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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:09 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Gauthier wrote:If you need 30 round magazines to hunt deer, you're pretty much incompetent as a hunter.


Some of us are collectors and like to shoot at the range on occasion. It is not only hunters.


In which case introduce legislation to keep guns at ranges and only at ranges.
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:13 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Some of us are collectors and like to shoot at the range on occasion. It is not only hunters.


In which case introduce legislation to keep guns at ranges and only at ranges.

What if you want go to a different range or have a place to shoot it at your own home?
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:14 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
In which case introduce legislation to keep guns at ranges and only at ranges.

What if you want go to a different range or have a place to shoot it at your own home?


Tough shit.

Or split your guns between ranges, or develop a secure transfer system between ranges.
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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:15 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
In which case introduce legislation to keep guns at ranges and only at ranges.

What if you want go to a different range or have a place to shoot it at your own home?


I'd personally suggest keeping weapons in a local 'armoury', and signing them out before using them for a pre-specified period of time.
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:16 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
The Corparation wrote:What if you want go to a different range or have a place to shoot it at your own home?


Tough shit.

Or split your guns between ranges, or develop a secure transfer system between ranges.

And if you want to have guns mounted in your home for display as a collector?
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:19 pm

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Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Tough shit.

Or split your guns between ranges, or develop a secure transfer system between ranges.

And if you want to have guns mounted in your home for display as a collector?


Have them deactivated, or whatever the term is.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:21 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:Have them deactivated, or whatever the term is.


You do not believe that civilians should be able to own any effective firearms and to that I say tough shit. I'm not going to relinquish any that I manage to acquire.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:22 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
The Corparation wrote:And if you want to have guns mounted in your home for display as a collector?


Have them deactivated, or whatever the term is.

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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:24 pm

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Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:Have them deactivated, or whatever the term is.


You do not believe that civilians should be able to own any effective firearms and to that I say tough shit. I'm not going to relinquish any that I manage to acquire.


I'll say that when I acquire my nuclear bomb. I'll tell Kim Jong-Un too.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:26 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:Have them deactivated, or whatever the term is.


You do not believe that civilians should be able to own any effective firearms and to that I say tough shit. I'm not going to relinquish any that I manage to acquire.


Not even if the Second Amendment somehow was amended - and it would be illegal for you to keep them?
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:32 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:Not even if the Second Amendment somehow was amended - and it would be illegal for you to keep them?


I think at that point, I wouldn't have any loyalty to the US government and would have no qualms about committing treason. There comes a point where you think "enough is enough" and decide to either rebel against or conform to the status quo of how things are.
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:41 pm

Priory Academy USSR wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
You do not believe that civilians should be able to own any effective firearms and to that I say tough shit. I'm not going to relinquish any that I manage to acquire.


I'll say that when I acquire my nuclear bomb. I'll tell Kim Jong-Un too.

I actually have no issue with a private collector owning a nuclear weapon. If they were leave you'd need shitloads of background checks and licensing to get a hold of one not to mention the cost of the weapon itself. Throw in the delivery system and you sure as hell aren't going to fire it off.
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Postby Venutia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:54 pm

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Postby Bug Out » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:52 pm

Tyrants wrote:
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So what's wrong with a former soldier having weapons?

Nothing, so long as those guns are kept safe and away from any mass-murderers.





Nothing, so long as those guns are kept safe and away from any mass-murderers.[/quote][/quote]

That worked really well at Ft Hood, Huh. If a nut wants to kill, he'll find a way. Most "mass murderers" weren't the day before.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:53 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:Not even if the Second Amendment somehow was amended - and it would be illegal for you to keep them?


I think at that point, I wouldn't have any loyalty to the US government and would have no qualms about committing treason. There comes a point where you think "enough is enough" and decide to either rebel against or conform to the status quo of how things are.


What is interesting about your post (apart from the ITG-ness) is that it's an admission that your position is not about 'rights', the Constitution, or whether or not it's even a good idea (like, for safety, etc) - but is entirely about selfish ideology.

I actually have more respect for that position than for most of the pseudo-reasons people dream up.
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Postby Bug Out » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:06 pm

Cameroi wrote:it isn't the logic that guns can be stopped. it is the logic that if there are fewer of them to go around, there is less ease and convenience to killing large numbers of people, because someone wakes up one morning with a wild hair up their ass and a mad on at some group of people or humans in general. or even other life forms for that matter.

for reasons equally incomprehensible to me, it isn't my proposal to simply manufacture fewer of them that is being discussed.
i mean if you want to over throw governments, there are always improvised explosive devices.

and if you want bambi on the dinner table, you really don't need a fully automatic assault weapon. you can do that by any number of other means, such as archery, spears, or even traps.



Please tell me when a fully automatic rifle was used in a mass civilian shooting? I can't think of one. I remember when two people robbed a bank with assault rifles (AK's), but the only death was one of the robbers.

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Postby Chinese Regions » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:10 pm

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Postby Chinese Regions » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:12 pm

Priory Academy USSR wrote:
The Corparation wrote:What if you want go to a different range or have a place to shoot it at your own home?


I'd personally suggest keeping weapons in a local 'armoury', and signing them out before using them for a pre-specified period of time.

