Obama Will Take Your Guns

[North Calaveras]

I joined the army, obviously I'm willing to put myself in harms way. It's not an internet tough guy statement it's my personal belief, of course I don't want to die but shit happens so please enough of this whole pointing the ITG finger cause it's a weak ass way to argue.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

Doesn't make it true.
On topic: Guns aren't necessarily bad, but people who think they need them are bad.

I don't think im Rambo lol but that is a humorous little spoiler. Anyways the ITG thing is fuckign retarded and using it against people is also retarded.

[The New Lowlands]

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

Doesn't make it true.
On topic: Guns aren't necessarily bad, but people who think they need them are bad.

I don't think im Rambo lol but that is a humorous little spoiler. Anyways the ITG thing is fuckign retarded and using it against people is also retarded.

It doesn't affect your case, but you were kind of fulfilling the stereotype.

[Spreewerke]

That won't destroy the cartel only slow them down, supply and demand it's quite simple, if guns are banned people are going to get them illegally and even worse for the pro-gun control crowd they will be unchecked and of any model/make the person wants, hell you would probably get even more fully automatic arms since people don't have to worry about regulations then.

That doesn't make any sense.
If you legalize drugs, the illegal market breaks down. Note how it worked for alcohol.
If guns are banned, yes, some people will aqcuire them illegally. They will also be much easier to catch, as import/export regulation is simplified considerably. In addition, I'm not advocating an immediate total ban.
Supply and demand are not the only factors in the economy. There aren't enough concentrated gun nuts, not even in the US, to start a significant illegal market.

If it didn't work for alcohol during the '30s nor drugs during the present, what makes you think that legalizing pot so cartels are "out of business" will do anything if you ban guns? They're cartels. They'll just, you know, exploit the new black market for guns.

I'm also glad that you're aware of the exact number of gun-owning folks in the United States and know exactly how they would react to such a ban that you are proposing. You're in Europe, right? Guess that means I was right about all the French not fighting back if I decided to stroll in with a rifle and a Stahlhelm!

[Wikkiwallana]

Yes, because they have conscription and more heavy gun regulation than the United States.

If you've been in the army,(that's most of the adult population) you get to keep your firearm.

But not your bullets.

[North Calaveras]

what part of " the cartel can get guns elsewhere" are we not understanding here?

What part of "The Cartel won't sell, and there wouldn't be enough demand, in addition, where from?" are you not understanding?

They are multi-billionare dollare organization that has global contacts, if they wanted to they could even set up shop and make their own guns and sell them. Supply and demand isn't high right now, but as soon as guns starting becoming more restricted or banned it's going to push people in that direction, the same thing happened with alcohol during prohibition.

[The New Lowlands]

Yes, because they have conscription and more heavy gun regulation than the United States.

If you've been in the army,(that's most of the adult population) you get to keep your firearm.

Yes, and you've also passed sanity checks and the training requirements to use the damn thing.

[Parti Ouvrier]

I joined the army, obviously I'm willing to put myself in harms way. It's not an internet tough guy statement it's my personal belief, of course I don't want to die but shit happens so please enough of this whole pointing the ITG finger cause it's a weak ass way to argue.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

Doesn't make it true.
On topic: Guns aren't necessarily bad, but people who think they need them are bad.

A rather sweeping statement.

[North Calaveras]

I don't think im Rambo lol but that is a humorous little spoiler. Anyways the ITG thing is fuckign retarded and using it against people is also retarded.

It doesn't affect your case, but you were kind of fulfilling the stereotype.

Dude enough, it's bullshit, saying you would rather die fighting is not being an internet tough guy, does running away make you an internet pussy now?

[The New Lowlands]

What part of "The Cartel won't sell, and there wouldn't be enough demand, in addition, where from?" are you not understanding?

They are multi-billionare dollare organization that has global contacts, if they wanted to they could even set up shop and make their own guns and sell them. Supply and demand isn't high right now, but as soon as guns starting becoming more restricted or banned it's going to push people in that direction, the same thing happened with alcohol during prohibition.

