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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:59 pm

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If it's a size you can get ti at a gun show.

I mean, could you buy it on the hunting grounds itself?


On the what? Hunting Ground's? Spree?
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Postby Kistan » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:01 pm

Cameroi wrote:if you seriously imagine you need a fully automatic ak 47 to eat bambi, might i suggest you work on improving your ability to aim?

home/personal defense, bud. if the feds take guns, the only people who have them will be... surprise! the criminals! and now we can't defend ourselves while the police take minutes to arrive! you could easily be dead in one minute! you may say: "well, what if you have a different weapon? a knife, a brick?" well, guess what! you're the guy that brought the knife to the gunfight! sucks to be you!

to the Obama administration, an "automatic weapon" is anything with a clip. revolvers? okay. for now. but they ask the populace for their opinion, which is unfair. for the average joe, an "automatic weapon" is an assault rifle or machine gun. they will use that to cheat their way into getting our defenses away from us.

with ONE exeption, every single mass murder attack with over 3 slain since 1950(i believe, one of the years around that time) has been in a 'gun free' zone, because the criminals know that their victims won't have guns to fight back with.
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Postby Spreewerke » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:01 pm

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If it's a size you can get ti at a gun show.

I mean, could you buy it on the hunting grounds itself?


"Hunting grounds" are not fields with sheds at one end. You can just go to a gun store or online and order your ammunition. Then you just take it with you along with your rifle to the hunting grounds (be they public or private) and carry on with your hunting. Missouri's magazine limit of 10 rounds is, to my understanding, caused by the popularity of Lee-Enfields in our state after World War II. As you may or may not be aware, their detachable magazine holds ten rounds, so the state made sure the laws allowed the use of those fine rifles. They're still relatively cheap: we got one in at the store a few weeks ago and we had it set at sub-$300.00 last I knew.

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Postby Agymnum » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:01 pm

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Vareiln wrote:With shotguns, it really does depend on the ammunition you use.


If it can fit into the shell it will probably fire it.


I remember my friends were having nerdgasms and demanded my grandpa help them make "coin-shot" using quarters after they played Fallout: New Vegas. I never got around to asking them if it worked, but if what you say is true then I would've liked to see them fire it off.
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Postby British Prussia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:01 pm

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British Prussia wrote:Erm, you guys in America have .240 / .300 inch calibre rifles right? My rifle's Brit...


Yes. Privi Partizan imports soft-pointed .303 Enfield cartridges, I believe. One of the deputies of my college town is an Enfield collector, so we always keep our shelves stocked with at least four boxes of .303 Enfield ammunition.

.303 is a bit big, I don't have an Enfield. Just those 2 sizes. I prefer to get them at the place where you hunt. Usually the guy who owns the grounds will sell bullets. I prefer to buy there than carry them around. I just wanted to know if .240/.300 are relatively easy to get in the US.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:02 pm

Cameroi wrote:good for him. and precisely what were you planning on doing with these guns it is falsely proclaimed the current u.s president has any slightest interest in "taking"?

if you seriously imagine you need a fully automatic ak 47 to eat bambi, might i suggest you work on improving your ability to aim?


Where did you find a Full Auto AK-47? I'm sure Spree may want to have it.
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Postby Vareiln » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:02 pm

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Vareiln wrote:With shotguns, it really does depend on the ammunition you use.


If it can fit into the shell it will probably fire it.

Indeed. :lol2:

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Postby Agymnum » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:02 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Cameroi wrote:good for him. and precisely what were you planning on doing with these guns it is falsely proclaimed the current u.s president has any slightest interest in "taking"?

if you seriously imagine you need a fully automatic ak 47 to eat bambi, might i suggest you work on improving your ability to aim?


Where did you find a Full Auto AK-47? I'm sure Spree may want to have it.


My grandpa would pay double whatever Spree's willing to offer. Just saying.

Although at his age, I doubt he'd have any good use for it.
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Postby Spreewerke » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:03 pm

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Yes Im Biop wrote:
If it can fit into the shell it will probably fire it.


I remember my friends were having nerdgasms and demanded my grandpa help them make "coin-shot" using quarters after they played Fallout: New Vegas. I never got around to asking them if it worked, but if what you say is true then I would've liked to see them fire it off.



Coin-shot for a shotgun is not quarters: dimes are what fit into a 12 Gauge shell. I have heard of people drilling through the middle of their "dime shot" projectiles and running piano wire through them. There is also a YouTube video showing a guy shoot random objects out of 12 Gauge shells, including M&Ms.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:03 pm

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If it can fit into the shell it will probably fire it.


