Obama Will Take Your Guns

[Yes Im Biop]

If gun ownership was banned, I honestly wouldn't mind. But to appease all the gun nuts out there I'd at least hope Obama would keep low caliber rifles and semi-automatic pistols legal. Beyond that, you definitely don't need automatics or high-powered rifles (i.e. AKs, M-16s, etc) to do simple hunting or for home defense.

No one want's a M16, And those use 5.56mm Which is the Military version of a .223. The AK is a good hunting rifle because it uses basically a .308.

High powered rifles start at I believe anything firing a Supersonic load right spree?

[Rupture Farms co]

If gun ownership was banned, I honestly wouldn't mind. But to appease all the gun nuts out there I'd at least hope Obama would keep low caliber rifles and semi-automatic pistols legal. Beyond that, you definitely don't need automatics or high-powered rifles (i.e. AKs, M-16s, etc) to do simple hunting or for home defense.

I hunt with my Mosin Nagant 7.62 by 54Rmm rifle myself, very highpowered weapon there. Tear a huge hole in the chest of a human being. I mean good luck hunting anything bigger then quail with a .22.

[The UK in Exile]

If you were a cartel leader, worth millions of dollars, with your own private air fleet of, say, retired DC-3s, what would you rather do?

• Pay some dude to sneak himself into the United States, find a straw purchaser, pay said purchaser ~$750.00 for a semi-automatic AK, attempt to smuggle said AK back into Mexico, use semi-automatic AK to shoot at other gang members.

OR

• Tell pilot of one of your planes to fly to Somalia, trade several kilograms of cocaine for an entire plane full of fully-automatic AKs, fly back to Mexico, and use said full-autos to shoot at other gang members.

the top one, because when it goes wrong (and lets face it, murphy's law) you're out £750.

when option two goes wrong, you're out a couple of 100,000 plus a fucking plane. not to mention somalia is the other side of africa from america.

[Ifreann]

What? Can someone explain to me what the hell this is?

The mad ramblings of a peculiar person.

[Yes Im Biop]

Wanna Explain that little bit of fail logic?

Well less guns = less people who can potentially kill with guns.

It's a bit of simply math, really.

If you're for gun-ownership, I don't mind. I just hope you're willing to give your life for all those kids who got senselessly wasted at Columbine, Virginia Tech, and that recent shooting in Connecticut.

Except that people who are fucked up enough to do those don't give 2 shit's about Law's perhaps?

[Vareiln]

Wanna Explain that little bit of fail logic?

Well less guns = less people who can potentially kill with guns.

It's a bit of simply math, really.

If you're for gun-ownership, I don't mind. I just hope you're willing to give your life for all those kids who got senselessly wasted at Columbine, Virginia Tech, and that recent shooting in Connecticut.

If you're for driving, I hope you're willing to give your organs for all those people who are senselessly killed in drunk driving accidents.

[Sheariliik]

You make rational gun owners look bad. When you spew shit like this it only fuels lie-mongers like the Brady Campaign and MSNBC. Please stop.

I don't even think hes being serious, sounds like one of those guys who likes to get everyone pissed by making a ridiculous thread.

^this

[Vareiln]

If gun ownership was banned, I honestly wouldn't mind. But to appease all the gun nuts out there I'd at least hope Obama would keep low caliber rifles and semi-automatic pistols legal. Beyond that, you definitely don't need automatics or high-powered rifles (i.e. AKs, M-16s, etc) to do simple hunting or for home defense.

I hunt with my Mosin Nagant 7.62 by 54Rmm rifle myself, very highpowered weapon there. Tear a huge hole in the chest of a human being. I mean good luck hunting anything bigger then quail with a .22.

Quail? Pffft. Use a 20 gauge shotgun.

[AntiSwagLand]

Just saying, when all the gun owners go insane and start screaming "don't touch my gun", it just makes that whole group look immature. Second, is it THAT much of a need to own a gun? It's only a piece of metal held together with some bolts, not anything particularly holy or rare. Third, Obama's not taking your guns, calm down. This has probably been said for every other president. I got news for you all, NOTHING happened. So just sit back, have a bud, and enjoy the rest of the day

[Yes Im Biop]

Just saying, when all the gun owners go insane and start screaming "don't touch my gun", it just makes that whole group look immature. Second, is it THAT much of a need to own a gun? It's only a piece of metal held together with some bolts, not anything particularly holy or rare. Third, Obama's not taking your guns, calm down. This has probably been said for every other president. I got news for you all, NOTHING happened. So just sit back, have a bud, and enjoy the rest of the day

It's not Obama were worried about, It's the Moron's in congress who can pass law's like that.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Not killing anyone

What purpose does it serve to have them out where someone can go break into schools and kill everyone there?

in Japan, for example, guns are completely outlawed, yet only 11 homicides were committed in 2008 because of gun violence.

