly. Wanting a more well-equipped police force is not necessarily anti-Libertarian.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:40 pm

Jedi8246 wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Maybe it's hard to diagnose that type of condition. Maybe people without conditions can be put into such a mental state that they act irrationally.

Maybe we should direct our efforts towards research to help improve diagnostics and other mental health problems. And anyone who is shooting on people needs to be locked up and promptly treated. Hopefully rehabilitated. Any mental state that tells you to go shoot people is not a healthy mental state.

Maybe our culture portrays mentally ill people as weak, and it's harder to get treatment for those things than you would think.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:41 pm

Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Right, because if people had MOAR GUNZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, they could somehow defend themselves from bullets. Guns are those things that deflect bullets, right?

EDIT: Also, I thought you were a libertarian, why do you want better police? Sounds like the first step to North Korea if you ask me.


Okay, that's just silly. Wanting a more well-equipped police force is not necessarily anti-Libertarian.

Wanting a bigger one is.
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Postby Jedi8246 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:42 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:Maybe if Chicago didn't leave a defenseless populace with nobody but a shitty police force to protect them they wouldn't be held hostage.

Right, because if people had MOAR GUNZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, they could somehow defend themselves from bullets. Guns are those things that deflect bullets, right?

EDIT: Also, I thought you were a libertarian, why do you want better police? Sounds like the first step to North Korea if you ask me.

Guns can kinda do this thing where they can stop others from shooting. Go figure right?

I don't think it's necessarily un-libertarian to want a better police force. I do want a police force that actually can respond if needed and doesn't decide to abuse it's powers and act like a government funded gang.
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Postby Jerusalem and Damascus » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:42 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Okay, that's just silly. Wanting a more well-equipped police force is not necessarily anti-Libertarian.

Wanting a bigger one is.


No, it's not. Libertarianism advocates for a more hands-off approach in terms of law - people should be allowed to do what they wish, so long as it doesn't harm others, but opinions are highly varied as to whether the enforcement of those few laws that do exist should be strong.
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Postby Jedi8246 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:42 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Okay, that's just silly. Wanting a more well-equipped police force is not necessarily anti-Libertarian.

Wanting a bigger one is.

I said nothing about a bigger one.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:42 pm

Jedi8246 wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Right, because if people had MOAR GUNZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, they could somehow defend themselves from bullets. Guns are those things that deflect bullets, right?

EDIT: Also, I thought you were a libertarian, why do you want better police? Sounds like the first step to North Korea if you ask me.

Guns can kinda do this thing where they can stop others from shooting. Go figure right?

I don't think it's necessarily un-libertarian to want a better police force. I do want a police force that actually can respond if needed and doesn't decide to abuse it's powers and act like a government funded gang.

If someone is in a state where they are ready to shoot people, they don't care who's packing.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:43 pm

Jedi8246 wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Wanting a bigger one is.

I said nothing about a bigger one.

So we would keep the same force, but outfit them better. Because the current force is plenty big enough, they just have defective stuff.
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Jedi8246
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Postby Jedi8246 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:43 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:Maybe we should direct our efforts towards research to help improve diagnostics and other mental health problems. And anyone who is shooting on people needs to be locked up and promptly treated. Hopefully rehabilitated. Any mental state that tells you to go shoot people is not a healthy mental state.

Maybe our culture portrays mentally ill people as weak, and it's harder to get treatment for those things than you would think.

Thus my remark about improving that problem.
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