Atheist

[Hebalobia]

I was raised as a Christian but Christianity's rejection of the Theory of Evolution led me to question all tenets of Christianity. As an engineer I'm trained to try and allow the evidence to objectively establish a conclusion. The more I studied Christianity and the more I learned about the history of Christianity the less tenable I found it.

Ultimately I was forced to reject Christianity but was unwilling to let go of my belief in a god. For a while I was a deist until I realized that was little more than wishful thinking. I then became a fence sitting "Agnostic" until I realized that an Agnostic is simply an Atheist that understands that he could be wrong because belief and knowledge are two different things. At that point I realized that I was in fact an Atheist and began using the term.

I'm what is known as a Weak Atheist. I'm willing to listen to evidence that will justify believing in a deity. As a matter of fact I would be very happy if a kind, benevolent all powerful deity did exist and was watching over us. Unfortunately I've never been presented any compelling evidence that such a deity exists. There is more evidence that a malevolent deity exists than that a benevolent one exists and that concerns me a little.

[Samuraikoku]

Regardless, I'm pretty sure Slaanesh could make them yield.

Remember the Primarch!

Fulgrim killed Guilliman. The Ultramarines would never bow to Slaanesh.

[Dyakovo]

How are you not getting this?

Atheism derives from:
A - Greek prefix meaning "not" or "without", as in "asymmetry" meaning "not symmetry".
&
Theism - Belief in god(s).

Atheism is literally "Without Theism" (ie. Without belief in god(s).)

Babies are without belief in god(s).
They are therefore atheists.

Babies don't decide their atheists, they don't even think about it, they don't even know atheism or theism exists.

Atheism is not something you need to decide on.
If you lack belief in a deity or deities for any reason, you are an atheist.

[Xathranaar]

If memory serves, Adam and Eve's sons found wives east of Eden and didn't have to resort to fucking their mother to be fruitful and multiply. Which only raises further questions.

But, how could that be? The bible states Adam and Ever were the first created, never stated god created anyone else, and adam and eve only had sons...

Maybe they wandered in the desert too long and hallucinated and found a scorpian and engaged in coitus?

Well, you do share an awful lot of your DNA with chimpanzees...

[Samuraikoku]

Babies don't decide their atheists, they don't even think about it, they don't even know atheism or theism exists.

That is agnosticism, friend. It comes from gnosis = knowledge, and it's not related to belief.

[Ostroeuropa]

I was raised as a Christian but Christianity's rejection of the Theory of Evolution led me to question all tenets of Christianity. As an engineer I'm trained to try and allow the evidence to objectively establish a conclusion. The more I studied Christianity and the more I learned about the history of Christianity the less tenable I found it.

Ultimately I was forced to reject Christianity but was unwilling to let go of my belief in a god. For a while I was a deist until I realized that was little more than wishful thinking. I then became a fence sitting "Agnostic" until I realized that an Agnostic is simply an Atheist that understands that he could be wrong because belief and knowledge are two different things. At that point I realized that I was in fact an Atheist and began using the term.

I'm what is known as a Weak Atheist. I'm willing to listen to evidence that will justify believing in a deity. As a matter of fact I would be very happy if a kind, benevolent all powerful deity did exist and was watching over us. Unfortunately I've never been presented any compelling evidence that such a deity exists. There is more evidence that a malevolent deity exists than that a benevolent one exists and that concerns me a little.

Your post brings up something i've noticed a lot out of ex-religious people.
Typically all it takes is one chink in the armor, then, if they are rational folk, they'll immediately re-evaluate the whole body of evidence and usually come to the conclusion that it's not worth believing in.
It's for this reason that the rise of moderate religion is, in my opinion, a direct result of a lack of critical thought.
People who's ancestors (Or even themselves) simply discarded PART of a belief instead of re-evaluating it as a whole when contradictory evidence came into view.
It's led to a situation where a moderate can be extremely well versed in critical thought, but completely unprovoked into practicing it since none of their believes will be flat out disproven (as opposed to merely unproven)

[Pravengria]

But, how could that be? The bible states Adam and Ever were the first created, never stated god created anyone else, and adam and eve only had sons...

Maybe they wandered in the desert too long and hallucinated and found a scorpian and engaged in coitus?

Well, you do share an awful lot of your DNA with chimpanzees...

Dear god...this is where the Kardashians came from!

[Xathranaar]

Regardless, I'm pretty sure Slaanesh could make them yield.

Remember the Primarch!

Fulgrim killed Guilliman. The Ultramarines would never bow to Slaanesh.

Of course not. They'd bend over for Slaanesh.

[Vortropolis]

Babies don't decide their atheists, they don't even think about it, they don't even know atheism or theism exists.

They don't have to know that such words exists in order to be atheists.

Atheism is a word describes a trait. Babies possess that trait. They are atheists, whether they know it or not.

So you'r telling me babies, are atheists because,they can't decide on atheism or theism, and they have no knowledge on god or atheism and they don't think about it, and they are atheist wether they know it or not, gotcha.

[Ostroeuropa]

They don't have to know that such words exists in order to be atheists.

Atheism is a word describes a trait. Babies possess that trait. They are atheists, whether they know it or not.

So you'r telling me babies, are atheists because,they can't decide on atheism or theism, and they have no knowledge on god or atheism and they don't think about it, and they are atheist wether they know it or not, gotcha.

Until right this very moment, did you or did you not believe I have a purple labrador.
If you never even thought about the possibility, that doesn't change the fact you did not believe (Or, more worryingly, did.)

[Samuraikoku]

So you'r telling me babies, are atheists because,they can't decide on atheism or theism, and they have no knowledge on god or atheism and they don't think about it, and they are atheist wether they know it or not, gotcha.