We lost more twice that many in a day.

Except you would be talking about banning a massive amount of weapons, from this to this to this and so much more.
And how would banning those change a thing when the shooter could have done the exact same thing with this or this?

Do you do realize that the second link in your post is an airsoft pistol?

[British Prussia]

Just saying, when all the gun owners go insane and start screaming "don't touch my gun", it just makes that whole group look immature. Second, is it THAT much of a need to own a gun? It's only a piece of metal held together with some bolts, not anything particularly holy or rare. Third, Obama's not taking your guns, calm down. This has probably been said for every other president. I got news for you all, NOTHING happened. So just sit back, have a bud, and enjoy the rest of the day

How would you feel if Obama came along and started to chop people's dicks off? Because that's how I feel! Nvm. I'll just have to do this the hard way... Hide my gun...

[Agymnum]

Just saying, when all the gun owners go insane and start screaming "don't touch my gun", it just makes that whole group look immature. Second, is it THAT much of a need to own a gun? It's only a piece of metal held together with some bolts, not anything particularly holy or rare. Third, Obama's not taking your guns, calm down. This has probably been said for every other president. I got news for you all, NOTHING happened. So just sit back, have a bud, and enjoy the rest of the day

Yeah, I used to be pro-gun, and then I got disgusted with how insane the NRA became with its fear-mongering "X PRESIDENT WILL TAKE OUR GUNS! TYRANNY!" tactics. Now I'm pro-gun control but anti-gun bans just because I'd hate to see how the NRA would start foaming at the mouth at even the mention of a gun ban.

[Grave_n_idle]

Even if there was a full on ban/massive restriction in effect you could always get your guns south of the border(i know I would) I brought this up earlier because it's a very valid tactic. I would go straight to the cartel to get my goods and when guns are banned every criminal, every person who wants a gun to defend themselves, every killer, regardless of what there intents are will be lining up to buy from them.

You know you're onto a loser when you set your moral platform up such that you align with 'killers'.

[Saiwania]

This I find hard to believe. Based on what you've already written - if it were proved 100% that guns caused increased incidence of violence, and that banning them would reduce lethal violence to a tiny fraction of it's current level - (I believe, based on your already stated opinions) - that you'd still be arguing for the right to keep and bear arms.

I'm far less likely to agree to any gun control schemes if it impedes my ability to purchase the firearms that I want by too much. The peril is that agreeing to oblige by one form of restrictions will give way to having to comply with further restrictions until there is no longer any point in trying to only have legal firearms because they are too ineffective or obsolete compared to what the police and military will have at their disposal.

[Vareiln]

Just saying, when all the gun owners go insane and start screaming "don't touch my gun", it just makes that whole group look immature. Second, is it THAT much of a need to own a gun? It's only a piece of metal held together with some bolts, not anything particularly holy or rare. Third, Obama's not taking your guns, calm down. This has probably been said for every other president. I got news for you all, NOTHING happened. So just sit back, have a bud, and enjoy the rest of the day

This is funny. Very very funny, especially since gun owners have a legitimate reason to be worried once many people start talking about banning many common types of guns.

[North Calaveras]

Just saying, when all the gun owners go insane and start screaming "don't touch my gun", it just makes that whole group look immature. Second, is it THAT much of a need to own a gun? It's only a piece of metal held together with some bolts, not anything particularly holy or rare. Third, Obama's not taking your guns, calm down. This has probably been said for every other president. I got news for you all, NOTHING happened. So just sit back, have a bud, and enjoy the rest of the day

No he dosn't want to take them away, but Democrats are wanting to grind away at it with more regulations and taxes, here in california it FUCKING SUCKS.

You dont tell people what they do and don't need, I will buy/steal a weapon to protect my family and loved ones because I know no matter how many laws are made there are going to be assholes that are also armed and there is no law going to stop them.

[AntiSwagLand]

Just saying, when all the gun owners go insane and start screaming "don't touch my gun", it just makes that whole group look immature. Second, is it THAT much of a need to own a gun? It's only a piece of metal held together with some bolts, not anything particularly holy or rare. Third, Obama's not taking your guns, calm down. This has probably been said for every other president. I got news for you all, NOTHING happened. So just sit back, have a bud, and enjoy the rest of the day

How would you feel if Obama came along and started to chop people's dicks off? Because that's how I feel! Nvm. I'll just have to do this the hard way... Hide my gun...

