Atheist

[Conscentia]

You don't need knowledge.
Belief is independent of knowledge.
This has been explained many times.

I thought atheism wasn't a belief.

Right, Atheism is not a belief. It is a lack of belief.
You can lack belief without knowledge.
You possess belief without knowledge.

Babies lack both belief and knowledge. The only thing that relevant is that they lack belief.
This lack of belief in deities in atheism.
Their lack of knowledge is irrelevant.

[Vortropolis]

I thought atheism wasn't a belief.

It is a lack of belief. And since those babies do not have belief, they are atheists.

How hard is it for you to understand?

I, honestly think this whole babies are atheist thing is more of an opinion than a fact.

[Conscentia]

It is a lack of belief. And since those babies do not have belief, they are atheists.
How hard is it for you to understand?

I, honestly think this whole babies are atheist thing is more of an opinion than a fact.

Why?

[The USOT]

It is a lack of belief. And since those babies do not have belief, they are atheists.

How hard is it for you to understand?

I, honestly think this whole babies are atheist thing is more of an opinion than a fact.

Ok. Do you understand that atheism is the lack of beleif in a deity?

[Divair]

It is a lack of belief. And since those babies do not have belief, they are atheists.

How hard is it for you to understand?

I, honestly think this whole babies are atheist thing is more of an opinion than a fact.

No, it is a fact. Are they not humans because they don't know they are humans?

[Samuraikoku]

I, honestly think this whole babies are atheist thing is more of an opinion than a fact.

Again. Babies aren't born theist. You weren't born a theist. Therefore, babies are atheists.

[Ostroeuropa]

It is a lack of belief. And since those babies do not have belief, they are atheists.

How hard is it for you to understand?

I, honestly think this whole babies are atheist thing is more of an opinion than a fact.

You are completely wrong. The definitions back us up on it, not you.
And whats more, if you meant, babies are secretly going around believing in god, i'm fairly sure we can disprove that.
Would anyone know what terms to search to bring up:
1. The brainscans of theists told to "think about god and stuff."
2. The brainscans of babies

[Uiiop]

I, honestly think this whole babies are atheist thing is more of an opinion than a fact.

Why?

he is keeping his original definition that you'll have to think about it despite our posts.

[Vortropolis]

I, honestly think this whole babies are atheist thing is more of an opinion than a fact.

Why?

Because there is no real way to find out, and everybody has a different opinion, It's not like people have taken to much time researching this.

[Thisbia]

For the record i'm a Gnostic Atheist.
(With regard to almost every god.)

Almost? So do you believe in any god(s)??

[Ostroeuropa]

Why?

Because there is no real way to find out, and everybody has a different opinion, It's not like people have taken to much time researching this.

So you accept that unless babies are secretly believing in god, then they are atheists.
Excellent.
Someone grab those brainscans.

[Vortropolis]

I, honestly think this whole babies are atheist thing is more of an opinion than a fact.

You are completely wrong. The definitions back us up on it, not you.
And whats more, if you meant, babies are secretly going around believing in god, i'm fairly sure we can disprove that.
Would anyone know what terms to search to bring up:
1. The brainscans of theists told to "think about god and stuff."
2. The brainscans of babies

It was the same thing for theism babies can't believe in god either.

[Xathranaar]

It is a lack of belief. And since those babies do not have belief, they are atheists.

How hard is it for you to understand?

I, honestly think this whole babies are atheist thing is more of an opinion than a fact.

Your stance at this point seems to boil down to: "I don't like your conclusion, so I'm going to try really hard not to understand the argument."

[Ostroeuropa]

For the record i'm a Gnostic Atheist.
(With regard to almost every god.)

Almost? So do you believe in any god(s)??

No, i'm an agnostic atheist with regard to some that have been crafted specifically to show that I can't disprove them.
I've never confronted a theist who believed in a god i couldn't disprove.

[Vortropolis]

Because there is no real way to find out, and everybody has a different opinion, It's not like people have taken to much time researching this.

So you accept that unless babies are secretly believing in god, then they are atheists.
Excellent.
Someone grab those brainscans.

Nope still not a fact just an opinion.

[Divair]

You are completely wrong. The definitions back us up on it, not you.
And whats more, if you meant, babies are secretly going around believing in god, i'm fairly sure we can disprove that.
Would anyone know what terms to search to bring up:
1. The brainscans of theists told to "think about god and stuff."
2. The brainscans of babies

It was the same thing for theism babies can't believe in god either.

Babies don't know they are humans. Are they thus not humans?

[Stovokor]

Based on what? You don't like the conclusion?

It just doesn't make any sense, a baby has no knowledge on atheism, yet you call them atheist.

You simply restated the obvious, the lack of knowledge of faith/religion/belief in an almighty being/beings, makes them athiest, they don't start out in life believing there's a god, it's taught to them.

[Samuraikoku]

Because there is no real way to find out, and everybody has a different opinion, It's not like people have taken to much time researching this.

There's a simple way to find out: Do you believe? If so, when did you start believing?

[Uiiop]

So you accept that unless babies are secretly believing in god, then they are atheists.
Excellent.
Someone grab those brainscans.

Nope still not a fact just an opinion.

how do you know we don't know?

[Ostroeuropa]

So you accept that unless babies are secretly believing in god, then they are atheists.
Excellent.
Someone grab those brainscans.

Nope still not a fact just an opinion.

I don't think you understand what Opinion means.
The definitions back us up. On what basis do you claim it is an opinion. We KNOW the definition. It isn't a matter of opinion.
(The underlined.)

[Conscentia]

I, honestly think this whole babies are atheist thing is more of an opinion than a fact.

You are completely wrong. The definitions back us up on it, not you.
And whats more, if you meant, babies are secretly going around believing in god, i'm fairly sure we can disprove that.
Would anyone know what terms to search to bring up:
1. The brainscans of theists told to "think about god and stuff."
2. The brainscans of babies

If humans were born theists, I doubt Estonia would have a population in which 75% of the population do not belief in deities.

[Thisbia]

Almost? So do you believe in any god(s)??

No, i'm an agnostic atheist with regard to some that have been crafted specifically to show that I can't disprove them.
I've never confronted a theist who believed in a god i couldn't disprove.

That is an interesting concept, may I ask which ones?

[The USOT]

Why?

Because there is no real way to find out, and everybody has a different opinion, It's not like people have taken to much time researching this.

In this instance you dont need to prove the babies thoughts, just what they are not thinking/practicing.

Without any evidence to suggest they have any religious inclinations whatsoever and indeed so far all of the evidence pointing against it (with babies not having yet developed the ability to express higher reasoning on the nature of reality) we can indeed confirm absent of oppinion that babies are atheists.

Its no different from saying that we can confirm babies do not understand quantum physics and are not physicists.

[Xathranaar]

Why?

Because there is no real way to find out, and everybody has a different opinion, It's not like people have taken to much time researching this.

It is not even a matter of research. It is simply a matter of thought.

Theism is an elective and not an innate position, one which infants do not have the ability to assume, that makes them atheists.

EDIT:
I don't even know why you are upset at this point. It is not as though babies being atheists somehow constitutes a 'win' for atheism. Newborns are not many things they may later learn to become, for good or for ill.

[Samuraikoku]

how do you know we don't know?

Ask Donald Rumsfeld.