Atheist

[Conscentia]

Why?

Because there is no real way to find out, and everybody has a different opinion, It's not like people have taken to much time researching this.

Yes there is. Isolate a baby, and watch it to see if it does anything theistlike.

[Frisivisia]

You are completely wrong. The definitions back us up on it, not you.
And whats more, if you meant, babies are secretly going around believing in god, i'm fairly sure we can disprove that.
Would anyone know what terms to search to bring up:
1. The brainscans of theists told to "think about god and stuff."
2. The brainscans of babies

If humans were born theists, I doubt Estonia would have a population in which 75% of the population do not belief in deities.

To be fair, the pseudo-communists kinda obliterated the religion there.

[Ostroeuropa]

No, i'm an agnostic atheist with regard to some that have been crafted specifically to show that I can't disprove them.
I've never confronted a theist who believed in a god i couldn't disprove.

That is an interesting concept, may I ask which ones?

Any that violate basic rules of logic.
When they throw a tantrum and say logic doesn't apply, i roll my eyes.
If they invoke des cartes, I point out that an implicit definition of "exist" and "Reality" is the shared one, and they are refering to a super-reality.
Within this reality/dream/matrix, there is no god. Whether that holds true outside of it is irrelevent.
If someone proposes omniscience, omnipotence, etc, those are instantly disprovable.

[Liberated Counties]

I never became one I was raised one, some will say that's brainwashing but even though I've had an athiest upbringing I've researched religion but its just not logical to me

[Wind in the Willows]

They lack evidence, as Divair said.

[Communal Ecotopia]

Would ya'll say that there's a difference in how Atheists who are former atheists, and Atheists who were never theists, would you say there's a difference in how they view religion in general?
Like I was raised in a religious setting and I absolutely despise religion. Is that normal for former theists?

I suspect like many who convert to a faith rather than being born into it, becoming an atheist or agnostic renders one more vehement in his or her position. As an agnostic atheist, I have friends who have, at the very least, gone through phases which were heavily intolerant towards those of faith. While I agree with them on the substance of claims, the arrogance of the gnostic atheist is almost as bad as the true-believing fundamentalist...and, I think, most gnostic atheists come from former positions of faith.

[Great Nepal]

Why?

Because there is no real way to find out, and everybody has a different opinion, It's not like people have taken to much time researching this.

Have you considered that people haven't taken time to research that because it is blatantly obvious?
Theism requires someone to believe in existence of Gods.
New born are kinda too preoccupied with crying and without appropriate knowledge or brain capacity to believe in magic fairies.
Therefore they are atheist. Basic logic.

Edit: And for OP: First I was Hindu as I was raised one, not really that faithful Hindu but "whatever sure" one. Then, I came to NSG and started to sway towards Atheism and then after reading on Hinduism realized you could be an Atheist Hindu.

[Rickgrad]

When the myth of the easter bunny, santa, and the tooth farie were busted I concluded religion was no different.

[Conscentia]

If humans were born theists, I doubt Estonia would have a population in which 75% of the population do not belief in deities.

To be fair, the pseudo-communists kinda obliterated the religion there.

That simply helps my point. If children are not taught to be theists, they are not theists.

[Ostroeuropa]

Because there is no real way to find out, and everybody has a different opinion, It's not like people have taken to much time researching this.

Have you considered that people haven't taken time to research that because it is blatantly obvious?
Theism requires someone to believe in existence of Gods.
New born are kinda too preoccupied with crying and without appropriate knowledge or brain capacity to believe in magic fairies.
Therefore they are atheist. Basic logic.

Researching the blatantly obvious is a hobby for philosophers.
"No you bastard, don't ask me to source that."
"Haha, source."
"Fuck you." *spends years researching to prove the world is flat*
"...well, shit."

[Dastardly V]

Even if you believe in god, you'd have to agree babies are athiest. Atheist merely means you don't believe in a god. It also doesn't mean you believe there absolutely isn't, its just a lack in a belief in god. So, a baby is too young to understand that concept. it would be after its older and understands what you are saying that it would believe in god.

[Xathranaar]

Because there is no real way to find out, and everybody has a different opinion, It's not like people have taken to much time researching this.

Have you considered that people haven't taken time to research that because it is blatantly obvious?
Theism requires someone to believe in existence of Gods.
New born are kinda too preoccupied with crying and without appropriate knowledge or brain capacity to believe in magic fairies.
Therefore they are atheist. Basic logic.

Vortropolis knows we are right, and knows he has no coherent rebuttal. He just will not admit he is wrong, so there is really no use continuing to try to explain it to him.

[Vortropolis]

Because there is no real way to find out, and everybody has a different opinion, It's not like people have taken to much time researching this.

Have you considered that people haven't taken time to research that because it is blatantly obvious?
Theism requires someone to believe in existence of Gods.
New born are kinda too preoccupied with crying and without appropriate knowledge or brain capacity to believe in magic fairies.
Therefore they are atheist. Basic logic.

I don't know why you are still responding, nobody is going to start saying babies are born atheist just because some atheists on a forum told them they are.

[Divair]

Have you considered that people haven't taken time to research that because it is blatantly obvious?
Theism requires someone to believe in existence of Gods.
New born are kinda too preoccupied with crying and without appropriate knowledge or brain capacity to believe in magic fairies.
Therefore they are atheist. Basic logic.