They have no knowledge = Agnostic.

They have no belief = Atheist.

[Conscentia]

They don't have to know that such words exists in order to be atheists.

Atheism is a word describes a trait. Babies possess that trait. They are atheists, whether they know it or not.

So you'r telling me babies, are atheists because,they can't decide on atheism or theism, and they have no knowledge on god or atheism and they don't think about it, and they are atheist wether they know it or not, gotcha.

No, I'm saying that they are atheists because they do not believe in God.
Why they do not believe in God is irrelevant.

[Frisivisia]

I was raised as a Christian but Christianity's rejection of the Theory of Evolution led me to question all tenets of Christianity. As an engineer I'm trained to try and allow the evidence to objectively establish a conclusion. The more I studied Christianity and the more I learned about the history of Christianity the less tenable I found it.

Ultimately I was forced to reject Christianity but was unwilling to let go of my belief in a god. For a while I was a deist until I realized that was little more than wishful thinking. I then became a fence sitting "Agnostic" until I realized that an Agnostic is simply an Atheist that understands that he could be wrong because belief and knowledge are two different things. At that point I realized that I was in fact an Atheist and began using the term.

I'm what is known as a Weak Atheist. I'm willing to listen to evidence that will justify believing in a deity. As a matter of fact I would be very happy if a kind, benevolent all powerful deity did exist and was watching over us. Unfortunately I've never been presented any compelling evidence that such a deity exists. There is more evidence that a malevolent deity exists than that a benevolent one exists and that concerns me a little.

There is no such thing as an atheist who is 100% sure. I believe it's Dawkins that uses the 1-7 scale of belief in God to lack of belief, and then goes on to describe himself as a 6.9 atheist.

[The USOT]

They don't have to know that such words exists in order to be atheists.

Atheism is a word describes a trait. Babies possess that trait. They are atheists, whether they know it or not.

So you'r telling me babies, are atheists because,they can't decide on atheism or theism, and they have no knowledge on god or atheism and they don't think about it, and they are atheist wether they know it or not, gotcha.

ALMOST THERE!
Its more they are atheist DESPITE THEIR REASONS

The same way you dont have to know about africa to have been born in africa.
Or that you dont need to know you are a mammal or have any understanding of science to be a mammal.
We dont live in a universe where by mere thought we can change properties

[Tsuntion]

They don't have to know that such words exists in order to be atheists.

Atheism is a word describes a trait. Babies possess that trait. They are atheists, whether they know it or not.

So you'r telling me babies, are atheists because,they can't decide on atheism or theism, and they have no knowledge on god or atheism and they don't think about it, and they are atheist wether they know it or not, gotcha.

You've understood; good work!

[Vortropolis]

So you'r telling me babies, are atheists because,they can't decide on atheism or theism, and they have no knowledge on god or atheism and they don't think about it, and they are atheist wether they know it or not, gotcha.

They have no knowledge = Agnostic.

They have no belief = Atheist.

Agnostic would make more sense than atheist.

[Conscentia]

So you'r telling me babies, are atheists because,they can't decide on atheism or theism, and they have no knowledge on god or atheism and they don't think about it, and they are atheist wether they know it or not, gotcha.

They have no knowledge = Agnostic.
No, that's a reason for being an atheist.
They have no belief = Atheist.
You got this bit correct.

[NERVUN]

How any human can be an Atheist is beyond me. It's human nature to believe in some deity.

Not it isn't, don't use "Human Nature" as a buzzword, retard.

Don't flame people... Anvilonia.

[Divair]

They don't have to know that such words exists in order to be atheists.

Atheism is a word describes a trait. Babies possess that trait. They are atheists, whether they know it or not.

So you'r telling me babies, are atheists because,they can't decide on atheism or theism, and they have no knowledge on god or atheism and they don't think about it, and they are atheist wether they know it or not, gotcha.

Knowledge is irrelevant. That's like saying someone isn't intelligent until they know about intelligence. Utter nonsense.

[The USOT]

So you'r telling me babies, are atheists because,they can't decide on atheism or theism, and they have no knowledge on god or atheism and they don't think about it, and they are atheist wether they know it or not, gotcha.

You've understood; good work!

He almost got it. Although there was a contradiction in statements "are atheists because, they cant decide" and later "they are atheist wether they know it or not".

The former is not neccesarily true whilst the latter is entirely true.

[Divair]

They have no knowledge = Agnostic.

They have no belief = Atheist.

Agnostic would make more sense than atheist.

Those are two different scales.

[Ostroeuropa]

They have no knowledge = Agnostic.

They have no belief = Atheist.

Agnostic would make more sense than atheist.

Why?
They do not believe. = Atheist.
Agnostic is opposed to GNOSTIC.

A Gnostic Theist thinks they can prove god's existence.
A Gnostic Atheist thinks they can prove god's non-existence.
An Agnostic Atheist doesn't think they can prove it, but doesn't believe.
An Agnostic Theist doesn't think they can prove it, but does believe.

Babies DO NOT think they can disprove it, since they don't even know what "it" is.

[Stovokor]

I read the bible.

Pretty much this and went to 2 private christian schools and attended church quite often as a child, my extended family is also very religious. Eventually when what I was taught in school started contradicting what I was taught in church, I had to do some thinking, operatically the church and the bible hate thinking, so here I am.

[Samuraikoku]

They have no knowledge = Agnostic.
No, that's a reason for being an atheist.
They have no belief = Atheist.
You got this bit correct.

Agnosticism is separate from belief, as has been explained many times.

[Frisivisia]

They have no knowledge = Agnostic.

They have no belief = Atheist.

Agnostic would make more sense than atheist.

You can't have belief without knowledge. Therefore, because they lack knowledge, they also lack belief.