You can't start making guns from scratch; the infrastructure required to do so means you might as well paint your roof with a target and say "hey, illegal drugs here, please bomb this, U.S. Marines!" and the expense, oh god the expense.
Not everyone wants a gun. Most people stop buying things if they are made illegal. Alcohol is an exception, because who doesn't enjoy a cold one?
(except me, I don't.)

[Parti Ouvrier]

If you've been in the army,(that's most of the adult population) you get to keep your firearm.

Yes, and you've also passed sanity checks and the training requirements to use the damn thing.

Of course, I don't have a problem with that, but you give the impression you want guns banned.

[The New Lowlands]

It doesn't affect your case, but you were kind of fulfilling the stereotype.

Dude enough, it's bullshit, saying you would rather die fighting is not being an internet tough guy, does running away make you an internet pussy now?

No, it makes you somewhat sensible.
If people with guns are coming your way, even if you have a gun, generally the best thing to do is not to engage them.

[Spreewerke]

They are multi-billionare dollare organization that has global contacts, if they wanted to they could even set up shop and make their own guns and sell them. Supply and demand isn't high right now, but as soon as guns starting becoming more restricted or banned it's going to push people in that direction, the same thing happened with alcohol during prohibition.

You can't start making guns from scratch; the infrastructure required to do so means you might as well paint your roof with a target and say "hey, illegal drugs here, please bomb this, U.S. Marines!" and the expense, oh god the expense.
Not everyone wants a gun. Most people stop buying things if they are made illegal. Alcohol is an exception, because who doesn't enjoy a cold one?
(except me, I don't.)

Since when are garages high-priority targets?

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulle ... mi-warning!

[Spreewerke]

They are multi-billionare dollare organization that has global contacts, if they wanted to they could even set up shop and make their own guns and sell them. Supply and demand isn't high right now, but as soon as guns starting becoming more restricted or banned it's going to push people in that direction, the same thing happened with alcohol during prohibition.

You can't start making guns from scratch; the infrastructure required to do so means you might as well paint your roof with a target and say "hey, illegal drugs here, please bomb this, U.S. Marines!" and the expense, oh god the expense.
Not everyone wants a gun. Most people stop buying things if they are made illegal. Alcohol is an exception, because who doesn't enjoy a cold one?
(except me, I don't.)

Who doesn't enjoy a good range session? Your arguments are kind of contradicting.

[The New Lowlands]

Yes, and you've also passed sanity checks and the training requirements to use the damn thing.

Of course, I don't have a problem with that, but you give the impression you want guns banned.

Well, I do. But I realize that it's unrealistic and, in addition, might cause more problems than it would remove in the case of the United States, hence I don't propose that guns are banned in the 'States, at least not with a single piece of legislation.

[North Calaveras]

They are multi-billionare dollare organization that has global contacts, if they wanted to they could even set up shop and make their own guns and sell them. Supply and demand isn't high right now, but as soon as guns starting becoming more restricted or banned it's going to push people in that direction, the same thing happened with alcohol during prohibition.

You can't start making guns from scratch; the infrastructure required to do so means you might as well paint your roof with a target and say "hey, illegal drugs here, please bomb this, U.S. Marines!" and the expense, oh god the expense.
Not everyone wants a gun. Most people stop buying things if they are made illegal. Alcohol is an exception, because who doesn't enjoy a cold one?
(except me, I don't.)

No they don't they buy them from a illegal party like they always have with almost everything, they don't just go away. There an illegal group, they can hide where they make the guns, it wouldn't take much for them to churn out AKM knockoffs and sell them.

[The New Lowlands]

You can't start making guns from scratch; the infrastructure required to do so means you might as well paint your roof with a target and say "hey, illegal drugs here, please bomb this, U.S. Marines!" and the expense, oh god the expense.
Not everyone wants a gun. Most people stop buying things if they are made illegal. Alcohol is an exception, because who doesn't enjoy a cold one?
(except me, I don't.)