This makes it sound like you own a gun to make up for the size of something that really matters

[Yes Im Biop]

Except you would be talking about banning a massive amount of weapons, from this to this to this and so much more.
And how would banning those change a thing when the shooter could have done the exact same thing with this or this?

Do you do realize that the second link in your post is an airsoft pistol?

I knew something wasn't quite right with that gun.

[Spreewerke]

If gun ownership was banned, I honestly wouldn't mind. But to appease all the gun nuts out there I'd at least hope Obama would keep low caliber rifles and semi-automatic pistols legal. Beyond that, you definitely don't need automatics or high-powered rifles (i.e. AKs, M-16s, etc) to do simple hunting or for home defense.

No one want's a M16, And those use 5.56mm Which is the Military version of a .223. The AK is a good hunting rifle because it uses basically a .308.

High powered rifles start at I believe anything firing a Supersonic load right spree?

All firearms outside of handguns in .45ACP fire at supersonic speeds. "High powered rifles" are about as technical as "assault weapons."

There are differences between intermediate cartridges (as used in the AR-15, AKs, .30-30s, Mini-14s, etc.) and "full-size" cartridges used in rifles such as the AR-10, M91/30, M1A, and about 95% of the firearms used for anything the size of whitetail deer or larger.

[Vareiln]

Just saying, when all the gun owners go insane and start screaming "don't touch my gun", it just makes that whole group look immature. Second, is it THAT much of a need to own a gun? It's only a piece of metal held together with some bolts, not anything particularly holy or rare. Third, Obama's not taking your guns, calm down. This has probably been said for every other president. I got news for you all, NOTHING happened. So just sit back, have a bud, and enjoy the rest of the day

Yeah, I used to be pro-gun, and then I got disgusted with how insane the NRA became with its fear-mongering "X PRESIDENT WILL TAKE OUR GUNS! TYRANNY!" tactics. Now I'm pro-gun control but anti-gun bans just because I'd hate to see how the NRA would start foaming at the mouth at even the mention of a gun ban.

I do agree with you, as I don't like the NRA, but I find the current regulations on the types of guns fine. What I would like to see are more regulations on who and how you can own a gun.

[Rupture Farms co]

Just saying, when all the gun owners go insane and start screaming "don't touch my gun", it just makes that whole group look immature. Second, is it THAT much of a need to own a gun? It's only a piece of metal held together with some bolts, not anything particularly holy or rare. Third, Obama's not taking your guns, calm down. This has probably been said for every other president. I got news for you all, NOTHING happened. So just sit back, have a bud, and enjoy the rest of the day

The same thing the Germans did... WITH HITLER!!!!

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[North Calaveras]

Even if there was a full on ban/massive restriction in effect you could always get your guns south of the border(i know I would) I brought this up earlier because it's a very valid tactic. I would go straight to the cartel to get my goods and when guns are banned every criminal, every person who wants a gun to defend themselves, every killer, regardless of what there intents are will be lining up to buy from them.

You know you're onto a loser when you set your moral platform up such that you align with 'killers'.

That wasn't the message, the message is that if someone, regardless of beliefs, wants a gun they will be able to get ahold of one.

[Agymnum]

Just saying, when all the gun owners go insane and start screaming "don't touch my gun", it just makes that whole group look immature. Second, is it THAT much of a need to own a gun? It's only a piece of metal held together with some bolts, not anything particularly holy or rare. Third, Obama's not taking your guns, calm down. This has probably been said for every other president. I got news for you all, NOTHING happened. So just sit back, have a bud, and enjoy the rest of the day

No he dosn't want to take them away, but Democrats are wanting to grind away at it with more regulations and taxes, here in california it FUCKING SUCKS.

You dont tell people what they do and don't need, I will buy/steal a weapon to protect my family and loved ones because I know no matter how many laws are made there are going to be assholes that are also armed and there is no law going to stop them.

Jesus, sometimes I'm afraid of gun owners. Really afraid.

Makes me a bit nervous that the only thing I own in my house is a machete. I'd get blown to bits by a decently-armed criminal. But, eh, the police is pretty good where I live so I see no need for guns.

[Vareiln]

Except you would be talking about banning a massive amount of weapons, from this to this to this and so much more.
And how would banning those change a thing when the shooter could have done the exact same thing with this or this?

Do you do realize that the second link in your post is an airsoft pistol?

Shit... Didn't realize.