Rent a gun like renting a porno.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:13 pm

The Global Proletariat wrote:Obama is coming for your guns. He has always wanted your guns. He waited until his second term to secure a mandate for rule. Now that he has a mandate, and the political winds are shifting, he will come for your guns.

He will start with a nationwide gun buyback. The weak and the lilly-livered will let the government pay them in paper, a currency that will soon be worthless. The strong, such as the retired cops, veterans, and the really nutty, will clasp their guns. Obama will take them, too.

There may be states which may resist the Will of Obama. Their governors may instruct state police officers not to cooperate with Obama’s dictates. They may even go to court to seek an injunction against enforcement until Obama’s dictates are deemed constitutional. Yet the courts are spineless without well-armed citizens. Obama will disarm everyone in those states by declaring martial law, appointing a plenipotentiary for that state, and collecting guns.

There may be militias who oppose Obama’s will. They are well-armed, and have sophisticated and lethal weapons most people cannot access. Obama and his armies have way more firepower, though. Lethal force could be met with lethal force.

Once Obama confiscates all of your weapons, there is no stopping his plan of making the U.S. a U.N. vassal state. All laws in the U.S, including constitutional amendments, will be passed in the General Assembly. Dictatorships like North Korea and Equatorial Guinea will have equal vote to other democracies. Our Security Council seat will be eliminated. Obama will still be the executive, but he will merely be the CEO. His directives will come from a committee of 23 bureaucrats, who interpret the General Assembly’’s mandate.

Agenda 23 will be ruthlessly enforced. Most suburbs will be depopulated, and the displaced will go into large Soviet-style apartment blocks. Work will be for the connected first – all others will live on the generosity of the state. They may wish to rebel against this repressive, un-American lifestyle, but they cannot. They have no guns.


Does this mean the UN will finally be able to fund United Nations Special Crisis Intervention Team STORMWATCH again?
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Postby Benomia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:26 pm

The Global Proletariat wrote:Obama is coming for your guns.
lolwut
He has always wanted your guns.
He doesn't want the kind of gun I have.
He waited until his second term to secure a mandate for rule.

Are you fucking blind? Walk outside, turn on a news channel that isn't FOX.

paper, a currency that will soon be worthless.

We've used paper currency since the 600s. Not the 1600s, the 600s. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.

The strong, such as the retired cops, veterans, and the really nutty, will clasp their guns. Obama will take them, too.

Obama isn't going to take anything, other than maybe a burger from FiveGuys.

Will of Obama
Why is that capitalized?
Obama’s dictates

*Looks outside*
In case you hadn't noticed, the US isn't a despotism, and Obama isn't a despot. He's a president that was elected by popular opinion twice.
Yet the courts are spineless without well-armed citizens.
Mindless propaganda with no basis in fact.

Obama will disarm everyone in those states by declaring martial law, appointing a plenipotentiary for that state, and collecting guns.
Once again, lolwut?

There may be militias who oppose Obama’s will.

Once again, the US isn't a despotism. If Obama goes up to you and tells you to give him your gun, you have every right to say no and curse him off. There's this fun little thing called the Constitution that prevents any official from meaninglessly stealing property.

They are well-armed, and have sophisticated and lethal weapons most people cannot access. Obama and his armies have way more firepower, though. Lethal force could be met with lethal force.

What do you think the government is? It might be corrupt, but the US is a democracy, not an oligarchy.

Once Obama confiscates all of your weapons, there is no stopping his plan of making the U.S. a U.N. vassal state.

The United States cannot be a vassal of the United Nations because, if you haven't noticed, the United Nations is not a nation!

All laws in the U.S, including constitutional amendments, will be passed in the General Assembly.

The US has some pretty good laws.
Dictatorships like North Korea and Equatorial Guinea will have equal vote to other democracies.

That's not grammatically correct, and it is making your point very hard to decipher.
Our Security Council seat will be eliminated.

Yeah, OK. England will totally let that happen.
Obama will still be the executive, but he will merely be the CEO.

You can't have a CEO without a corporation.
His directives will come from a committee of 23 bureaucrats, who interpret the General Assembly’’s mandate.

Where the fuck did you get that idea? Are you high?

Most suburbs will be depopulated, and the displaced will go into large Soviet-style apartment blocks

:rofl:
They may wish to rebel against this repressive, un-American lifestyle, but they cannot. They have no guns.

Because rebelling totally requires guns.



Also, everything you posted here isn't in the slightest possible. Things such as the Constitution and the England won't let anything that you said happen.
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You mean like the white woman who raised him on her own with some help from her white parents?
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:39 pm

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Saruhan wrote:Right after he takes your watermelon and all the white women, sure

You mean like the white woman who raised him on her own with some help from her white parents?

That's why he likes white women.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:41 pm

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Disserbia wrote:You mean like the white woman who raised him on her own with some help from her white parents?

That's why he likes white women.


Michelle is just doing blackface for public relations purposes. *nod nod*.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:50 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:That's why he likes white women.


Michelle is just doing blackface for public relations purposes. *nod nod*.

Exactly.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:50 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That's why he likes white women.


Michelle is just doing blackface for public relations purposes. *nod nod*.


ironically appealing to both african americans and racists....
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