I remember my friends were having nerdgasms and demanded my grandpa help them make "coin-shot" using quarters after they played Fallout: New Vegas. I never got around to asking them if it worked, but if what you say is true then I would've liked to see them fire it off.


I think those work, though Quarter's seem a little to prefect of a fit for a 12 gague
Edit: Aw... Piano Wire? Ouch. How did the M&M's work out?
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Postby Agymnum » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:03 pm

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I remember my friends were having nerdgasms and demanded my grandpa help them make "coin-shot" using quarters after they played Fallout: New Vegas. I never got around to asking them if it worked, but if what you say is true then I would've liked to see them fire it off.



Coin-shot for a shotgun is not quarters: dimes are what fit into a 12 Gauge shell. I have heard of people drilling through the middle of their "dime shot" projectiles and running piano wire through them. There is also a YouTube video showing a guy shoot random objects out of 12 Gauge shells, including M&Ms.


What a waste of perfectly good chocolate.

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
I remember my friends were having nerdgasms and demanded my grandpa help them make "coin-shot" using quarters after they played Fallout: New Vegas. I never got around to asking them if it worked, but if what you say is true then I would've liked to see them fire it off.


I think those work, though Quarter's seem a little to prefect of a fit for a 12 gague


I don't remember exactly what they wanted to use. I remember them saying quarters because they thought dimes would be too light - wouldn't do enough damage to our target dummies. I'm not sure if they tried shaving the quarters down to make them fit, though.
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Postby Spreewerke » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:05 pm

British Prussia wrote:
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Yes. Privi Partizan imports soft-pointed .303 Enfield cartridges, I believe. One of the deputies of my college town is an Enfield collector, so we always keep our shelves stocked with at least four boxes of .303 Enfield ammunition.

.303 is a bit big, I don't have an Enfield. Just those 2 sizes. I prefer to get them at the place where you hunt. Usually the guy who owns the grounds will sell bullets. I prefer to buy there than carry them around. I just wanted to know if .240/.300 are relatively easy to get in the US.



Uh, which .300? My uncle uses .300 Winchester Magnum, but that is a rather massive cartridge. As for .240, I think the closest thing that's mainstream in the states is the .243 cartridge, which will still be quite different and not interchangeable.

I literally hunt in my backyard: 40 acres of timber behind it, and another 99 acres of timber about a mile away that we own.

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Postby Rupture Farms co » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:05 pm

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Rupture Farms co wrote:I live in Temecula, South Cal. Own eight guns. Three of them are "heavy assault weapons" And I for one have never meet a fear mongerer. In fact, I find more pro-control fear mongers then anything else.


Eh, that's why I'm in a tight spot.

I'm personally pro-control, but I'm not anti-gun. Thus, I get alienated a lot because the pro-gun people scream at me for not wanting true freedom while the anti-gun people scream at me for "compromising safety" or some crap like that.

It's why I never vote on gun laws. Too much headache, doesn't affect me personally. So long as they don't ban bladed weapons, I'm fine.

Another problem is that shooting guns is fun. So is knife throwing. So should we ban both? Should be punish the hundred million gun owners because of the folly of one person? A person raised on a life of MTV, Hollywood films, violent video games, medicine and poor parenting. Those are the problems that caused this as opposed to just guns. I'm around guns alot and we never kill nobody. What happens is that people are not taught the sanctity of human life or when parents don't spend enough time with they're kids.

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Postby Agymnum » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:06 pm

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Eh, that's why I'm in a tight spot.

I'm personally pro-control, but I'm not anti-gun. Thus, I get alienated a lot because the pro-gun people scream at me for not wanting true freedom while the anti-gun people scream at me for "compromising safety" or some crap like that.

It's why I never vote on gun laws. Too much headache, doesn't affect me personally. So long as they don't ban bladed weapons, I'm fine.

Another problem is that shooting guns is fun. So is knife throwing. So should we ban both? Should be punish the hundred million gun owners because of the folly of one person? A person raised on a life of MTV, Hollywood films, violent video games, medicine and poor parenting. Those are the problems that caused this as opposed to just guns. I'm around guns alot and we never kill nobody. What happens is that people are not taught the sanctity of human life or when parents don't spend enough time with they're kids.


Don't be blaming my violent video games! How else am I supposed to shoot someone's head off with no repercussions? Do it in real life? :roll:
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Postby Allied states of Gregland » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:07 pm

Fine, keep your guns. It's not my fault when your 7 year olds head is blown off.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:08 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:If your argument is that you need firearms to be legal so that you have an effective non-obsolete answer to the police and military, your platform is already a century out of date.