I don't know why you are still responding, nobody is going to start saying babies are born atheist just because some atheists on a forum told them they are.

And now he is just downright ignoring everyone.

I think our job here is done.

[Ostroeuropa]

Have you considered that people haven't taken time to research that because it is blatantly obvious?
Theism requires someone to believe in existence of Gods.
New born are kinda too preoccupied with crying and without appropriate knowledge or brain capacity to believe in magic fairies.
Therefore they are atheist. Basic logic.

Vortropolis knows we are right, and knows he has no coherent rebuttal. He just will not admit he is wrong, so there is really no use continuing to try to explain it to him.

To be fair i'm a bit of a worm for that.
If I were him, i'd disappear, then come back later and pretend I'd always held the view that babies were atheists and argue just as strongly.

[Ostroeuropa]

Have you considered that people haven't taken time to research that because it is blatantly obvious?
Theism requires someone to believe in existence of Gods.
New born are kinda too preoccupied with crying and without appropriate knowledge or brain capacity to believe in magic fairies.
Therefore they are atheist. Basic logic.

I don't know why you are still responding, nobody is going to start saying babies are born atheist just because some atheists on a forum told them they are.

You mean, dictionaries, wikipedia, philosophy departments...

[Samuraikoku]

I don't know why you are still responding, nobody is going to start saying babies are born atheist just because some atheists on a forum told them they are.

I ask you again.

Do you believe?

If so, when did you start believing?

Do you not believe?

If so, have you never believed, or have you believed something previously?

[Uiiop]

Have you considered that people haven't taken time to research that because it is blatantly obvious?
Theism requires someone to believe in existence of Gods.
New born are kinda too preoccupied with crying and without appropriate knowledge or brain capacity to believe in magic fairies.
Therefore they are atheist. Basic logic.

I don't know why you are still responding, nobody is going to start saying babies are born atheist just because some atheists on a forum told them they are.

Some people aren't going to change their minds just because someone put fingers in their ears in sight of a definition.

[Vortropolis]

I don't know why you are still responding, nobody is going to start saying babies are born atheist just because some atheists on a forum told them they are.

You mean, dictionaries, wikipedia, philosophy departments...

Naaa just atheists.

[Thisbia]

@Ostroeuropa I know. I have found that Christians have 'safety net' philosophies, for lack of a better phrasing.
"That's a distraction"
"Worry about doing what's right and God will help you understand later"
and my personal favorite from a born again pastor: "Don't use intelligence. That's the devil's battleground. The destroyer. Just go with the Holy Spirit and the feeling in your heart"

I studied with everyone. Remember Dire Straits 'Industrial Disease'? Two men say they're Jesus. One of 'em must be wrong.
The Bible does not agree with Science, history, and common sense. So one must be false. Boom, I'm an atheist. At least as far as deification.

[Great Nepal]

Have you considered that people haven't taken time to research that because it is blatantly obvious?
Theism requires someone to believe in existence of Gods.
New born are kinda too preoccupied with crying and without appropriate knowledge or brain capacity to believe in magic fairies.
Therefore they are atheist. Basic logic.

Researching the blatantly obvious is a hobby for philosophers.
"No you bastard, don't ask me to source that."
"Haha, source."
"Fuck you." *spends years researching to prove the world is flat*
"...well, shit."

Who cares for philosophers.

[Ostroeuropa]

You mean, dictionaries, wikipedia, philosophy departments...

Naaa just atheists.

So you havn't even bothered to check.
You hold a view, dozens of people have told you it's the wrong one and explained precisely why, told you where you can find out more, and yet you are apparently refusing.
At this point, i'm comfortable writing you off as a lost cause because of intellectual dishonesty and an unwillingness to better yourself or learn new things.
Whereas previously I, and perhaps some of the others, were responding to get you to understand, now I think we'll probably respond for the benefit of other readers. Not you.

[The USOT]

Have you considered that people haven't taken time to research that because it is blatantly obvious?
Theism requires someone to believe in existence of Gods.
New born are kinda too preoccupied with crying and without appropriate knowledge or brain capacity to believe in magic fairies.
Therefore they are atheist. Basic logic.

I don't know why you are still responding, nobody is going to start saying babies are born atheist just because some atheists on a forum told them they are.

AND at this point we confirm either stupidity or trollhood. I hope its the latter in which case well done I genuinly figured you were that concerningly bad at understanding simple concepts!
If not I understand the embarrasment... now lets move on

[Great Nepal]

Have you considered that people haven't taken time to research that because it is blatantly obvious?
Theism requires someone to believe in existence of Gods.
New born are kinda too preoccupied with crying and without appropriate knowledge or brain capacity to believe in magic fairies.
Therefore they are atheist. Basic logic.

I don't know why you are still responding, nobody is going to start saying babies are born atheist just because some atheists on a forum told them they are.

Some people like to believe that world is flat and wont believe world is round. Doesn't make it any less of a fact.

[Vortropolis]

Naaa just atheists.

So you havn't even bothered to check.
You hold a view, dozens of atheists have told you it's the wrong one and explained precisely why, told you where you can find out more, and yet you are apparently refusing.
At this point, i'm comfortable writing you off as a lost cause because of intellectual dishonesty and an unwillingness to better yourself or learn new things.

Thats a bit more accurate.