No they don't they buy them from a illegal party like they always have with almost everything, they don't just go away. There an illegal group, they can hide where they make the guns, it wouldn't take much for them to churn out AKM knockoffs and sell them.

You don't really get what I'm trying to say, do you?

[The New Lowlands]

You can't start making guns from scratch; the infrastructure required to do so means you might as well paint your roof with a target and say "hey, illegal drugs here, please bomb this, U.S. Marines!" and the expense, oh god the expense.
Not everyone wants a gun. Most people stop buying things if they are made illegal. Alcohol is an exception, because who doesn't enjoy a cold one?
(except me, I don't.)

Who doesn't enjoy a good range session? Your arguments are kind of contradicting.

Far from everyone enjoys a good range session. I think you'll find that the idea of it being common is limited to the US, and even there it's unrealistic.

[North Calaveras]

No they don't they buy them from a illegal party like they always have with almost everything, they don't just go away. There an illegal group, they can hide where they make the guns, it wouldn't take much for them to churn out AKM knockoffs and sell them.

You don't really get what I'm trying to say, do you?

Please enlighten me with a simple straight to the point response.

[Grave_n_idle]

What part of "The Cartel won't sell, and there wouldn't be enough demand, in addition, where from?" are you not understanding?

They are multi-billionare dollare organization that has global contacts...

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If the US stopped making guns, the cartel imports would dry up - because the cartel imports are US exports.

[North Calaveras]

Dude enough, it's bullshit, saying you would rather die fighting is not being an internet tough guy, does running away make you an internet pussy now?

No, it makes you somewhat sensible.
If people with guns are coming your way, even if you have a gun, generally the best thing to do is not to engage them.

If you want to lose then sure, you can't win a war by always running.

peace

[Spreewerke]

Who doesn't enjoy a good range session? Your arguments are kind of contradicting.

Far from everyone enjoys a good range session. I think you'll find that the idea of it being common is limited to the US, and even there it's unrealistic.

Guess that explains why Switzerland provides the ammunition for its nationwide shoots. They hate going to the range. It all makes perfect sense.

[The New Lowlands]

You can't start making guns from scratch; the infrastructure required to do so means you might as well paint your roof with a target and say "hey, illegal drugs here, please bomb this, U.S. Marines!" and the expense, oh god the expense.
Not everyone wants a gun. Most people stop buying things if they are made illegal. Alcohol is an exception, because who doesn't enjoy a cold one?
(except me, I don't.)

Since when are garages high-priority targets?

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulle ... mi-warning!

Good job.
Now mass produce it, get it across the (now more heavily-guarded) border, (thank goodness for all that tax money from the newly-legalized drugs, eh?) find a buyer, find where the buyer is, and try to make a profit, then see if the buyer can go on to commit 27 murders, oh wait he can't, he got caught on a street corner on his way to school by the cops called by a civilian while trying to hide the damn thing.

[Saiwania]

It seems to be working fine for Italy, Spain, France, Portugal, the Netherlands, etc...

See? This is proof that American liberals want the US to be more like western Europe, they are always pointing to the various nations of that continent as an example of a paradise of liberal policy. They always opine, why can't America be as sophisticated as them?

[The New Lowlands]

Far from everyone enjoys a good range session. I think you'll find that the idea of it being common is limited to the US, and even there it's unrealistic.

Guess that explains why Switzerland provides the ammunition for its nationwide shoots. They hate going to the range. It all makes perfect sense.

Because Switzerland doesn't have regular checks on their gun-licenses, or sanity checks for their conscripts, or anything like that, nope.

[The New Lowlands]

It seems to be working fine for Italy, Spain, France, Portugal, the Netherlands, etc...

See? This is proof that American liberals want the US to be more like western Europe, they are always pointing to the various nations of that continent as an example of a paradise of liberal policy. They always opine, why can't America be as sophisticated as them?

I'm Dutch, so I'll thank you for not calling me an American liberal.