My dream gun is already currently illegal for most people to own. The M1921 Thompson Submachine gun with 100 round drum magazine in .45ACP- Yes it is antiquated, but I love the aesthetic design, firing rate, and history behind it.

Just what firearms would you allow civilians to own, if not for banning all guns?
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Postby AntiSwagLand » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:08 pm

Rupture Farms co wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
Eh, that's why I'm in a tight spot.

I'm personally pro-control, but I'm not anti-gun. Thus, I get alienated a lot because the pro-gun people scream at me for not wanting true freedom while the anti-gun people scream at me for "compromising safety" or some crap like that.

It's why I never vote on gun laws. Too much headache, doesn't affect me personally. So long as they don't ban bladed weapons, I'm fine.

Another problem is that shooting guns is fun. So is knife throwing. So should we ban both? Should be punish the hundred million gun owners because of the folly of one person? A person raised on a life of MTV, Hollywood films, violent video games, medicine and poor parenting. Those are the problems that caused this as opposed to just guns. I'm around guns alot and we never kill nobody. What happens is that people are not taught the sanctity of human life or when parents don't spend enough time with they're kids.


You could pass a law stating that these "fun" weapons may only be owned by gun ranges and you just rent it when you get there

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Postby North Calaveras » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:08 pm

Seriously though all this gun talk is horshit when you look at how many law-abiding gun owners there are, what is it like 40 million or something?
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Postby Agymnum » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:08 pm

Allied states of Gregland wrote:Fine, keep your guns. It's not my fault when your 7 year olds head is blown off.


Well, anyone who knows how to handle a gun knows how to store one. You keep it high-up and locked away from your kid.

Anyone who fails to do that is a fucking moron.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:08 pm

Allied states of Gregland wrote:Fine, keep your guns. It's not my fault when your 7 year olds head is blown off.


This argument does not work for those with 1 month-6 years and 8 to 99 year old kid's, Nor for those with no kids.
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Postby Cronatian » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:08 pm

Well, what if mass confiscation actually happened? I mean, most rational people go on to say, "Well, I doubt it could ever happen...". Yeah, thats pretty true. Execpt the "never" part. Now I agree its close to or near impossible, but don't treat it like it could never ever, ever, ever happen. Why? Because anything can happen, and politics can go shit anywhere, and pretty fast too. But, its more likely they'll just attempt to tax and regulate ammunition if they honestly felt like disarming us, but people often store surplus combloc ammunition. I store loads and loads of 5.45 surplus? Why? I have no idea. Paranoia? I don't really care, I just feel the need to have a couple thousand locked and sealed away in my...wait, nevermind. But the point is, Obamination will more than likely never get around to do anything but mouth away at the issue of gun control. Why? Because the pro-gun support has grown exponentially since the 90's, back before the 2A was deemed an individual right. But, eh, don't count on it. Anything can happen, and shit happens fast. That is why I invest in health insurance. Wait, what does that have to do with it? Dammit, nevermind. I rant while drunk.

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Postby North Calaveras » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:08 pm

Allied states of Gregland wrote:Fine, keep your guns. It's not my fault when your 7 year olds head is blown off.


Nope, it's whoever pulled the triggers fault, not the gun itself
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Postby Agymnum » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:09 pm

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Rupture Farms co wrote:Another problem is that shooting guns is fun. So is knife throwing. So should we ban both? Should be punish the hundred million gun owners because of the folly of one person? A person raised on a life of MTV, Hollywood films, violent video games, medicine and poor parenting. Those are the problems that caused this as opposed to just guns. I'm around guns alot and we never kill nobody. What happens is that people are not taught the sanctity of human life or when parents don't spend enough time with they're kids.


You could pass a law stating that these "fun" weapons may only be owned by gun ranges and you just rent it when you get there


I'd be for that. Would appease everyone.

You'd need laws for stricter security on gun-ranges, though, in-case anyone decides that it would be a wise idea to try and take the gun off the range.
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Postby Tmutarakhan » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:09 pm

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Allied states of Gregland wrote:Fine, keep your guns. It's not my fault when your 7 year olds head is blown off.


Well, anyone who knows how to handle a gun knows how to store one. You keep it high-up and locked away from your kid.

Anyone who fails to do that is a fucking moron.

We would like to live in a country where fucking morons cannot easily obtain guns.
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Postby Spreewerke » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:09 pm

Allied states of Gregland wrote:Fine, keep your guns. It's not my fault when your 7 year olds head is blown off.


I would just like to take this time to point out that, as a previously-sevenyear-old-individual who spent the majority of my summers shooting a .22LR in the backyard, my head is, in fact, completely intact.

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